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[Myrmedus]

nitefyre410 wrote...

OrumLeader wrote...

GBJ13 wrote...

I really hope they're smart enough to realize this is a disaster. A year from now, Mass Effect 3 will be "that game with an awful ending." That's how it'll be remembered. When people do polls on the worse ending in video games, it'll win for the next decade.

Ever social media site is dominated by people who dislike the ending. There are nearly 60k people on FB saying they want a new ending. There are less than 1k supporting it.

I had a friend who worked on the Dean campaign. He remembers the day after Iowa when Dean was the butt of so many jokes. He didn't realize what had happened then, but now he realizes what just happened.

After Blizzard just punked Bioware on April 1st, you think they'd realize they had to change ship. What tends to happen in these things is that people involved bunker down, turn critics into enemies, and watch themselves implode.

I could be wrong, but it's harder to doubt.

I tend to agree.  I think they are going down with the ship.  I just watched Stanly Woo lock a thread because someone posted the same pic to the twitter feed posted a few post before this one.  The thread was title something along the lines of "its going to be tough at pax" - a few seconds after it was locked it was gone.   I wonder how long this thread will stay unlocked.

 

Unless something amazing happen and some divine change of heart and mind. This may be  Bioware's death spiral. They are going down with ship when there is no need for the ship the go  down. The only reason that they are damning themselves is stupid foolish, stubborn, aggorance and pride.  

This is make or break and a defining moment for the company IMO.

It'll take alot of guts (or as Vega would say: cojones!) to admit to a mistake on this one. Just like with any piece of work it can be hard to sit back and say "Ok, I screwed up." If you've put your heart and mind into something only for it to come out like this it can be hard to accept and therefore you bunker down.

But, if BW do the right thing, and don't take the easy path - yes, Jedi, the right path is not always the easy path - then I think they will actually get a great deal of respect. Of course, there will be some ****s who berate them for being "******", that they succumbed to the fans, that they let us dictate to them etc. as though somehow this is a war. Those are the people to ignore, not us.

If they do the easy thing and just sit on it and let it roll...I don't know. I won't go as far as to say they're doomed, I think that's total hyperbole. I do, however, think it will have a big impact in the long run though.

[ShepnTali]

All 50 people on the planet that adore the ending can rest easy.

[Tiax Rules All]

I dont want the "ending" changed.

I want them to release the rest of it so I can finally conclude the series.

[Myrmedus]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont want the "ending" changed.

I want them to release the rest of it so I can finally conclude the series.

...Meh.

I thought you were originally against the IDT anyway? xD

[Mev186]

I took it as "We're going to release a DLC that changes the ending, If you don't want it changed, you don't have to download it"

[Animositisomina]

People seem to often overlook the fact that @masseffect has a "verified profile" icon, which means it has been officially confirmed as legitimate.

Modifié par Animositisomina, 03 avril 2012 - 10:21 .

[ediskrad327]

both options suck, but i would much rather indoc

[BECC4]

Haven't we already had this nonsense with twitter? Didn't they say that the people replying to the twitter feeds essentially knew nothing and we told what they could and couldn't respond to? Not that I think for a minute there will be a re-write but really wouldn't take twitter as a reliable resource.

I'm thinking what we will get, if anything, will be an extension of some sort and if we want it we will have to pay, the shameless advert at the end makes that pretty clear. That's the ways games are going though, I hate the concept of payong for DLC but if I'm honest I'd prob pay for it. If however they don't make some sort of ending DLC then I definitely will not be putting anymore money into this game.

[Iakus]

zartan88 wrote...

I have to admit that I did like the ending as is (played all three!) however, I feel the best way to cater for everyone is to add another choice at the end so everybody is happy.

I (speaking for myself) would not want the endings changed - my Paragon Shep died the hero he always was!

And my Paragon Shep died alone and in pain, doomed to break Ash's heart yet again.

[Blackmind1]

 I'd prefer it if they explained them, rather than changed. I liked the ideas behind the Catalyst, I just wish we got more answers.

[Corey1097]

Wow.

[Gerudan]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Unless something amazing happen and some divine change of heart and mind. This may be Bioware's death spiral. They are going down with ship when there is no need for the ship the go down. The only reason that they are damning themselves is stupid foolish, stubborn, aggorance and pride.

It is a shame really. Some parts of ME3 really showed, how much talent and experience they can muster, if they want too, but they are about to throw it away.

[Darthbill52]

Saberchic wrote...

Turran wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Well, strictly speaking. The ending need not be changed. It can remain, as an ending.

JUST NOT *THE* ENDING.

This.

I would be happy with the current ending if it was explained (In nice, full detail), answered questions and showed an ending scene which reflected my decisions throughout the games.


Honestly, I just want it to make sense, answer everything and show my choices. 

I feel the exact same way.

There's no replay value whatsoever, too many plot holes, and no closure. Bioware said they weren't going to shoe-horn us into one ending, that our choices mattered and we'd see the effects of them, and that they wouldn't leave us with more questions than answers like Lost. I just want them to live up to their word.

A continuation of what follows our actions isn't too much to ask for.

I agree I went through mass effect 3 excited for a story.    It was full of plot holes and shoe horning, claiming its "art: and taking the Snob route, is crazy.  I like many of us want story not art.   Its a trillogy story arc.. 3 part of a trilogy means tieing things up to end.. not toss the book out the window and make the story up as we go along.   

My biggest gripe is lack of choice and an ending that made the story sundae come out with a giant turd on top than a cherry.   ME1 had high replay and ME2 even before the DLC made you want to play it again .  ME3 made me sick, it was like they delayed six months and gave us this. It makes you wonder.   I am not much of a RTS guy but when starcraft II came out, I played it and it was awesome.  That took Blizzard awhile but it was a respectable single player experence which did leave some questions but overall you wanted to play again or view a cutscene.    ME3 I felt sick, turned my system off and left .. hoping it was a bad dream.   Its apples and oranges i know but if they want to keep the art snobs happy, good for them.  

Modifié par Darthbill52, 03 avril 2012 - 10:32 .

[Chuvvy]

squee365 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...



Not sure if it's been posted in the thread, but there's your source.

Also: https://twitter.com/...278525194186752 Its a very real tweet.

When I made a thread about this Stanley quickly locked it as "spam". I laughed heartily.

Modifié par Slidell505, 03 avril 2012 - 10:25 .

[Tiax Rules All]

Myrmedus wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont want the "ending" changed.

I want them to release the rest of it so I can finally conclude the series.

...Meh.

I thought you were originally against the IDT anyway? xD

Def never was against. just can admit that its not yet confirmed. I want IDT

[Sabrestrikealpha]

Disciple888 wrote...

guise didn't u know? ME3 is the new stanford-binet. if you like the endings, you qualify for MENSA and law school!

I'm in law school. If I wrote a brief that ended with as non-sensically as ME3, I'd be sued for malpractice.

[pistolols]

Blackmind1 wrote...

 I'd prefer it if they explained them, rather than changed. I liked the ideas behind the Catalyst, I just wish we got more answers.

Agreed, i want some dialogue options with the catalyst.

For me this is great news.  I loved the ending.. thought it tied the theme of sentient synthetic life together quite well.

[MakeMineMako]

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

You lost credibility in my mind with your little slurs toward the Tea Party, of which you don't know jack sh*t about.

The second part of your post gives you away as a troll.

[Fonz99]

If there is no *NEW* endings then the existing ones should be ‘Altered’ a little.

 
The worst flaw in their whole plan is the destruction of the relays, because it kills all hope for lovers of the series for any spin offs or further story telling. Not to mention the victory fleet is now stranded in the sol system.
 
Quick notes;
Ending A – Controlling the Reapers

In this ending Shepard has controlled the reapers at his own sacrifice, the destruction of the citadel and the relays is ridiculous in this ending. It’s essentially Shepard uploading his consciousness into the crucible and therefore assuming direct control of the reapers, sending them back to dark space. There is no transfusion of energy through relays but a transmission of signal to the reapers in other solar systems.


Ending B – Destroying the Reapers / Artificial Life

If this is an Energy explosion that is meant to be some kind of electromagnetic devastation then let’s face it, it would effect everything, every ship in orbit has suddenly become large coffins, that would inevitably be drawn towards Earths gravitational pull, that’s the Ascension, the Dreadnaughts the Reapers are all going to be crashing on Earth sooner or later.

There is two options I could accept here,

First is the one Bioware have gone with, the destruction of the Citadel and Relays this makes sense if this is an electromagnetic pulse, but it does create an catastrophic apocalyptic situation. Meaning this is a horrible ending and the one which we all thought we were fighting for. Nether-the-less if the options on the table then at least show us the consequence of the action. The World going dark, the relays and citadel don’t really need to explode but just go dark, relays stop spinning.
 
Second option in this scenario could be that this pulse destroys AI only (don’t know how but anyway) if this is the case there is once again no need to destroy the Citadel or Relays. You could have the pulse blow through Shepard destroying what AI was inside him when Cerberus put him back together. Then shoot through all AI Geth/Reapers/EDI.

Ending C – Synthesis

I still find this absurd by the way and I’m struggling with the comprehension of this ending. But anyway, how does this destroy the Relays, if anything it should just give the relays a mind of their own. Shooting you halfway across the galaxy as a joke.
 
If the destruction of the relays remains in this series then I guess I’m lucky I enjoy the multiplayer
 
 

Modifié par Fonz99, 03 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

killnoob wrote...

looks like Bioware is still living in the delusion that "people love the ending of ME3"...

The paid off reviewers loved it. But what really got me is the trolling the fanbase comments Jeff Gerstmann made, here's a guy who got fired from gamespot for not giving Kane and Lynch a good review after Eidos paid for heavy adverts for the game on gamespot. Where is he now? Back at gamespot after Giantbomb sold out to gamespot's parent company. Lots of intergrity that guy has.

[xdognatex]

 Im so worried that they change the ending to something good, OH NOZZZZZZ

[sp0ck 06]

Sounds good to me. There no way...no way..they're retconning the endings. I'm sorry, but its a pipe dream, and would set a horrible precedent. If they just build on whats there, I'm fine with that. Better than nothing.

[Ibecomedeath]

razor150 wrote...

Bioware to it's fans "We're polishing that turd till it shines!"

"Polish a turd, it's still a turd!" Gotta love Peanut (Jeff Dunham)...

[LastFadingSmile]

Mev186 wrote...

I took it as "We're going to release a DLC that changes the ending, If you don't want it changed, you don't have to download it"

The optimist in me thought the same thing.

The pessimist in me thinks "Bwaahahahahaha you idiot."

Edit: to be clear, it says that about me. Not you.

Modifié par Kolotosa, 03 avril 2012 - 10:42 .

[Rafe34]

MakeMineMako wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

You lost credibility in my mind with your little slurs toward the Tea Party, of which you don't know jack sh*t about.

The second part of your post gives you away as a troll.

Lol? While the person in question is being very condescending, including flat out misleading, like saying that most aren't on board with Retake when all the evidence says otherwise, the phrase, "your little tea party" is a simple cliche and has nothing to do with the Tea Party as a political movement.

Modifié par Rafe34, 03 avril 2012 - 10:44 .