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[slramsey86]

 

[slramsey86]

Biotic detonations with shockwave,charge,and pull are sweet!

[wirelesstkd]

I just started playing with a build like this. It's only my second playthrough, but you're right (and I haven't even recruited Javik yet, lol). Just me as a Vanguard plus Liara means I never have to fire a gun. I'm thinking of switching it up just I CAN actually shoot something, lol...

[Disciple888]

Vanguard is hilariously OP. I'm happy that it is tho. I think of it as a reward for the steep learning curve of ME2.

[wirelesstkd]

Disciple888 wrote...

Vanguard is hilariously OP. I'm happy that it is tho. I think of it as a reward for the steep learning curve of ME2.

Then I should feel guilty. I played Vanguard in ME2 but gave up after only a mission or two. Thank god that ME3 let me import my Sentinal and switch his class to a Vanguard

[Disciple888]

Canon Shep should've been a Vanguard in all 3 games! (ME1 Biotic God w/ Adrenaline Rush; ME2 Teleporting Berzerker with Claymore; ME3 A Great Wind)

[Bebuse]

Disciple888 wrote...

Canon Shep should've been a Vanguard in all 3 games! (ME1 Biotic God w/ Adrenaline Rush; ME2 Teleporting Berzerker with Claymore; ME3 A Great Wind)

I have always imagined Shepard as a Vanguard as default. Or a very, very aggressively played 'other' class (adrenaline rush to charge in, cloak and shotgun, etc).

Why? When you hear people talking about Shepard's fighting skills: 

"damn Tali, you said your captain was good"
"I have a good vantage point up here... you, you do what you do best"

I just can't imagine somebody hiding behind a box playing shoot-a-mole with enemies doing the same at the other end of a room, I imagine somebody scaring the crap out of enemies by getting in their faces and messing up their day, breaking their practiced formations and always attacking.

Modifié par Bebuse, 11 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[slramsey86]

Vanguard owns...i wish I could get barrier but Kaiden died in my playthrough

[godlike13]

Tell me about it. I want Reave, that power is ridiculous in MP, but i don't have a save where Kaiden lives. He was sooo annoying.

[zambingo]

If you are playing ME3 and lack Kaidan or Ash and want to unlock their powers... start a default new game.

Afterthought: Vanguards are all flavors of radsauce. +1 to the OP build idea.

Also if you have kids that are old enough to play ME3 and you want Kaidan or Ash's powers etc... hype up how awesome the default new game Shepard is... this Shepard is a loner that kicks butt and yet is so bad ass doesn't even take names (considering default Shep doesn't even recruit several squadmates in ME2). I did this with my 13 yo son. LOL So he unlocked Ash's powers for me. LOL

Modifié par zambingo, 13 avril 2012 - 06:13 .

[Romudeth]

I started a Vanguard playthrough and I went in thinking that I needed to use a lot of biotic combos to succeed (this was based on what I've read). Turns out that isn't the case. My strategy has been pretty simple. Biotic charge + shotgun to the face. Rinse and repeat until all enemies are dead.

The Vanguard is insanely OP. I swear that I'm finishing combat missions half as fast as I did as a Soldier or Adept. Yes, I COULD set up biotic combos if I wanted to but so far I haven't seen the need to since I'm basically a one man army. My squad mates seem to be there mostly for moral support lol

It's good fun though. I love it.

Since we're talking about Vanguards here. Can anybody list what equipment and armor they'd recommend for this class?

For weapons I mostly use the Evisceratior and keep the Shuriken as a standby. Both have incendiary rounds. Both of these weapons allow me to have 200% recharge. My bonus power is energy drain since the Vanguard has no real way of dealing with shields. For armor I've been mixing it up and putting pieces that make my powers stronger/cool down faster but also some pieces that make my weapons stronger since I rely on my shotgun a lot.

Modifié par Romudeth, 14 avril 2012 - 01:11 .

[spacehamsterZH]

The moment I realized that you can Warp-detonate Dark Channel a very evil cackle was heard in my house.

Vanguard is totally OP in ME3 and so's Liara (Stasis freaking stops Phantoms with full barriers, it's ridiculous), but... it's fun.

[TRISTAN WERBE]

Mass effect is gay

[VarrenSoldier]

TRISTAN WERBE wrote...

Mass effect is gay

Says a man who plays and likes Mass Effect.
Anyway, Vanguard+Liara+Javik is pretty badass. Biotic charge detonations are quite good also.
Charge, create a explosion, then kill a bunch of guys with your shotgun.

[samb]

No to liara in a vangaurd team. Let me clarify, you shoul only have Liara on your squad if you killed off Kaiden.
Kaiden has radius reave, which hits more targets than stasis bubble.
Dark Channel can be taken as a bonus power later on. All vanguards should take it.

My Vangaurd dream team is: Shepp with max'd DC, Javik with max'd DC, Kaiden with max'd and radius reave.
Step 1) DC 2 targets with shepp and Javik. The two targets should be close together.
Step 2) Charge and detonate one or both of them (if you have radius charge).
Step 3) Open power wheel to pause the game and survey the battlefield and select where you want Kaiden to use area reave.
Step 4) Nova. Or if you need better positioning, nova cancel into a spot that will hit the most targets that are reaved and then nova.
Step 5) Watch things die.
No bullets fired.

[godlike13]

Liara > Kaiden. Sure Kaiden has radius Reave, but Liara has Stasis (which is just an incredibly useful all round crowd controlling power), Warp (which sets up and detonates while increasing biotic detonations damage and radius done with it by 50%, and can also increase damage taken by target 15% and weaken armor by 25%. This is one u want to be using on armored enemies like Brutes and Banshees), Singularity (low cool down), and can reduce ur power time by 10%.
And Reave can be taken as a bonus power if u got it, which can be just as good if not better than Dark Channel for a Vanguard. Setting up and detonating, while giving u damage protection.

Modifié par godlike13, 14 avril 2012 - 02:34 .

[samb]

godlike13 wrote...

Liara > Kaiden. Sure Kaiden has radius Reave, but Liara has Stasis (which is just an incredibly useful all round crowd controlling power), Warp (which sets up and detonates while increasing biotic detonations damage and radius done with it, and it can increase damage taken by 15% and weaken armor by 25%), Singularity (low cool down), and can reduce ur power time by 10%.
And Reave can be taken as a bonus power if u got it, which can be just as good if not better than Dark Channel for a Vanguard. Setting up and detonating, while giving u damage protection.

Not too sure about stasis>reave.  Stasis has a pretty long cooldown, and NPCs don't have anyway to cut that lower like we can.For some reason, I feel reave always hits more peple, more consistently than stasis.

A vangaurd doesn't need damage reduction.  Charge refreshes you shields.  DC jumps to another target, negating the need to wait for cooldowns and targeting.  It doesn't go away after detonation either, making it just plain better than reave.  Only take reave as your bonus power if you don't have Javik.

[godlike13]

Stasis has crowd controlling properties that Reave just does not have. Its not necessarily > Reave but combined with Warp, singularity, and her passive squad bonus makes Liara a better squadmate. Kadian does have over lord and passive the will increas biotic damage though i will give him that.

DC jumps to another target thats close, yes, but if u use Area Reave right u already got multiple targets primed and hurting. It also gives u the option of not only setting up but detonating too, and gives u the added bonus of damage reduction which is always just helpful. It doesn't go away after detonation either, it'll still be doing its damage. Reave just gives u way more flexibly, and if ur also taking Javik u still got DC available.

Modifié par godlike13, 14 avril 2012 - 03:18 .

[Kronner]

For my money, Liara, Javik, and Kaidan are the top3 squadmates in the game.

[Abraham_uk]

Anyone who feels that adding Reave covers an area of weakness in the Vanguard is forgetting that CHARGE is a much better version of warp.

It teleports you and does damage to the enemy. What works well for this class is an ability that takes care of those pesky shields. Energy Drain works well for this.

[Disciple888]

Liara is better, because with her 100% Singularity cool-down passive, Singularity becomes available right after Charge-Nova. Allowing you to Singularity-Charge (explosions!)-Nova-Singularity-Nova (explosions!)-Charge, etc. Javik is second, with Dark Channel's leaping ability. Kaiden's Reave is nonsense. Cd is way too long, coming in at ~8.8s IIRC, and doesn't allow you to chain endless biotic explosion loops like Liara. Liara's Stasis/Warp cools down faster too, for when you need to take down enemies with protections.

Modifié par Disciple888, 14 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[sigmaphi]

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Modifié par sigmaphi, 14 avril 2012 - 09:55 .

[incinerator950]

I did three and 3/4 Insanity runs (last one was cancelled do to boredom, Sentinel was a joke), and for Liara I never bothered with her stasis.

That said, Kaidan definitely proved more useful. Reave and multi-Overload with a Particle Rifle/Paladin? Pfft

[yarpenthemad21]

vanguard shepard with reave + javik and his dark channel + liara and her warp/stasis/singularity = biotic detonation for everyone.