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[KroganSmash]

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

[marshalleck]

KroganSmash wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

The less talented are already disadvantaged--all this system would do is not burden everyone else with them. 

[TexasToast712]

 Honestly haven't seen a single AFK'er in my whole time of playing MP.

[Creston918]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing? I think, that come wave 6, if you do not have a certain amount of kills or assists, you should automatically be ejected. Then, even if your score was low, the game would at least recognize that you're contributing.

That'd be hard on the surviving 3 guys on Silver/Gold. Obviously not with a leech, but if they're playing with a guy who's not as good, yet does a lot of support work (capping stuff, rezzing, watching the flank), suddenly they're screwed.

Here's the thing : Leechers only do it for the credits. So how do you get them to stop doing it? By finding a way to identify them (thresholding works best), then NOT giving them ANY credits. The leeches will disappear in a week if Bioware implemented this.

of course, that's assuming Bioware gives a rat's ass about leechers, which they obviously don't.

[TexasToast712]

marshalleck wrote...

KroganSmash wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

The less talented are already disadvantaged--all this system would do is not burden everyone else with them. 

Elitism at it's finest. Yea, don't deny it. This is a team game. Everyone on the team should be rewarded.

[The_N7]

marshalleck wrote...

KroganSmash wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

The less talented are already disadvantaged--all this system would do is not burden everyone else with them. 

Sounds like a CoD player...

[Wang Lightning]

Before yesterday I'd never encountered a single AFKer.

Out of my last six matches since last night, 4 have had at least 1 leecher, and the most recent one had two players with under 2000 points on gold.
Basically two guys just sat in cover, occasionally firing a shot when they got bored and getting killed over and over.

[marshalleck]

TexasToast712 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

KroganSmash wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

The less talented are already disadvantaged--all this system would do is not burden everyone else with them. 

Elitism at it's finest. Yea, don't deny it. This is a team game. Everyone on the team should be rewarded.

I don't deny it. Why would I? Yes, it's a team game and I expect a high standard from other players, the same I expect of myself. I strive to not suck, and waste other people's time. Oh, how shameful! 

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 avril 2012 - 01:32 .

[TexasToast712]

marshalleck wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

KroganSmash wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...

worst score at the end of the mission gets nothing. That's my solution.

Not an ideal soluion. What if someone just doesn't know what they're doing?

Then they have a reason to learn. 

Thats rather ignorant nor a good solution. Neither is distributing points based on performance. All that does is promote elitism and leave those less talented at a disadvantage..

The less talented are already disadvantaged--all this system would do is not burden everyone else with them. 

Elitism at it's finest. Yea, don't deny it. This is a team game. Everyone on the team should be rewarded.

I don't deny it. Why would I? Yes, it's a team game and I expect a high standard from other players, the same I expect of myself. I strive to not suck, and waste other people's time. Oh, how shameful! 

Wanting to better yourself is a good quality. Being a dick about it and expecting everyone else to be up to your standards isn't.

[Hyunsai]

Yeah, if one leave, the third gets nothing, if another leave, the second gets nothing.

Brillant. Everybody will just do it solo. A luck we still have developpers with common sense.

[keginkc]

I probably looked like the worst potential leecher ever earlier. Took my level 1 sentinel into a bronze lobby, checked my gear to see where it was at as I hadn't played the class for over a week, came back and readied, then noticed I had 2 kick votes. Wondering wtf was going on, I then noticed it was a gold lobby, as the third individual booted me. I felt bad. But I wasn't even trying to queue gold.

[Painis Cupcake]

TexasToast712 wrote...
Wanting to better yourself is a good quality. Being a dick about it and expecting everyone else to be up to your standards isn't.

This.

[NordoCeltic]

Yah I end up with a lecher in just about every single game on silver. The rate appears to be about 3 out of 5 games have somebody leeching.  The muliplayer was the saving grace of this game, but with no enforcement for cheating the experience is being completely ruined.

Modifié par NordoCeltic, 04 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[marshalleck]

The_N7 wrote...

Sounds like a CoD player...

Never played CoD in my life. 

[vinlandhammer]

elistim and kill stealings....... this isn't CoD , theres no K/D ratio, kill or assist you get xp anyway. what matters is how good does the team, but so often it ends on partial extraction because some CoD kid is nowhere near making kills and time is running out.... -____-

to solve leechers

- idle kick time
- no credits or xp

i believe in some cases if you're dead during the wave you may miss some credits (case of objectives) so if someone is just leeching its easy to brought attention to the spot and let him/her to die wich is well deserved.

[Lambda Diamond]

There should be auto AFK kicker.

[Painis Cupcake]

Lambda Diamond wrote...

There should be auto AFK kicker.

Then AFKers would tune back in to make an action every couple minutes, problem still unsolved.

[The_N7]

marshalleck wrote...

The_N7 wrote...

Sounds like a CoD player...

Never played CoD in my life. 

Note the SOUNDS part of my comment. 
Please, develop literacy and social skills. 

[draconian139]

In terms of the lowest score not getting credits:this is absolutely stupid. For one thing my squad usually has a player dedicated to a flank that doesn't get as much action. Whoever's doing it for that game always has the lowest by a bit but it has nothing to do with skill/leeching. That player is covering us and its extremely helpful and useful. It would be completely unfair to not just that player but the entire team if this behavior was punished as noone would want to do it.

The second problem is the horrible behavior that will be encouraged. People will suddenly be actively encouraged to kill steal, intentionally get in the way of a sniper's shot, leave when they're behind the other players by a good bit, leave teammates to bleed out, and farm points instead of going for objectives.

Its the worst idea ever.

[keginkc]

draconian139 wrote...

In terms of the lowest score not getting credits:this is absolutely stupid. For one thing my squad usually has a player dedicated to a flank that doesn't get as much action. Whoever's doing it for that game always has the lowest by a bit but it has nothing to do with skill/leeching. That player is covering us and its extremely helpful and useful. It would be completely unfair to not just that player but the entire team if this behavior was punished as noone would want to do it.

Speaking as the guy who generally fills that role, I agree wtih this logic.

[Blest HR]

simple answer quit the game if you all leave they get nothing

[PsychoticBiotic]

Blest HR wrote...

simple answer quit the game if you all leave they get nothing

The thing is, they will always find a group who aren't smart enough to do this / don't care. This may hinder them, but it does not solve the issue.

[Blest HR]

it does if every 1 does it. I always just leave if i find people like that better then wasting my time in the game

[Neurion19]

Ap BigKat on XBOX. Avoid this leecher and kick him,

[WanabeSpiderMan]

Yeah, I noticed today on several matches on Xbox that I had leechers camping out AFK. Really pissed me off yet I could do nothing about it. I REALLY wanted to boot them.