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[M0keys]

bumpity bump!

keep posting your comments, dear readers!

Modifié par M0keys, 15 avril 2012 - 02:29 .

[M0keys]

Sparrows wrote...

Just got to the Miracle Man ending, but I have to say, I love how sassy Renegade!Shepard is! Not sure that's the right word.... flippant? cocky? Either way, it's amazing and it makes me laugh.

Grub really enjoyed writing the renegade Shep lines, and I think he's probably watched a couple of the "Renegade Shepard is a Jerk" videos too.

[UrdnotGrunty2]

YES! Let's reject Bioware's endings and take our own and leave Bioware

[M0keys]

UrdnotGrunty2 wrote...

YES! Let's reject Bioware's endings and take our own and leave Bioware

Hah, if you like. I'm at least willing to stick around and sees what happens with the EC. I pretty much have no expectations at this point, so I'm not hyped up about it. Just curious to see how much Bioware actually respects their paying customers in the end (and I do believe that if they mess up the EC, it is absolutely the point of no return.)

[M0keys]

boards are really rocketing right now O_o

[M0keys]

one more sad little bump for the People

[jedsithor]

M0keys wrote...


yeah it's not what I'd call scientifically sound. I agree there. and I guess if you had Chris L'Etoile working on it too, it'd be more technical, but.. I dunno *shrug*

It seems to me like he was focusing more on characters than anything? Ultimately in the end that your space buddies and the emotions you'd feel were more important than what tactics? That's just my opinion though.

If you have any suggestions that would make it more solid in terms of canon details, I'd be more than happy to pass them along and have him see what he can swing. the endings aren't carved in stone :

Well I actually wrote an alternate Paragon ending that pretty much kept the original versions of the three choices but then added a forth when Shepard convinced The Reapers (Starchild gets replaced pretty quickly) that they were no longer necessary. But I couldn't just have them leave only to come back in a hundred years, having changed their mind and a straight up battle wouldn't have worked because of the Reapers elsewhere in the galaxy.

So what I did was create a scenario where Shepard spoke to three Reapers, each represented by holographic projections of the species they had come from before being turned into Reapers. I called them Chronicle, Order and then you had Harbinger. They were the first Reapers. The fourth would have been Sovereign but obviously he's gone. Shepard makes his case and eventually convinces Chronicle and Order that the Reapers should leave. Harbinger though disagrees and for the first time in the history of the Reapers, there is division between them. Harbinger and those who follow him vow to continue the cycle. Chronicle and Order say they won't turn against their own, no matter what.

I did rewrite the original three endings, with "Destroy" being a failsafe to destroy the Relays, dooming galactic civilization, Control being humanity becoming the guardians of the galaxy with help from the Reapers, charged with keeping synthetics from being created and resulting in humanity dominating the galaxy, a rebellion by the alien species and ultimately the extinction of many of those species, with Shepard hailed as a hero on Earth and a tyrant in the rest of the galaxy. Synthesis was rewritten to be the first stage of natural ascension. In essence, the choice the first Reapers made a billion years earlier that would see the galaxy take the first steps towards becoming the next generation of Reapers but on their own terms.

After a little more debating, Chronicle and Order agree to reprogram the Crucible, creating a new, fourth option that's basically reverse Sythensis. Instead of combining synthetic and organic, it separates the two components. The Reapers, being synthetic beings born from organics will literally be torn apart. While the new configuration is targeted at Reapers it also has side effects for others, like anyone with Biotic implants. It could kill them or simply shut down the implants, either way it's a lot of pain.

But it will take time for Chronicle and Order to complete the reconfiguration and Harbinger, knowing full well what they're going to do, is on his way to destroy the Crucible. Only those that support Harbinger's decision will attack the Crucible. The other Reapers will stay back, not attacking the fleet or Harbinger. What this allowed me to do was have a situation where the fleet could engage Harbinger's forces, a formiddable but still smaller force than the entire Reaper armada. I also had the Normandy crew on Earth evacuating injured Hammer troops to the FOC with the LI trying to reach the beam to get to Shepard.

While the story was a full paragon ending, there were various points where EMS and various decisions would come into play. For instance, Harbinger's forces set up a blockade to prevent the fleet from getting to Harbinger. Only the Normandy gets through and takes on Harbinger alone, with Joker deciding overload the drive core and crash the Normandy right into Harbinger as a last resort. Then the Rachni show up, giving the fleet the chance to break through, allowing Joker to veer off and survive. On the ground, Jack and Wrex can show up and whether they do or not will determine what squad members die in the final assault, if any, which in turn helps determine whether or not Shepard lives or dies. Even getting the fourth option relies on uniting the Quarian and the Geth and even with that, if your EMS is too low, Harbinger will destroy the Crucible and the Reapers will continue to harvest the galaxy.

Now I'm not saying that what I did is needed here. My own intent was to find a way to make decisions and EMS count with the fate of everyone depending on what you did in the three games, while allowing for a final confrontation with Harbinger and a potential victory at Earth that would affect Reapers across the galaxy.

[M0keys]

wow

thanks for the massive post!

[WhiteVV1ings]

Amazing job, if only Bioware thought of this.

[shimoyake]

Bumped because this made me feel better for the first time since I beat ME3 way back on March 10.

Thank you and great work. Look forward to the rest of the character resolutions and whatnot.

[M0keys]

thanks for the comments :

keep em comin

[RedTail F22]

HA!! Settles on Palaven with Garrus (Bro Adventures)!! This was one one the best lines lmao. I love it.

Seriously though I love this ending. Extremely well done. It has everything I was expecting out of it so far and more. Cant wait to keep reading these as they're completed.

[adroidmortox]

I enjoyed all of these- "corruption" chilled me to the bones, but my favourite was either 'miracle man' or 'heroes'. I look forward to seeing your character resolutions.

[M0keys]

RedTail F22 & adroidmortox: Grub thanks you for reading!!

[M0keys]

bump

[Gammazero79]

Those were awesome! I'd like to hope Bioware comes up with something at least half as good as that for the extended cut but a sinking feeling in my gut tells me they wont... *sigh

[Creston918]

Looks awesome. Thanks M0keys and Grub!

[M0keys]

And thanks for reading!

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

Do you have any idea on when the epilogues will be finished? =)

[Vox Doom]

I applaud the effort, but the Paragon Shep in this sounds like a wet blanket.

[LKx]

really moving

It's the kind of script i was expecting from bioware

Modifié par LKx, 15 avril 2012 - 12:13 .

[Mad-Hamlet]

Woops, wrong thread.

Modifié par Mad-Hamlet, 15 avril 2012 - 11:47 .

[Aethyl]

Well well well...

It is sort of sad to see that those endings (or at least the two I checked because I think they would suit me the most, "Heroes" and "Miracle Man", will check the other ones later) are actually way betters than the 3 we got, imo.

Those are endings wrote for the fans by a fan, and that's what makes them awesome.

It's really what i was looking for when I was playing this game, with our decisions playing in the output of the war, and a huge attention being brought to our team mates in this last and intense battle.
They wouldn't just flee away like that in 5 minutes, seriously bioware, what happened to you?

Anyway yeah, "Heroes" is really the perfect ending for me, the one I was looking to get, and I guess it will be my canon for now.
"Miracle Man" was good as well, but I didn't feel the same intensity while reading it, so...

A big thank to you OP to make us discover those fan endings, and of course a big thank to the writer, nice work indeed, keep on it!

Modifié par Aethyl, 15 avril 2012 - 12:34 .

[Redshirt-1701]

Well that was certainly better than the crap Bioware came up with. All around an excellent script. Bioware should take notes on how a good ending(s) actually work.

[Redshirt-1701]

I think the heroes ending will become my new canon ending.