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[Sesshaku]

Poetry, written by Stephenie Meyer with collaboration of Justin Bieber (who made it a song and a music video where he plays as starchild).


Kids, don't buy drugs, you'll end saying what OP says and think that nonsense made it poetry and art. I guess he must read like 10 books of poetry a year.

[Zarathustra666]

Three-colored poetry.

[Fliprot]

The Angry One wrote...

I'll grant that it's poetry.
Poetry written by this guy:

But.. I liked his poetry...

[Ridwan]

So the pro-enders like the ending cause it's artistic and call us whining entitles brats. But when asked to explain the ending, they got nothing for us?

[Ridwan]

AtlasMickey wrote...

OP, you have my support.

Your sig and the ending is an oxymoron.

[clarkusdarkus]

i respectfully disagree with everything you say

[CrazyRah]

The Angry One wrote...

I'll grant that it's poetry.
Poetry written by this guy:

Now here we got a person that knows how to write poetry! 

[Wowlock]

You have the right to speak your opinion, I respect that.

Just please do no insult REAL Art with that BS ending......please. All the great artists in the past are turning backwards on their graves....

PS : Video Games does not meant to be played FOR Art....they are played for ENJOYMENT .

[EricHVela]

Dr. Seuss is poetry, too. 'maggie millie molly and may' is a poem as well.

The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner is poetry as well. That one's epic (if a bit boring). Shakespeare is also poetry. (Taming of the Shrew is hilarious if done by the right crew.)

The ME3 endings are less than the caliber of the former examples. I do not understand how anyone could equate it to the latter examples.

[Renew81]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...
Mass Effect 3 is a masterpiece as is. Change whatever you want if management so decrees, but this is the true, beautiful and fitting ending to Mass Effect.

Thats your opinion , i believe the ending is not fitting to mass effect at all its actually the biggest
problem with the ending it doesnt fit within the rest of the series.

[apieros]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...
I don't know what game those people who whine and hate and send cupcakes played.

Why is it impossible for most of those who love the endings, to say so without being jackasses towards the rest of us?

(Other than that one guy with the Joker pic. He's reasonable and polite.)

As far as the "perfect, pure poetry that touched me to the depths of my sensitive, intelligent soul":



You're just wrong about that.

Modifié par apieros, 04 avril 2012 - 01:36 .

[AcesRedd]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

 I kept reading the most terrible things. The entirety of the game had me engaged like none before it and I've been playing for a very, very long time. I thought it could not be possible for the ending to be amiss.

I don't know what game those people who whine and hate and send cupcakes played.

In my game, the entire finale sequence was pure, intense poetry.

Thank you so much for bringing art into the 12 year old ridden medium of video games.

Mass Effect 3 is a masterpiece as is. Change whatever you want if management so decrees, but this is the true, beautiful and fitting ending to Mass Effect.

Peace.

[withneelandi]

John Keats - Ode to a nightingale
http://www.poetryfou...org/poem/173744
Poetry. The Skillfull combination of word, rhyme, strcture, imagery and rythm.

The end of Mass Effect 3 - Art? Poetry?

I don't see the art, and I don't see the poetic quality, I saw a bit of badly thought out pseudo intelectual sci-fi writing, which contradicted earlier plot points and only works as art if the purpose was to convey a sense of hopelessness and shocking disapointment to the player.

If IT is correct, then the end was a brave narrative experiment ruined by vague execution.

Honestly if I could see the ending of mass effect 3 as art I'd be the guy fighting biowares corner on this one, before I played the end I was naturally inclined to side with bioware on the artistic integrity argument, then I watched the end and saw no art.

I saw a lazy end to a story, which reeked of a rushed conclusion and desire to give an easy jump of point for continuation of the story. Put simply, I think the ending had one motivation, end the story in such a way as the person writing the next part has to concider as little variety as possible in possible imported history.

The post credit scene where the credibility of the narrator is called into question makes that even easier. Again, I don't see art, I see lazy or rushed writing.

[pawswithclaws]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...
In my game, the entire finale sequence was pure, intense poetry.

Peace.

red, blue, springtime-green 
which one do you like the most?
this one is diff'rent

Modifié par pawswithclaws, 04 avril 2012 - 01:53 .

[Laurencio]

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

I thought the same way. Until the plot holes, serious ones, even in the Synthesis justification, brought it down. I'd avoid this place if you still want to enjoy it.

What he said.

[sean10mm]

Well, paintings could be considered visual poetry, and paintings use colors, and there were 3 color-coded endings to the game, so...

[Sohlito]

Total Biscuit wrote...

I'm glad some people like it. I mean out of the million or so people that finished the game, odds are at least some would end up getting exactly what they wanted, and they're lucky.

It's just a terrible shame Bioware made it for this tiny minority, while giving the vast majority of us an ending that has nothing redeeming in it apart from Andersons death speech, and even that was cut down and not as good as it could have been, and shouldn't have been a railroaded forced outcome anyway.

Scorpius understands.

Also, did no one notice "borracho" in his name? Might explain things.

[StarcloudSWG]

You're right. Bad poetry is still poetry.

Even if it gets you thrown out of the reading and told not to come back, ever.

[kegNeggs]

ok:

[...]
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. (R. Frost - The Road Not Taken)

This is poetry.

"yo dawg I heard you don't want to be killed by synthetics [...]"

This is not poetry.

In fact, Ashley Williams even recites a bit of poetry in ME3.

it wasnt the ending part.

Modifié par kegNeggs, 04 avril 2012 - 02:19 .

[ambroseaz]

withneelandi wrote...

John Keats - Ode to a nightingale
http://www.poetryfou...org/poem/173744
Poetry. The Skillfull combination of word, rhyme, strcture, imagery and rythm.

The end of Mass Effect 3 - Art? Poetry?

I don't see the art, and I don't see the poetic quality, I saw a bit of badly thought out pseudo intelectual sci-fi writing, which contradicted earlier plot points and only works as art if the purpose was to convey a sense of hopelessness and shocking disapointment to the player.

If IT is correct, then the end was a brave narrative experiment ruined by vague execution.

Honestly if I could see the ending of mass effect 3 as art I'd be the guy fighting biowares corner on this one, before I played the end I was naturally inclined to side with bioware on the artistic integrity argument, then I watched the end and saw no art.

I saw a lazy end to a story, which reeked of a rushed conclusion and desire to give an easy jump of point for continuation of the story. Put simply, I think the ending had one motivation, end the story in such a way as the person writing the next part has to concider as little variety as possible in possible imported history.

The post credit scene where the credibility of the narrator is called into question makes that even easier. Again, I don't see art, I see lazy or rushed writing.

exactly!!!

[omntt]

Good for you you liked it. Unfortunately i consider poetry a totally different matter. This was just terrible writing.

[SeefPanda]

OHITHAR.

I enjoyed the ending and for my first Shep, I accept it. I don't support it, believe or feel satisfied with it. But I accept it.

I'm not very intelligent, no moreso than your average Tom, Richard or Harry and so I won't claim to understand it on a deep quantum physics, so I can't explain it who claims to "not get it". I don't think you can "get it".

I recognise the plotholes, I recognise the seemingly careless way everything wrapped up, yet I accept my ending.

Whereas I'd felt incredibly involved all throughout, and I felt the pain of every character lost (Asari Commando/Hillary etc etc), the ending was one of only points through ME2+3 (PS3 gamer) where I felt truly insignificant in a game that depicts a galaxy spanning lightyears. I didn't feel like a juggernaut that sent shockwaves, I felt as though I [Shep] was insignificant.

Do I like that? No. Do I agree with the choices? Nope, personally I would have chosen to wage a war of attrition against the Reapers and would have sacrificed Earth. After all, Javik told me that this kind of allegiance did not happen in his cycle. And if I could take down a Reaper with a small portion of the Quarian fleet, i would have utilised the combined force of every sentient race to shoopdawoop the amassed Reapers and kamehameha'd them on Earth, sarcificing it in the process. Then I'd have proceeded to hunt down every remaining Reaper in the Galaxy, using the Geth as bait. That's what Iwould have done.

But that wasn't a choice that was given to me. I played the cards I was dealt by Bioware, and I accept the ending for what it is, for good or ill.

I understand most near everyone's anger and dislike, and in honesty I can share it.

Do I want a "new" ending? Wouldn't mind, nice for variety.

I'd prefer an animatic prologue though, letting me know how everyone else fared after my choice to control them.

[Swinns]

Wowlock wrote...

You have the right to speak your opinion, I respect that.

Just please do no insult REAL Art with that BS ending......please. All the great artists in the past are turning backwards on their graves....

PS : Video Games does not meant to be played FOR Art....they are played for ENJOYMENT .

Wowlock wrote... 
Video Games does not meant to be played FOR Art....they are played for ENJOYMENT .

They are played for ENJOYMENT .

ENJOYMENT .

This is why I don't like the ending, it takes away all the enjoyment I had, I was depressed for 2 days after finishing. If your not having fun the developer has f******* up.

Modifié par Swinns, 04 avril 2012 - 09:19 .

[frozngecko]

"Don't ****** in my ear and tell me its raining."

Initially, I dismissed the Retake movement because I thought the ending couldn't have been that bad. I've seen the ending, knowing that people hated it...and I came out agreeing with them.

[Borrachofunk69]

I will not argue with any of you. I just wanted the developers to know that some people out there truly understood and enjoyed what they did.

Your waves of hate just prove that BSN should be officially shut down. You call me a troll, because I liked something you didn't and I "wasn't with the program"? I hope you get all the mindless happy ends you desire, because that's what you deserve.