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[Valkyre4]

RT wrote...

Valkyre4 wrote...
You are missing the point, which is: trying to completely change something that is already decided is going to do more damage than good.

You need to decide wether you can accept a Mass Effect created by Bioware with every flaw that it has, or you want an industry where a Valkyre or a "XXX" guy will be creating Mass Effect for you.

And I will say it one more time because I am afraid that it will be lost in translation:

I MYSELF DID NOT LIKE THE ENDING OF THIS GAME.

But like I said I prefer an industry that is strong both in its good decisions and its bad, than ending up with an indusrty where everyone can potentialy create his own version and manipulate the script in ways different than the creators. Some people want an ending where Shepard is on the beach getting wasted with garrus... that is for them the best ending ever...to me though this is disgusting.

I still am waiting to see what Bioware can and will do with regards to explaining what happens. Some of us are very passionate with these games that we consider any sort of explaination impossible. people say that everyone is doomed because they are stranded in Earth or that since ME relays are destroyed the Universe is doomed. Yet many of them forget that Earth has now like thousands of dead Reapers and every single genious in the Universe to study their technology.

I am saying to just wait. it is not like they cant fix the ending if they sufficiently provide explaination to the plotholes that we have now with this rushed thing of an ending. Dont be so negative, I will give them a chance to fix the ending they had in mind. If it sucks, then so be it. Mass Effect will be an epic trilogy with a very poor ending. Thats it, moving on.

If I had the power to fix all that I hate in this life, you bet Mass effect ending will be the last thing to change.

Sorry, but this point of view is... pretty sad, actually. If people won't complain and criticize, they will make the same mistake again and again. And as I said, this endings doesn't hold up as "artistic vision" or some pretentious **** like that, it's not "how somebody sees it", it's just a hastily made badly written mess. And no, no genius in the Universe will study Reaper technology. Because in every single ending everybody dies. As was shown in the Arrival DLC, when the relay blows up, it takes the system with it. And guess what? ALL RELAYS BLOW UP IN EVERY ENDING (that's the plot hole the size of Sovereign I was talking about). 

Please explain exactly where my "sad point of view" states that people should not criticize or complain.... in fact I said that people should complain and should definetely criticize the developer's creation, but to change everything drastically? It is not only pointless but also stupid.

Pointless because no matter the changes you cannot magically "erase" something you have already presented as a finished job. Its like me getting a bad grade at my paper and then going back with the same paper having made changes and ask for a better grade on top of that bad grade...

Stupid is because if everyone wants to have a mass effect tailor made especially for him, then what is the point of the creator? If you know already what you want exactly, what is the point of experiencing it? Just to validate your story is just the way you wanted it?

The story is bad, then the story is bad. Changing the story wont make it any better, not ever. If the story is bad you complain and you hope Bioware gets the memo for any upcoming games, so as not to repeat the same mistakes. So by all means you should criticize and you should complain. But that has nothing to do with demanding a complete change in the storyline's direction.

EDIT: I will say it again, if they manage to fix the ending by providing more details, and explain the stuff that drive me and you crazy because they left them out completely, then the ending wont be as "bad". Dont be certain that this ending cannot be "fixed" ina way to provide better reasoning and closure.

Modifié par Valkyre4, 04 avril 2012 - 02:10 .

[bluewolv1970]

floppypig wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

I somewhat agree, but the problem is they do a complete turn (at least 90 degrees) in terms of story telling. I think if it ended just before the starchild having Shepard push the button and then went into a cut scene showing how the decisions you've made affected the entire galaxy, it would have been a stronger ending. As it stands there isn't really any difference between the three, which is a huge problem for a game series built around big choices and equally big consequences for said choices.

No difference? I think there kinda is. I mean green ending is quite different to blue and red. I know what you're getting at in terms of them being too similar. But, in terms of how they affect the future of the mass effect universe, they are quite diverse. For example, you couldn't make a ME4 that incorporated all the endings. No matter how far into the future it was. You would have to choose a canon ending. Blue doesn't change things too much, red does kind of. and green seriously does. I mean, green changes every person in the universe. 

if you want green ending then maybe they should just patch Mass Effect and you can join Saren and skip the next two games 

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