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Are there any WORSE endings in Sci-FI than ME3's?


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JPR1964 wrote...

elitesalt wrote...

the x-files' was pretty bad


Not so bad, at the end, Mulder is with LI, Scully... At least they found themselves again.... Nice closure... IMO

JPR out!





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Apatche69 wrote...

This movie was awesome. Way better ending too.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet

True, but what does that have to do with bad endings?

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Well you have the X-files and then on top of that you might have Star Trek Enterprise. Altogether its pretty high up there on the disappointing tier

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Kloreep wrote...

Oh yes there are. I think "The Prisoner" can probably count as sci-fi, as long as we're being a little loose with the category. And that is by far the worst ending to a serial story I have ever seen, read, etc. ME3's ending left me confused and upset, sure. The Prisoner's final episode left me in a rage.


The original 60's one? I bloody loved it.

Ok it was utterly nuts and sureal, but so was the whole show, anything else would have been a horrible let down.

Modifié par withneelandi, 04 avril 2012 - 08:49 .


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Worse endings than ME3. Oh yeah. Anyone ever heard of Dracula 3000?

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AquamanOS wrote...

Most of the Final Fantasy games have poor, at least very confusing and vague endings once they became more cinematic ie: 7 and beyond.

7's was completely vague and left everyone hanging for a decade before finally releasing a film that explained what happened. Notably, just about everyone's assumptions turned out to be wrong.

8's was also vague, and to this day people aren't sure if the main character survived or not.

9's actually wraps it up well, as it was designed in the manner of the earlier games.
10's is straight forward, but randomly kills the main character in a scene nobody really saw coming. Though they bring him back in 10-2


FF7 was weird. It was widely assumed at the time they ran out of time and/or money, and just had to ship with what they had, so the ending was half done. But half done is better than being kicked in the cojones.

FF8 was really excellent, I thought. The first few times I played it, it just seemed like your normal happy ending. Hero saves the world, gets the cute girl, it's all good. It wasn't until after I read the "Squall died" theory that I paid any attention to the weird stuff, and you know, it's all very possible. And I think that's what makes it awesome. Both ways of looking at the ending are really just about equally valid. I honestly don't think the dying theory is true, but it fits VERY well.

FF9 was fine. Pretty standard fare, to be honest.

FFX was a really excellent bittersweet ending. It was set up beforehand. You are told multiple times that Tidus is basically just a dream, and that if Sin goes away, he will vanish. And it was done in a very heartwrenching way, because I genuinely felt ****ty for Yuna.
Square Enix's fans absolutely bombarded them with angry letters and cries of outrage, and in response, Square Enix made FFX-2, which was an entire game built around one simple goal "Bring Tidus back to life so he and Yuna can be together."

Strangely enough, gaming survived that entire episode just fine, so all the people who keep crying that "Storytelling in gaming will be forever RUINED if Bioware changes the ending" can kindly just go away now.

I don't think any of those endings disappointed people as much as ME3 did, because unlike ME3, none of them promised you filet Mignon only to deliver a stale crust of bread that a dog had pooped on.

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withneelandi wrote...

The original 60's one? I bloody loved it.

Ok it was utterly nuts and sureal, but so was the whole show, anything else would have been a horrible let down.


The whole show was nuts and surreal, but usually coherent. Like the one where he runs for election - nuts, but in a hilariously pointed way. The final episode is nuts and surreal in a very different, utterly incoherent way. They sing the entirety of "Dry Bones" for goodness sake.

But hey, can't argue with opinion. If you liked that circus, fair enough. Maybe you could be my substitute movie-watcher during the lightshow if I watch 2001 again? ;)

Be seeing you.

Modifié par Kloreep, 04 avril 2012 - 09:11 .


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Not scifi but the ending of Dinosaurs (TV series). Amazing show, then "Oh God Why".

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Battlefield Earth?

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Slash1667 wrote...

I loved the Matrix and thought it ended just fine.

As far as Independence Day, it was the much better remake of War of the Worlds than Tom Cruise's version and a damn good movie at that.

Stargate Atlantis I was really happy with the way it ended. Couple of plot holes but at least they were explained in some way that made sense within the context of the show.

Star Trek 2011? Loved the movie nuff said


Gonna have to disagree there. The ending to War of the Worlds both the book and the remake had a much more realistic and thought provoking ending than ID4. Pretty sure 50's remake also had the same ending, but not sure about the radio version, I never heard it.

ID4  was still good though. So was The Matrix, only the first movie.

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Dune.
Star Trek NG movies (all of them)
Forbidden Planet
Planet of the apes (all of them)
the entire BSG series (the new one, not the old one)
Enterprise (the entire series)
Battlefield Earth (well anything by L Ron Hubbard)

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Cube 2 was pretty damn stupid stupid, but I only invested a hour or so in that so I could let it slide.

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DeeLite808 wrote...

Dune.
Star Trek NG movies (all of them)
Forbidden Planet
Planet of the apes (all of them)
the entire BSG series (the new one, not the old one)
Enterprise (the entire series)
Battlefield Earth (well anything by L Ron Hubbard)

Don't forget about every single Sci-Fi original movie ever made.

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I can only think of the 501st, the Hand of Vader, being beaten to death by a bunch of teddybears with sharp sticks. But even then, that's only barely worse.

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   Star Trek Enterprise was the worse ending for a SciFi series in my opinion, and that sucked so much because it was the only Star Trek I actually really liked. Stargate Atlantis ending was also pretty bad, but I could always go back and watch the entire series again. Mass Effect 3's ending though just sucked the whole series feeling out of me. I'm having a Fallout Marathon instead of importing all of the saves I made for Mass Effect 3.
    If someone told me in February that I would be playing the Fallout games during March and April more than Mass Effect 3 I would have laughed in their faces. So while Mass Effect 3's ending isn't the worse SciFi ending it was the most disappointing.

Modifié par mango smoothie, 04 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


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Creston918 wrote...

FF7 was weird. It was widely assumed at the time they ran out of time and/or money, and just had to ship with what they had, so the ending was half done. But half done is better than being kicked in the cojones.

FF8 was really excellent, I thought. The first few times I played it, it just seemed like your normal happy ending. Hero saves the world, gets the cute girl, it's all good. It wasn't until after I read the "Squall died" theory that I paid any attention to the weird stuff, and you know, it's all very possible. And I think that's what makes it awesome. Both ways of looking at the ending are really just about equally valid. I honestly don't think the dying theory is true, but it fits VERY well.

FF9 was fine. Pretty standard fare, to be honest.

FFX was a really excellent bittersweet ending. It was set up beforehand. You are told multiple times that Tidus is basically just a dream, and that if Sin goes away, he will vanish. And it was done in a very heartwrenching way, because I genuinely felt ****ty for Yuna.
Square Enix's fans absolutely bombarded them with angry letters and cries of outrage, and in response, Square Enix made FFX-2, which was an entire game built around one simple goal "Bring Tidus back to life so he and Yuna can be together."

Strangely enough, gaming survived that entire episode just fine, so all the people who keep crying that "Storytelling in gaming will be forever RUINED if Bioware changes the ending" can kindly just go away now.

I don't think any of those endings disappointed people as much as ME3 did, because unlike ME3, none of them promised you filet Mignon only to deliver a stale crust of bread that a dog had pooped on.


I had never heard a theory that Squall died in FF8. I'd always just assumed he lived, with the ending showing some home movies type deal with him alive with the rest of the party.

I always assumed that the plan to bring back Tidus in FFX-2 was planned from the FF X, because the ending of FFX had a scene, after the credits finished, showing him waking up in the ocean. Then they reused that scene to show the start of him coming back in the sequel.

Now, FFXIII - there was a game with an illogical ending. The last guy tells you it wants you to kill him. Your party says they refuse to do it, because killing him will cause the world to plummet and die. Then.... you get into a fight with the last guy? And he fights you back as if he's trying to kill you instead of letting you kill him? And you kill him anyway? What? Was the person setting up the fights and cinematics not reading the script? No one's actions match up with their statements.

Somehow, that ending is still preferable to, and more moving than, ME 3. I attribute that to the creative imagery involved. Even the pop music somehow fits it well, which normally I would hate.

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Space Runnaway IDEON has a very depresing ending.

It's an anime from the 80's. It's about when humans began to colonize outher space a group of archaeologists had come across the mysterious remains of the Ideon—three large armored trucks with the ability to transform into a godlike mecha with terrifying mass destructive powers. It had 39 tv episodes with 2 original video animation (ova).

Basicly it's all about how two species ( humans and the Buff Clan) fight each other for the powers of the IDEON. The fight scalates with each episode and how the body count keep on rising, as the crew of the IDEON desperate tries to evade the Buff Clan to grab the IDEON and use it for conquering the universe.

Ironicaly, the last episode Be Invoked, at the final minutes of the film, when the universe is destroyed, a Godchild is introduced called the 'Messiah' ( the unborn offspring of a human male and a Buff clan female daughter of the maximum leader of the Buff clan) leading all the spirits of the humans and Buff clans into a new planet to recreate the universe.

http://en.wikipedia....way_Ideon       has more information about the anime.

   IDEON episodes small sumarry (dead count and the destruction of the universe) <_<

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Nope. When I decided that Twilight was better than the ending of Mass Effect 3, it pretty much couldn't get any worse. XD

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aliengmr1 wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

I loved the Matrix and thought it ended just fine.

As far as Independence Day, it was the much better remake of War of the Worlds than Tom Cruise's version and a damn good movie at that.

Stargate Atlantis I was really happy with the way it ended. Couple of plot holes but at least they were explained in some way that made sense within the context of the show.

Star Trek 2011? Loved the movie nuff said


Gonna have to disagree there. The ending to War of the Worlds both the book and the remake had a much more realistic and thought provoking ending than ID4. Pretty sure 50's remake also had the same ending, but not sure about the radio version, I never heard it.


Agreed. The Tom Cruise movie was actually much better than I thought it would be, although that little girl has to be one of my most hated characters in moives. The ending was pretty much the only part of the story that was the same as the book. Well, that and the ferry scene.

And a real infection killing the aliens makes much more sense than a computer infection. I mean, how would a human-made computer virus even interface with alien software? Most viruses can't even hit Apple OS

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Sorry, can't think of any

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Russmandarin wrote...

Well you have the X-files and then on top of that you might have Star Trek Enterprise. Altogether its pretty high up there on the disappointing tier

Enterprise was a good show (better than voyager), and it was excellent in its last two seasons, but then they completely forgot that a good series finale should be about the main characters and not two guest stars trying to pass themselves off as their younger selves.
THe whole riker/Diana story might have been a little better if it was based just after riker gained captaincy of the titan.

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This one unfortunately found the ending sequence of the Wing Commander movie most regrettable. That is, of course, so long as one considers everything beyond the first minute as 'ending sequence.'

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Return of the Jedi.

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I don't get why everyone always harps on the BSG ending. Besides the Kara Thrace BS, the "god" stuff was pretty much telegraphed from day 1. And then they explicitly say in the ending that it isn't actually "God". I think the ending lacked some elaboration, but fit well enough in terms of character and plot.

However, I do think they should have just left Kara Thrace as dead, or only allowed Lee to see her.

Modifié par blackangel209, 04 avril 2012 - 10:02 .


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Sawtooth357 wrote...

This one unfortunately found the ending sequence of the Wing Commander movie most regrettable. That is, of course, so long as one considers everything beyond the first minute as 'ending sequence.'

To quote the spoony
a bar fight between matthew lillard and saffron burrows, god it would be the boniest, whiteiest fight in history.  Theres barely 200 pounds between them.
maniac; you have a problem with my friend?pilot; yes i domaniac; good because now you have a problem with me.pilot; is that a factmaniac; yes
spoony; watch out, matthew lillard has his back, i bet noone wants a piece of that
angel; if you ladies dont settle down you will have to deal with me
spoony; all 70 pounds of me

Modifié par Apollo-XL5, 04 avril 2012 - 10:03 .