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[Kanner]

It's an awkward question. There aren't many where the story just so blatanly swaps *type* right in the last few moments.

I'm a bit reminded of the movies Sunlight and Event Horizon which start out with the promise of being hard edge science fiction with realish science, and then about half-way through give up all pretense otherwise and carry on as stock standard horror movies. But they do this a lot earlier, they telegraph it, and people who love horror movies with sci-fi overtones love the hell out of them.

It's also different as far as games are concerned, where mostly you're very forgiving of the story taking a somewhat more mystical turning as the game obviously needs the extra leverage to set up a REALLY big boss fight - and you've already killed all manner of galactic-wide famous giant beasts, legendary heroes, and technical monstrosities - all that's left is some kind of pure-energy godling thing. So long as the boss fight is epic, the lack of continuity is mostly forgivable - Mass Effect 1 is pretty much along these lines, actually. But ME3 - while it has a pure-energy godling thing - does not even have a final boss-fight. (No, marauder shields does not count). So that's not an apt comparison either.

It's really pretty jarring in every way possible, which is what makes it so uniquely terrible. Add to that the immense love for the ME series overall, and that's how you end up with what we've ended up with.

[devSin]

It's certainly one of the most needlessly disappointing in recent memory.

I'm sure there are people who can point to worse, but I certainly can't recall any that felt this crappy.

Modifié par devSin, 04 avril 2012 - 06:03 .

[Hexley UK]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

The Matrix doesn't quite count, as both the last movies suffered from a very consistant stake of lackluster. It's not like Revolutions was going great until the last 5 minutes.

Exactly and it did at least follow it's own (admittedly stupid) logic to the end.

[pomrink]

Yes.

[stcalvin13]

Hexley UK wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

The Matrix doesn't quite count, as both the last movies suffered from a very consistant stake of lackluster. It's not like Revolutions was going great until the last 5 minutes.

Exactly and it did at least follow it's own (admittedly stupid) logic to the end.

Also, Matrix scores lower on the ruiningness scale, b/c we can always just pretend that 2&3 don't exist.  Matrix one was fine as a stand alone.  ME1 isn't.  M1+ME2 aren't.

That said Matrix is definately #2 on my list.

[Avatar231278]

Stargate Atlantis had an incredibly rushed ending, after they cancelled the sereis after Season 5. Trying to wrap everything up in one 45-minute-episode.

In this we got introduced to a new enemy (wraith-scientist able to combine ancient and wraith technology); a new kind of ship (super-powered-hive); the teams were able to collect additional ZPMs in an expedition, we didn't see a second of it, while it was one of the primary goals in the series to get addittional ZPMs; Dr. Zalenka invents and constructs in a matter of minutes a new form of propulsion of which they only had a most basic understanding (wormhole-drive), and we are left with the unknown faith of all the people in the Pegasus-Galaxy, because Atlantis crashlands in the Pacific near SFO.

Still the ending was better than ME3.

[Agiyosi]

The ending of ME3 immediately rang a similar tone to Contact w/ Jodie Foster.

(I'm gonna "spoil" the ending to this movie, so don't read any further if you want to avoid that.)

While not a perfect movie by any means, I thought it was a fairly engaging flick throughout. The chatter about the existence of, or rather belief in, God was kinda trite, but the movie finally surmounted it. Foster's character gets in the device, is shot through a wormhole to various waypoints in the galaxy, and finally winds up on a virtual reality beach with the virtual image of her deceased father approaching her. She deduces that the aliens uploaded her thoughts and memories and used this introduction scenario to comfort her (instead of appearing as some articulate tarantula or whatever they actually looked like). She tries to ask some questions, but is shut down by this benevolent extraterrestrial intelligence. He gives no answers, save the insulting platitude, "Baby steps," a phrase her father used to tell her.

Really? Humans send an emissary across the flippin' gulf of galactic space and when we ask questions we are told #*^*#@^( "BABY STEPS"? Such an anti-climactic finish. So much promise just wasted. 

[sammysoso]

Liber320 wrote...

Worse? Probably.

More dissapointing? I don't think so.

Pretty much this.

The BSG ending was pretty bad, but it wasn't great for the whole final season so I was kind of prepared for that. Mass Effect went to sh*t completely out of the blue.

[Slash1667]

Let's see what I can come up with.....

The Highlander was great but then they made Highlander 2 which ret-conned the entire first movie basically.

But worst ending has to be Firefly. 9 episodes and then nothing....even though there were still 3 episodes left.

Modifié par Slash1667, 04 avril 2012 - 06:23 .

[Tangster]

I can't think of many that are worse.
Peter. F. Hamilton's "Night's Dawn" Trilogy comes darn close with it's random god-like thing solves everything ending, but at least it ends on a positive note instead of random god-entity destroys everything to solve problem.

[nowhereeffect]

Return Of The Jedi's end is worse Darth Vader might had lived if Luke keep his helmet on,then there's the celebration a cross the galaxy that doesn't make sense.Dont get me wrong i am a huge fan of Star Wars but i donk think it gets any worse then that in the Sci-Fi genre.At least Mass Effect 3's ending dont breakout in to a galaxy wide celebration just becasue the reapers were dealt with they i think they showed that we will have to rebuild with the crew crash landing and having to start over.

Modifié par nowhereeffect, 04 avril 2012 - 06:28 .

[KaeserZen]

I think the ending of the season 2 (last one) of the V (2009) series is pretty horrible.

In a nutshell : everybody dies.

[xcomcmdr]

DaeJi wrote...

I would say no. Sure, some endings may be "technically" worse, but I can think of no other endings that cased as much damage to a franchise as the ending to Mass Effect 3.

^This. In fact, it's beyond massive damage. The franchise has become ridiculous and is dead.

Modifié par xcomcmdr, 04 avril 2012 - 06:31 .

[TheNerd182]

Forever Free (sequel to The Forever War) and the Rise of Endymion come to mind for me. Rama Revealed too.
Not nearly as bad because they gradually fell apart but still incredibly unsatisfying conclusions to their respective series.

[someguy1231]

The ending of Star Trek : Enterprise. Even some of the cast members later spoke against it. Thankfully, it was later retconned in an expanded universe novel.

[Avatar231278]

nowhereeffect wrote...

Return Of The Jedi's end is worse Darth Vader might had lived if Luke keep his helmet on,then there's the celebration a cross the galaxy that doesn't make sense.Dont get me wrong i am a huge fan of Star Wars but i donk think it gets any worse then that in the Sci-Fi genre.At least Mass Effect 3's ending dont breakout in to a galaxy wide celebration just becasue the reapers were dealt with they i think they showed that we will have to rebuild with the crew crash landing and having to start over.

Hm. With SW it is stated in the EU and the novels/comics, that most of the celebrations on imperial controlled worlds were put down with brute force, but as Ep6 is the final movie installment of SW, it is better to assume the happy end, as fairy tales tend to have one, than to tell, that it takes over 20 years to bring down the empire for good, and that 100 years later it rises again, even more evil...

[BaKaNoOB]

nope....

[MrnDpty161]

Sure there has in my opinion. The last episode of Star Trek: Enterprise was awful ( Totally F'd up the series), Star Trek: Ds9 --- that went down a bit lame, The Original V series was crap, The Original Bttl Str Galatica...and the new one, the entire series of New Caprica, any Aliens movie after Aliens II, the botched Star Ship Troopers turned into a lame funny flick with over the top nonsense... I'm sure there is an entire grave yard of bad ideas on the SF Book side of the house.

Ohhh... don't forget   The Myst and any and I mean  ANY  M.Night Shaylaman movie, especially  " Signs" --- what a monumental epic form of false advertising.

Modifié par MrnDpty161, 04 avril 2012 - 06:39 .

[ardensia]

xcomcmdr wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

I would say no. Sure, some endings may be "technically" worse, but I can think of no other endings that cased as much damage to a franchise as the ending to Mass Effect 3.

^This. In fact, it's beyond massive damage. The franchise has become ridiculous and is dead.

^Also this, unfortunately. Depending on what they do with any ending DLC, I'm going to have a hell of a time getting anyone else to play my favorite game series now. Most new players won't go near it, and despite all the wonderful things throughout ME, I can't in good faith encourage it knowing how much they might hate the ending.

Modifié par ardensia, 04 avril 2012 - 06:41 .

[aliengmr1]

elitesalt wrote...

the x-files' was pretty bad

Yea but X-files gave you a good long time to experience the fail. ME3 didn't even buy you a drink first before slapping you in the face with its huge fail.

[AkeasharK]

Yes. Blakes 7 would have a lot of the people up in arms despite it being brilliant.

[Bill Casey]

nowhereeffect wrote...

Return Of The Jedi's end is worse Darth Vader might had lived if Luke keep his helmet on,then there's the celebration a cross the galaxy that doesn't make sense.Dont get me wrong i am a huge fan of Star Wars but i donk think it gets any worse then that in the Sci-Fi genre.At least Mass Effect 3's ending dont breakout in to a galaxy wide celebration just becasue the reapers were dealt with

In the original Return of The Jedi, there was just the celebration on Endor...
If Bioware fixes the ending, it would be the polar opposite of this example...

Where George Lucas took something noone really wanted clarified or changed and caused it to make less sense...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 04 avril 2012 - 06:44 .

[daecath]

Personally I didn't like the end of Quantum Leap. I realize wanting to keep the door open for more material (that never materialized DAMNIT!), but it was just so "bittersweet" (I hate that term). Al gets his wife back, but Sam is stuck in time forever. Gee, that's really great. That was one that deserved a happy ending (what can I say, there's too much depressing stuff in the world already, I want a little hope, a little happiness, a little inspiration).

[RoamerZA]

I do not think you can count series that were cancelled as bad endings. They were supposed to be cliffhangers.

BSG was bittersweet, but it was satisfying.

Voyager ending was crap. They got to Earth and closing titles. No resolution for the characters. They had an actor in the last episode playing Paris' father, and we did not even see them reunite.

[Zolt51]

Cazlee wrote...

There are those game that never end, which is what the IT theorists want this game to be, I guess. Given how important the crucible is, I can only imagine that this is their dream ending:

Shepard wakes up from his dream, but the crucible isn't activated yet! So he opens the citadel arms, activates the crucible and then chooses destroy because it allows Shepard to wake up from his dream, but the crucible isn't activated yet! So he opens the citadel arms, activates the crucible and then chooses destroy because it allows Shepard to wake up from his dream, but the crucible isn't activated yet! So he opens the citadel arms, activates the crucible and then chooses destroy because it allows Shepard to wake up from his dream...

^^^ This. You just earned a cookie!