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Are there any WORSE endings in Sci-FI than ME3's?


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ZombieJohn84

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thekelvman wrote...

Star Trek Voyager... and no movies to boot!


Dude, stop it.

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Leafs43 wrote...

Noatz wrote...

If you count Evangelion as sci fi then its probably about the only thing that could legitimately be called worse than ME3's ending.

If not I think you'd be hard pressed to find an ending that more thoroughly taints a franchise.


But they ended up retconning it then created a movie as an "I'm sorry".


Indeed.

*looks at BioWare*

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Worst sci-fi ending of all time imo is Final Fantasy 7.

You get almost no closure what so ever. You just get a quick cinematic which you don't know what exactly is going on. Then you get a cutscene of RED 13 and cubs running to a vegetation covered Midgar.

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2001 space odyssey ofcourse, with the acid trip-FTL-wormhole and the original star child.

Also in this category the film: Independence day with aliens running apparently windows computers was quite fun too.

Also the ending of Babylon-5 shadow war was quite popular theme when it aired.

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Noatz wrote...

If you count Evangelion as sci fi then its probably about the only thing that could legitimately be called worse than ME3's ending.

If not I think you'd be hard pressed to find an ending that more thoroughly taints a franchise.


Congratulations!

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Noatz wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Noatz wrote...

If you count Evangelion as sci fi then its probably about the only thing that could legitimately be called worse than ME3's ending.

If not I think you'd be hard pressed to find an ending that more thoroughly taints a franchise.


But they ended up retconning it then created a movie as an "I'm sorry".


Indeed.

*looks at BioWare*


They took all of the fan complaints and made their wishes come true while retaining and extending the totally trippy ending the original had. People complained that asuka never got to have a proper fight, so they had her fight a ass load of MP evas , then lose and get eaten. She died horribly. Horribly! They even made it look like she was going to win that fight until near the very end of it the evas began regenerating. At one point in the movie the death threats anno got were flashed up on screen. 

If you think EOE was an 'i'm sorry' from gainax, think again. 

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I can think of one or two.

When they made Alien 3...and it was seen as the last of the trilogy...now THAT was a bad ending.

It made no sense from the get go really, and they undid all the themes from Aliens by killing off those themes.

The entire Foundation series. It ends with Foundation and Earth. Some hypothesis that Asimov was going to write more after it, others think that he wrote himself into a corner and couldn't figure out where to go next. That has to have the worst ending ever...to me. Even worse than ME3. Imagine if you had the Indoctrination ending...but it ends with you seeing shepard indoctrinated and dying after his last breath on the concrete...and then synthesis ending...but only for some of the humans...and you see one last Reaper at the end saying...assuming control...

Actually, it's even worse than that. Foundation and Earth has probably had the worst ending I've ever gotten to in a Sci-Fi book simply because it opens a ton of questions and answers none...

Though it ties almost ALL of Asimov's earlier works together into one universe...and concludes a ton of storylines...the cliffhanger it ends on his SO HUGE and SO diabolic...

It just staggered me at the time when I finished the book.

I'm one of those that truly hope that Asimov just never had the time before he died to write the next book...it's the only way I can get a sense of resolvement out of the end from a book that concludes the Galactic Empire, Robots, and Foundation series.

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The original ending to Blade Runner was pretty stupid.

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Objectively worse? Probably. Isolated by itself, cut off from the rest of what happens, its probably not the worst ending ever.

Subjectively? Definitely not. I can't think of a single ending in any Sci-Fi media where the ending has been more badly thought out, more jarring in its complete change of tone and more of a massive, massive drop in quality compared to the rest of it than Mass Effect 3.

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Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles had a terrible ending, but that was because it wasn't an ending, just a season finale with a cliffhanger. Whichever suit at FOX killed that show should get tasered. In the nuts.

Still, it was better than the ending of Mass Effect 3, because it would have been imminently possible to pick up the narrative with the next season premier and continue the show with the loss of only one character (Connor's uncle.)

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Liber320 wrote...

Worse? Probably.

More dissapointing? I don't think so.


Well put (and I defend the ending)

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The Lightspeaker wrote...

Objectively worse? Probably. Isolated by itself, cut off from the rest of what happens, its probably not the worst ending ever.

Subjectively? Definitely not. I can't think of a single ending in any Sci-Fi media where the ending has been more badly thought out, more jarring in its complete change of tone and more of a massive, massive drop in quality compared to the rest of it than Mass Effect 3.



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I thought the Matrix Reloaded had probably the worst ending I've ever experienced. I was so hyped for that movie but it just...sucked. I actually got banned from the theatre where i went to see it at midnight release for raging at people in line to not see the film. Wish those sequels had never been made...

I mean, you want to talk about plot holes...if Neo is able to bend the Matrix to his will, then WTF is he doing fighting 1000 CGI Smiths and flying around? Couldn't he just "will" himself to wherever he wanted to go? Terrible.

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durasteel wrote...

Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles had a terrible ending, but that was because it wasn't an ending, just a season finale with a cliffhanger. Whichever suit at FOX killed that show should get tasered. In the nuts.


*slow clap standing ovation*

Regarding Mass Effect: I've seen worse endings, but not in my memory as an ending to anything that up until that point was competently done.

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The non directors cut of The Abyss. Great movie until the WTF ending. Matter of fact I feel ME3's ending and The Abyss's ending are on the same level. Directors cut made more sense.

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Anyone said Voyager yet?

Okay, it was awful from start to finish, but hte ending was just pulled out of someones butt.

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elitesalt wrote...

the x-files' was pretty bad


The X-Files finale was just kind of bland and mediocre, IMO, plus the whole alien conspiracy plotline had already taken a turn for the worse in the final two seasons with the "supersoldiers that can't be stopped." It didn't resolve much aside from Mulder and Scully's personal relationship, but it also didn't close off the story or turn the whole fictional universe on its head. The main problem I had with it was Mulder being, at least at first, shocked into almost total despair because he discovered that the conspiracy had infiltrated the "shadow government" and a date was set for the invasion. To which I thought, "And this is a surprise to him for what reason, exactly?"

I suppose there's some similarity there to Shepard's odd acquiescence to Starchild's claim that the three endings are the only possibilities, but at least Mulder sort of seemed to be changing his mind as the episode progressed, and since it ended with him and Scully on the run, it was easier to imagine them returning to the fray later.

ME3, if not necessarily "worse," was probably more out-of-left-field than the XF finale.

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AquamanOS wrote...

8's was also vague, and to this day people aren't sure if the main character survived or not.

10's is straight forward, but randomly kills the main character in a scene nobody really saw coming. Though they bring him back in 10-2


FF8: Than those people didn't pay attention, Squall is alive in the end, as clearly seen in a scene after the credits.

FFX: The "death" (yeah, wouldn't really call it that) of the main character and the final itself was forshadowed through the entire game. Once again, seems like people don't pay attention. Even Auron's death was forshadowed.

Concerning ME3, I can't remember any ending having such an impact on me (in a bad way). Surely there're movies or other media with worse endings, but those were worse in every aspect, not just in the ending.

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onlycore6007 wrote...

there is Blakes 7 but even considering the BBC murder that show and it ended with basically all the main characters getting gun down by the bad guys over an epic misunderstanding between Avon and Blake it's still had more impact and weight that... "and then SPACE MAGIC happened"...


I actually don't consider Blake's 7 to have a "bad" ending at all. It's more of a downer than ME3, but it actually made sense in the context of the B7 universe (which, even if you take the Reapers into account, is probably more bleak than ME's). Avon's ruthlessness and paranoia had become even more pronounced, and Blake had seemingly become a harder-edged character as well since his disappearance. Given all that was going on, it probably would have seemed even more jarring if the series *did* have a happy ending.

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cynicalsaint1 wrote...

The original ending to Blade Runner was pretty stupid.


But they changed it.

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StrawberryRainPop wrote...

No. Say what you will about other series, but they stayed true to themselves, and almost all of them had character closure, like LOST. Which i loved!

ME3's ending had nothing.

Well, 3 different colored explosions.


I sort of disagree about Lost. It had closure for Jack, I suppose, and maybe a few others (Hurley, I guess), but otherwise I felt like it basically amounted to, "Well, if they did still have issues, they worked through them in the afterlife, which for some reason consists of living a version of their earthly lives where they don't get stranded on the island."

Lost might actually be the closest comparison I can think of in the sense of a new and somewhat out-of-nowhere concept being introduced at the last minute. I had thought up until the very end that the alternate reality in Season 6 was, in fact, an alternate reality, and that somehow the timelines would merge, or the characters would have to sacrifice their happier existences in the alternate reality to stop the Smoke Monster/Man in Black. And they also sidestepped any of the questions about how and why the island exists and has all these unusual properties in the first place.

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End of eva was and is a masterpiece. If bioware took all the death threats and complaints and crafted an end of Mass effect from it i would be incredibly happy. I would love to see them cave to everyones demands but twist  the execution horribly as EOE did. Would love to see joker not running from the battle for whatever reason and watching the normandy be smashed to oblivion by harbinger, see joker being crushed in edi's arms and edi crushed fractions of a second later. To see the people who were with you when you charged the beam lying dead at the beam site. Change it so that there is only a destroy option and it wipes out the reapers but also all life in the galaxy (not the current case but everyone has convinved themselves it is so why not roll with it) allowing the next cycle of life that rises up to rise up free at the cost of our cycle. Maybe even finish with a shot of the first organic cell being formed after the destructive waves. Oh and have the whole thing voiced over by the star child and run for 25 mins.

I know this hurts you Shepard, but it would please me.   



bit late but even this would make more sence than what we have at the minute :unsure:

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Pathero wrote...

Anyone said Voyager yet?

Okay, it was awful from start to finish, but hte ending was just pulled out of someones butt.


*points to the top of the page*

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OhoniX wrote...

The Matrix
Return of the Jedi
ET
Revenge of the Sith
Avatar
Independence Day
Stargate SG-1
Stargate Atlantis
Battlestar Galactica
Caprica
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek (the new movie)

I don't know, there are more but those are the ones that come to mind.


I loved the Matrix and thought it ended just fine.

As far as Independence Day, it was the much better remake of War of the Worlds than Tom Cruise's version and a damn good movie at that.

Stargate Atlantis I was really happy with the way it ended. Couple of plot holes but at least they were explained in some way that made sense within the context of the show.

Star Trek 2011? Loved the movie nuff said

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Noelemahc wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

Actually ME3 didn't end badly. It, like Firefly, was incomplete.

As good an explanation as any, I guess. Doesn't make it any easier to tolerate, though.


Nope doesn't make it any easier