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[Slash1667]

Oakenshield1 wrote...

Mesmurae wrote...

Firefly had a better ending than ME3, and that show got canceled...

But then we got Senenity which was freaking epic.

We can only hope for the same kind of redemption

[Slash1667]

Captain Arty wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

I would say no. Sure, some endings may be "technically" worse, but I can think of no other endings that cased as much damage to a franchise as the ending to Mass Effect 3.

Agreed. I've been asking friends that haven't played Mass Effect to give me suggestions for what might be worse. I get the standard list over and over again, but nothing that fails on multiple levels and in all elements as ME3 does.

To do worse than Mass Effect 3, an ending would have to:

1) Fail the theme of the story.
2) Lose narrative coherence by generating plotholes and logical failures.
3) Use sloppy production and writing.

I can think of several that do one of the above, but no others do all of the above. The analogies to Lord of the Rings floating around are good examples. If Lord of the Rings had followed a similar pattern, Tom Bombadil would have jumped out from behind a rock in Mount Doom, told Frodo he actually created Sauron as his solution, and that the army of orcs and evil was really just meant to protect all the people of the world by killing them. It's such a terrible, terrible idea it's unthinkable how Mac Walters and Casey Hudson came up with it.

Watch Highlander (the movie) then watch Highlander 2 and watch the entire first movie get ret-conned. ME3's ending was bad but now take that 15 minutes and make an ENTIRE sequal to ME3 out of it.

[Slash1667]

Fliprot wrote...

The ending to ME3 felt like a car crash.

A car crash is Usually more fun to watch.

[Pelle6666]

Aniara... everyone dies...

[Slash1667]

satunnainen wrote...

2001 space odyssey ofcourse, with the acid trip-FTL-wormhole and the original star child.

Also in this category the film: Independence day with aliens running apparently windows computers was quite fun too.

Also the ending of Babylon-5 shadow war was quite popular theme when it aired.

Actually the aliens in ID4 were running Apple thus the ease of connection with Jeff Goldbulm's Apple Laptop

[mxfox408]

I thought I'd seen a messed up ending to the matrix trilogy then I realized its nothing compared to mass effect 3 s ending, atleast the matrix had closure

[Silhouett3]

Weak and dull endings are unfortunately way too common in sci-fi's. The only sci-fi I remember that shines with its ending is Twelve Monkeys.

[Torrible]

DESTRAUDO wrote...


End of eva was and is a masterpiece. If bioware took all the death threats and complaints and crafted an end of Mass effect from it i would be incredibly happy. I would love to see them cave to everyones demands but twist  the execution horribly as EOE did. Would love to see joker not running from the battle for whatever reason and watching the normandy be smashed to oblivion by harbinger, see joker being crushed in edi's arms and edi crushed fractions of a second later. To see the people who were with you when you charged the beam lying dead at the beam site. Change it so that there is only a destroy option and it wipes out the reapers but also all life in the galaxy (not the current case but everyone has convinved themselves it is so why not roll with it) allowing the next cycle of life that rises up to rise up free at the cost of our cycle. Maybe even finish with a shot of the first organic cell shaped like a cupcake being formed after the destructive waves. Oh and have the whole thing voiced over by the star child and run for 25 mins., while the letters A, B and C flash intermittently all over screen in red, green and blue. 

I know this hurts you Shepard, but it would please me.   

Awesome. Added some of my own.

Modifié par Torrible, 04 avril 2012 - 07:47 .

[xsdob]

star wars the forced unleashed bad ending expansion.

See this mary sue character turn luke into a sith lord and cut off han solos head, all while you use the controller to make him do it.

[Nobrandminda]

stcalvin13 wrote...

I count ruiningness towards badness.  Manos: hands of fate had a terrible ending, but it was one of the worst movies ever made, so it doesn't count--or at least it has that against it.

This is why I tend to agree that ME3 is one of the worst endings ever.  I can think of several other endings that are examples of terrible storytelling, but they're not really "bad endings" they're just the conclusion of a bad story.

[Creston918]

2001 was a bit of a "WTF?" moment too, but it never PROMISED you the world only to deliver a turd in three colors either.

Alien Ressurection comes to mind. "OMG, we can't unleash these aliens on the planet! Instead, let's just drop the equivalent of a thermo-nuclear bomb down there!"

I've seen too many sci-fi movies to remember all the endings, but I think ME3 is definitely up there. In gaming, ME3 stands alone for the sheer crap of its ending. It's quite an honor.

[humes spork]

satunnainen wrote...
2001 space odyssey ofcourse, with the acid trip-FTL-wormhole and the original star child.

lolwut? 2001 was one of the finest and most intellectual sci-fi films ever made. Here's some help,

http://www.kubrick2001.com/ 

Modifié par humes spork, 04 avril 2012 - 07:49 .

[adneate]

Monster-a-go-go? That one just kinda ended on some lame philosophical crap, granted it's one of the worst movies ever made.

I'm sure Ed Woods and Coleman Francis made similarily horrible endings. So BioWare are among good company now!

[FrozenDreamfall]

That I have seen/read and played in my life so far? To be perfectly honest,no...and I did see quite a hell lot,none had this impact cause in none you were so deep into and very few of them were this damn confusing.

[NuclearBuddha]

Hm... Arctic Baron, maybe? Where the way to end the game was to go to your rooom and click on the revolver to blow out your brains?

[Cuddlezarro]

gonna harp on the BSG brigade

while bad atleast it had some good stuff in it (the music was wonderful and the final scene with rosalin and adama was great) the last 5 min of ME3... didnt (well except the music that played during star brats scene that music deserved better)

[metawanderer]

If you count books, Stephen Kings's seven part scifi/western/fantasy "The Dark Tower" series had a disappointing ending.

[xXxPoopballs]

Gundam 00: Awakening of the trailblazer, had a extremely similar and awful ending.

[xsdob]

Avatar the last airbender, all that buildup to having to kill ozai, finally going into the full avatar state to beat him, and than that deus ex out of nowhere pressure point move to take away his bending powers.

Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.

Also, zukos mom. We got a buildup ever since season 2 that zuko's mom ran away, got an even bigger hint that ozai might know where she was, last few minutes of the show zuko confronts ozai about in the fire nation prison...and we never get an answer. The scene ended with zuko asking about his mom, and it cut away before ozai even said anything, and the next scene is the big party right before the end credits.

You want lack of closure, what the hell happened in that scene!?

[lordnyx1]

xsdob wrote...

Avatar the last airbender, all that buildup to having to kill ozai, finally going into the full avatar state to beat him, and than that deus ex out of nowhere pressure point move to take away his bending powers.

Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.

Aang learned that tech from the giant lion turtle. Still wasn't any buildup but   meh...

[TheRisenStar]

Skyline. But it's eerily close at the end in a disturbing way.

[xsdob]

lordnyx1 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Avatar the last airbender, all that buildup to having to kill ozai, finally going into the full avatar state to beat him, and than that deus ex out of nowhere pressure point move to take away his bending powers.

Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.

Aang learned that tech from the giant lion turtle. Still wasn't any buildup but   meh...

And the lion turtle was mentioned only in the finale.  The lion turtle seems to be like the crucible, something that was introduced in the finally and provided a solution right out of left feild ie. technique equals starchild.

And that still doesn't answer about the zuko's mom teaser, which is just like the normandy crash scene to me, it leaves me asking why.

Modifié par xsdob, 04 avril 2012 - 08:07 .

[Woodstock-TC]

Ossborn76 wrote...

Yesterday I said in another thread: The ending of Mass Effect 3 not only was the worst ending of the series, it was the worst ending of a computer game I ever witnessed in my whole gaming carreer, which is about 25 years now...

same here. ~25yrs of gaming. Only similar deception i encountered was Lords of Magic which was a really cool game but was released so rushed by SIERRA back than that you couldnt reach the ending. ( a special edition released later fixed it but the original release was left without patch )
The project (first release) was closed before the devs could release a final patch for it, so at the end they tried (and it was still in BBS / Modem, ie FIDOnet times) to make a guerillia release of the patch just honoring the time and trust invested by the fans. We used the FIDOnet Backbones to distribute it hierarchically to the gaming community.
- was the last SIERRA game i bought btw, the devs eventually moved on to other companies.

cheers, 2:245/7

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 04 avril 2012 - 09:59 .

[dahellraider]

Stargate universe had a better ending and it was canceled

[xsdob]

Woodstock-TC wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

Yesterday I said in another thread: The ending of Mass Effect 3 not only was the worst ending of the series, it was the worst ending of a computer game I ever witnessed in my whole gaming carreer, which is about 25 years now...

same here. ~25yrs of gaming. Only similar deception i encountered was Lords of Magic which was a really cool game but was released so rushed by SIERRA back than that you couldnt reach the ending.
The project was closed before the devs could release a final patch for it, so at the end they tried (and it was still in BBS / Modem, ie FIDOnet times) to make a guerillia release of the patch just to honoring the time and trust invested by the fans.

What about ultima 7, 8, and 9?