Are there any WORSE endings in Sci-FI than ME3's?
#201
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:10
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That was a joke.
#202
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:11
xsdob wrote...
Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.
Watch it again the turtle lion teaches him it....
#203
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:12
elitesalt wrote...
the x-files' was pretty bad
Not so bad, at the end, Mulder is with LI, Scully... At least they found themselves again.... Nice closure... IMO
JPR out!
#204
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:12
Cuddlezarro wrote...
gonna harp on the BSG brigade
while bad atleast it had some good stuff in it (the music was wonderful and the final scene with rosalin and adama was great) the last 5 min of ME3... didnt (well except the music that played during star brats scene that music deserved better)
I never thought the BSG ending was that bad. Theres a lot about it that ME3 could have mirrored and got their ending spot on.
BSG-
Ending to me made sense based on the exisitng narrative to the series.
I had closure on the characters
All my questions were answered (yes even Starbuck)
It got Bittersweet right (Adama and Roslins final moments on the Raptor)
I'll grant you Head Six and Head Baltar reading Ron Moores paper at the end was a bit odd but it did still follow the themes of the series and made sense as part of the general narrative.
I still remember when i first watched the last episode. I was literally on the edge of my seat. I sat their expecting pretty much 90% of the characters to be dead by the episodes end. The fact that they werent really came as a surprise/twist to me.
ME3-
Imagine that i was a cartoon character. The moment i finished the game this appeared over my head-
?!
But to answer the question, how about Star Trek V: The Final Frontier?
Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 04 avril 2012 - 08:14 .
#205
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:13
There was this show called John Doe, about a guy who wakes up on a 'random' island without clothes, doesn't know who he is, sees in black and white, but knows the answer to any question asked (except when he is the subject).
There is this young girl which eventually becomes his assistant (the background-check girl). And a barman who becomes a close friend. Throughout the series we get to know little bits more about John Doe's background ofcourse. But the way the first season (and the whole series) ends is this: the cute librarian-girl is kidnapped and John needs to find her, apparently there is this powerful organization after him. He found out she is held prison at this island he woke up on in the first episode, in a secret base. He eventually finds her, but she is DEAD. He tries to get after the guy who kidnapped her, when we (and John) finally saw the identity of the kidnapper (and leader of this agency). He was...the barman... series end...
The Pretender had a lousy ending: Jarod and Ms Parker being blown up in the subway (or wasn't that the end?)
-Brimstone
-Babylon 5: Crusade
#206
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:15
#207
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:16
#208
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:17
#209
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:18
xsdob wrote...
lordnyx1 wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Avatar the last airbender, all that buildup to having to kill ozai, finally going into the full avatar state to beat him, and than that deus ex out of nowhere pressure point move to take away his bending powers.
Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.
Aang learned that tech from the giant lion turtle. Still wasn't any buildup but meh...
And the lion turtle was mentioned only in the finale. The lion turtle seems to be like the crucible, something that was introduced in the finally and provided a solution right out of left feild ie. technique equals starchild.
And that still doesn't answer about the zuko's mom teaser, which is just like the normandy crash scene to me, it leaves me asking why.
The Lion Turtle was mentioned on the desert library on Season 2, and a friend of mine deduced spirit bending after the swamp episode, so it wasn´t out of the blue for me. And the build-up was to avoid killing Ozai. I didn´t expect a different resolution in an all ages show. The worse of Avatar ending was not revealing Ursa´s fate, something they joke about very early on Korra.
On topic, Signs is the only ending as bad as ME3 I can think of. Those aliens couldn´t survive on Earth´s atmosphere, much less walking around naked, turning the movie into a joke. If we talk about worse beginnings, then the first 10 minutes of Alien 3 did this to Aliens.
#210
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:19
Captain Arty wrote...
I think the convention of this thread is to disconsider TV shows that were canned, as they jsut don't have endings.
Quantum Leap had an ending and it was bad.
Sam left bouncing around in time forever at the behest of God who was a Barman in a 50's mining town.
#211
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:19
The Matrix might have been as bad and nonsensical but the was pretty much par for the whole 3rd movie. I imagine if that movie was actually really good but then totally collapsed in the last 5 minutes.
The Star Wars prequels were terrible. Why would the ending be any good?
Signs ending was so mind-blowingly stupid it may qualify as a worse ending. I hate that movie so much.
Modifié par Special J, 04 avril 2012 - 08:21 .
#212
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:24
More than absolutely worse, I can think of comparably unsatisfying endings:
Foundation and Earth's cap to the Foundation series took a sudden left turn in its last pages that came out of nowhere. Sorry CaptainArty, don't see how it was connected to the first few books at all. Even within that last duology I thought the foreshadowing for the end was weak to nonexistant on pretty much all aspects. E.g. after books and books of an all-human galaxy that's done plenty of damage to itself, they're suddenly concerned about hypothetical aliens in the last few pages, and deciding the fate of the galaxy based on that? Grr... the universe I was shown and the universe I'm suddenly being told about are two different things.
The new Battlestar Galactica's final half-hour-or-so seemed to have been watching a completely different story than I had and also had characters doing or accepting nonsensical things. The supernatural aspects weren't actually my complaint, since they were indeed there all along. Rather, it was that the characters themselves started doing the craziest things ("Let's dump what industrial base we have left into the sun! YAY!") and none of them called each other on them.
2001 the movie also has a pretty bad ending, yes. Even more so because someone thought it would be a great idea to put 20 minutes of nothing but fractals into the last bit. As CaptainArty says, the book is a lot more satisfying.
OhoniX wrote...
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Whut.
I hope you mean Nemesis, and not "All Good Things." If you mean the latter, we shall have words, sir...
Modifié par Kloreep, 04 avril 2012 - 08:25 .
#213
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:26
other room´s shelf (altho u7 addons box serpent isle and silver seed can be seen on the left at the top shelfxsdob wrote...
What about ultima 7, 8, and 9?
Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 04 avril 2012 - 08:29 .
#214
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:26
xMellowhype wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.
Watch it again the turtle lion teaches him it....
Okay than, answer me this, Where did the lion turtule the size of an island come from, how come ti knew this technuiqe that non of the other avatars knew, how come they didn't build up the fact that aang had found another way.
Also, zukos mom, the normandy crash scene of avatar.
#215
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:31
Nerevar-as wrote...
xsdob wrote...
lordnyx1 wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Avatar the last airbender, all that buildup to having to kill ozai, finally going into the full avatar state to beat him, and than that deus ex out of nowhere pressure point move to take away his bending powers.
Where did it come form? Who knows. When did he learn it? Never explained. How come it was never mentioned by any of the spirits before? No freaking clue.
Aang learned that tech from the giant lion turtle. Still wasn't any buildup but meh...
And the lion turtle was mentioned only in the finale. The lion turtle seems to be like the crucible, something that was introduced in the finally and provided a solution right out of left feild ie. technique equals starchild.
And that still doesn't answer about the zuko's mom teaser, which is just like the normandy crash scene to me, it leaves me asking why.
The Lion Turtle was mentioned on the desert library on Season 2, and a friend of mine deduced spirit bending after the swamp episode, so it wasn´t out of the blue for me. And the build-up was to avoid killing Ozai. I didn´t expect a different resolution in an all ages show. The worse of Avatar ending was not revealing Ursa´s fate, something they joke about very early on Korra.
On topic, Signs is the only ending as bad as ME3 I can think of. Those aliens couldn´t survive on Earth´s atmosphere, much less walking around naked, turning the movie into a joke. If we talk about worse beginnings, then the first 10 minutes of Alien 3 did this to Aliens.
Yeah I agree with you there, sign was just dumb, proabably a sign for me to not have seen the last airbender movie. Damn you shamalan, why is the fire nation indian?
But I do thank you for clarifying that for me, I haven't seen an episode since the finale, and I've only just found it on my recently created netflix account, only up to episode 3 now.
But the ledgend of korra's out already!? Which day and what time? I want to see that so badly but I haven't found it on dish's dvr yet and I never found a release date.
#216
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:31
Kloreep wrote...
The new Battlestar Galactica's final half-hour-or-so seemed to have been watching a completely different story than I had and also had characters doing or accepting nonsensical things. The supernatural aspects weren't actually my complaint, since they were indeed there all along. Rather, it was that the characters themselves started doing the craziest things ("Let's dump what industrial base we have left into the sun! YAY!") and none of them called each other on them.
The sad thing is they could have made it work much better. With only one proper scientist restarting society should be quite difficult, pointing that out and that the two previous attempts to continue rather than start from zero ended in two genocides might have made accepting that part of the ending easier. Although 150000 years is a lot of time, so the colonists could have been living OK for generations before something sent things back to hell.
#217
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:32
Nerevar-as wrote...
Kloreep wrote...
The new Battlestar Galactica's final half-hour-or-so seemed to have been watching a completely different story than I had and also had characters doing or accepting nonsensical things. The supernatural aspects weren't actually my complaint, since they were indeed there all along. Rather, it was that the characters themselves started doing the craziest things ("Let's dump what industrial base we have left into the sun! YAY!") and none of them called each other on them.
The sad thing is they could have made it work much better. With only one proper scientist restarting society should be quite difficult, pointing that out and that the two previous attempts to continue rather than start from zero ended in two genocides might have made accepting that part of the ending easier. Although 150000 years is a lot of time, so the colonists could have been living OK for generations before something sent things back to hell.
Clarification makes all the difference to an ending. Let's hope ME3 can get some of that before it's too late.
#218
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:33
But... it didn't really have an ending. I don't know if it counts.
#219
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:34
xsdob wrote...
Yeah I agree with you there, sign was just dumb, proabably a sign for me to not have seen the last airbender movie. Damn you shamalan, why is the fire nation indian?
But I do thank you for clarifying that for me, I haven't seen an episode since the finale, and I've only just found it on my recently created netflix account, only up to episode 3 now.
But the ledgend of korra's out already!? Which day and what time? I want to see that so badly but I haven't found it on dish's dvr yet and I never found a release date.
First two episodes were aired on Korranation, I think. You probably can find them around. The series will start properly this month.
#220
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:38
Nerevar-as wrote...
Although 150000 years is a lot of time, so the colonists could have been living OK for generations before something sent things back to hell.
Heh, that brings me to another point: I have no idea why Hera's important, since we all seem very human today, and any of the galactica crew who were sufficiently young could have carried on the genetic line. The only way I can see why she's supposed to be a big deal is if she was indeed crucial to the very survival of the human race. And the only way that could be is if those idiot colonists, having destroyed all their own resources, mostly die out before they have time to reproduce...
I can only imagine they were trying to avoid the inevitable question of why there is no archaelogical evidence of the "chariots of the gods," which would have been an even bigger issue if the characters had gone about using their resources smartly. But in doing so, they turned the characters into puppets and filled the last half hour with "Spock wouldn't do that!" Would have been better off having less closure and more sense. Like with ME3, I was far more upset about what did happen than what didn't.
Modifié par Kloreep, 04 avril 2012 - 08:41 .
#221
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:41
Nerevar-as wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Yeah I agree with you there, sign was just dumb, proabably a sign for me to not have seen the last airbender movie. Damn you shamalan, why is the fire nation indian?
But I do thank you for clarifying that for me, I haven't seen an episode since the finale, and I've only just found it on my recently created netflix account, only up to episode 3 now.
But the ledgend of korra's out already!? Which day and what time? I want to see that so badly but I haven't found it on dish's dvr yet and I never found a release date.
First two episodes were aired on Korranation, I think. You probably can find them around. The series will start properly this month.
Thank you so much.
#222
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:43
I had to go wash that ending off once I put the book down.
#223
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:44
TheNerd182 wrote...
The Neutronium Alchemist by Peter F. Hamilton. That was the conclusion of a really great series, and in the end it
s "space magic" at its worst: the protagonist finds the "god" device that allows him to remake the universe to his liking, undo the damage, save everybody and get the girl.
That's a commong problem when you set up your protagonist against some seemingly impossible odds. Resolution has to come as some form of Deus Ex Machina.. unless you set it up very cleverly right from the start.
Peter F Hamilton reaches for the Deus Ex Machina / McGuffin in pretty much every single one of his books (except Judas Unchained), but at least nothing truly absurd happens. When he finds the Sleeping God of the Tyrathca in Neutronium Alchemist, the device explains what it's there for, and what it can do. Joshua thinks that the universe needs to be more understanding with each other, and so he places something like 1000 planets in close proximity to each other, so space travel becomes unneccesary and everyone is forced to focus on improving civilization and social growth, rather than just expanding outward all the time.
The fact that Joshua is an ass for making this decision for the entire galaxy, I will not deny.
And the problem of the Dead is solved because they have this massive army of cyborgs, basically, that the dead can inhabit.
So yes, while it was a Deux Ex ending, nothing in it happens that doesn't make sense. It's all been set up properly and while it's a bit massive in scale, it's not as if stuff happens that wouldn't even be possible.
Now in ME3....
Modifié par Creston918, 04 avril 2012 - 08:44 .
#224
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:45
seriously sounds better.Hexley UK wrote...
Mixorz wrote...
Yeah..in Killer Clowns From Outer Space, the cop using his badge to kill the giant alien clown by stabbing it in the nose was lame.
And it still is somehow better than the ending to Mass Effect 3.
#225
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 08:46
Kloreep wrote...
Nerevar-as wrote...
Although 150000 years is a lot of time, so the colonists could have been living OK for generations before something sent things back to hell.
Heh, that brings me to another point: I have no idea why Hera's important, since we all seem very human today, and any of the galactica crew who were sufficiently young could have carried on the genetic line. The only way I can see why she's supposed to be a big deal is if she was indeed crucial to the very survival of the human race. And the only way that could be is if those idiot colonists, having destroyed all their own resources, mostly die out before they have time to reproduce...
I can only imagine they were trying to avoid the inevitable question of why there is no archaelogical evidence of the gods' chariots that would have arisen if they had gone about using their resources smartly. But in doing so, they turned the characters into puppets and filled the last half hour with "Spock wouldn't do that!" Would have been better off having less closure and more sense. Like with ME3, I was far more upset about what did happen than what didn't.
Playing ME after watching BSG made me think that if they had taken the time to actually explore Sol system they would have found the Charon Relay in time for Adama to deal with that cycle.





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