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BioWare Fans have a REAL case of False Advertising. (Updated)


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DeeLite808

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Well there is the whole "We won't pull a lost" and the " The endings can't be as simple as A B or C" thing.


They didn't pull a "lost"  - We know that it wasn't all a Dream in Jack's (or the main character's) head

And it wasn't simple as A,B or C. If you didn't make certain decisions during the game and didn't get your War Assets up to the right level, certain elements did not come forth.

17 endings based on your decisions made from ME1 through ME3.

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Da Don Giovanni wrote...

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not from the US, but I wish you good luck :)


I'm dead serious, this is clear cut False Advertising and such is regulated by the FTC and is punishable by law.

I agree 


Glad to see someone has their head OUT of the sand.


The person was just saying they weren't from the US and wished you luck.. but they have their head in the sand because they would probably be unable to help in a US trial?

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Humanoid_Typhoon

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:ph34r:

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Phaedros

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Pax until PAX ~ if we are expected to pay for the ending the gloves come off!

Hold. The. Line.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
As I pointed out in response to the last time you asked, Casey said
there wouldn't be a simple A B or C ending, this isn't even the tip of
the iceberg there was a thread this morning that had a small list or
direct quotes from Casey Hudson and Co where they said something would
or wouldn't happen and that something didn't or did happen.


We didn't get an A, B or C ending. WE had the choice of 17 endings dependant on what you did from ME1 through ME3.

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Phaedros wrote...

Pax until PAX ~ if we are expected to pay for the ending the gloves come off!

Hold. The. Line.


You aren't expected to pay for anything. The ending you saw was all there is. Really.

Now they might make some more stuff as a reaction to the backslash, but that was certainly  was not part of the original plan.

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DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
As I pointed out in response to the last time you asked, Casey said
there wouldn't be a simple A B or C ending, this isn't even the tip of
the iceberg there was a thread this morning that had a small list or
direct quotes from Casey Hudson and Co where they said something would
or wouldn't happen and that something didn't or did happen.


We didn't get an A, B or C ending. WE had the choice of 17 endings dependant on what you did from ME1 through ME3.

In your indoctrinated dreams buddy.




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OP, you are not going to file a lawsuit. you will not file or join a lawsuit. in fact, i would bet money on it. sorry i had to be the one to tell you bro.

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DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
As I pointed out in response to the last time you asked, Casey said
there wouldn't be a simple A B or C ending, this isn't even the tip of
the iceberg there was a thread this morning that had a small list or
direct quotes from Casey Hudson and Co where they said something would
or wouldn't happen and that something didn't or did happen.


We didn't get an A, B or C ending. WE had the choice of 17 endings dependant on what you did from ME1 through ME3.


You mean 6 right? Or do you consider the particular people to walk out of the normandy a defferent ending?

Modifié par ronnok, 04 avril 2012 - 08:50 .


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Da Don Giovanni wrote...


In your indoctrinated dreams buddy.



Not a buddy, and I'm not the one believing indonctrination dreams.

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Humanoid_Typhoon

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DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Well there is the whole "We won't pull a lost" and the " The endings can't be as simple as A B or C" thing.


They didn't pull a "lost"  - We know that it wasn't all a Dream in Jack's (or the main character's) head

And it wasn't simple as A,B or C. If you didn't make certain decisions during the game and didn't get your War Assets up to the right level, certain elements did not come forth.

17 endings based on your decisions made from ME1 through ME3.

Please list these 17 endings.

And the decisions decide whether or not you can pick from A b or C or just A or just A and B, There have been several threads quoting Hudson and Co from interviews and press releases today.

EDIT: In addition to the "No A B or C, he said they wouldn't leave more questions than answers.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 04 avril 2012 - 08:56 .


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Did anyone actually honestly not plan on buying the game until a few Casey Hudson quotes in a magazine suddenly changed your mind and had you sold? lol

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noobcannon wrote...

OP, you are not going to file a lawsuit. you will not file or join a lawsuit. in fact, i would bet money on it. sorry i had to be the one to tell you bro.


I knew someone was going to bring reality into this.

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DeeLite808 wrote...

We didn't get an A, B or C ending. WE had the choice of 17 endings dependant on what you did from ME1 through ME3.

While we might consider the differences largely inconsequentail, "seems to me" isn't the strongest legal case.

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ronnok wrote...

You mean 6 right? Or do you consiter the particular people to walk out of the normandy a defferent ending?


I meant 7.  Stupid key pad on an android phone,

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Squiggles1334 wrote...

Did anyone actually honestly not plan on buying the game until a few Casey Hudson quotes in a magazine suddenly changed your mind and had you sold? lol

I know I wouldn't have forked out the cash for the CE without those statements.

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Squiggles1334 wrote...

Did anyone actually honestly not plan on buying the game until a few Casey Hudson quotes in a magazine suddenly changed your mind and had you sold? lol


it must be nice to have the time / lack of social life to sue over a video game ending.

also, OP, could you maybe record your legal journey and post it on youtube for us? thanks a bunch bro.

Modifié par noobcannon, 04 avril 2012 - 08:56 .


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DeeLite808

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Please list these 17 endings.

 I meant 7 endings. Keypad on Android phone not good when typing fast and autocorrect hates me.

And the decisions decide whether or not you can pick from A b or C or just A or just A and B, There have been several threads quoting Hudson and Co from interviews and press releases today.


So what? A few quotes from Casey Hudson isn't going to make someone say "HECK I'M SOLD!!! yeah, I'll buy it"

News: most of the orders for ME3 came from PRE-ORDERS. BEfore Casey Hudson made any statements in any interviews.

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DeeLite808 wrote...

I meant 7.  Stupid key pad on an android phone,

alright but i'm watching you.Image IPB

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Da Don Giovanni wrote...

***Note: What is the #1 rule of Business? Customer Satisfaction.

***I agree that no legal action should be taken until after BioWare's "April Announcement" which may or may not take place at PAX. That being said, if BioWare's "April Announcement" is the Retake Omega DLC and NO MENTION of "Fixing" the "On Disc" ending to Mass Effect 3, that will be the time when Mass Effect fans need to get serious. The only problem I forsee is the money it would take to hire lawyers of our own to fight EA's lawyers. We have a case, a real one, but getting it in front of the Judge is a challenge, once that's done, the Judge would say in the Turian Councilor's voice from ME1 when being presented with Saren's audio tape, "This evidence is irrefutable"


First of all, I've supported BioWare for many years (DA:O/SWTOR/ME1&2/SWKoTOR), but clearly with the Game Informer magazine issue 217, May 2011 and all that was stated in it, the literally Color Coded, A, B, C endings in the game files and the complete 180 from what we were told and what was promised (many statements that I won't take the time to post here), the Federal Trade Commission should at the VERY LEAST, know (from the tens of thousands of us) that BioWare used False Advertising to sell a product.

To be realistic, getting a case like this in front of an FTC judge is hard, but NOT impossible. Even if it was impossible, it SHOULD NOT STOP US from letting BioWare/EA know that they crossed the line. That being said I'd be willing to represent the Fans of Mass Effect in front of a Federal Judge assuming that BioWare/EA never reveals plans to fix the on disc ending

Here, (a small portion) of my evidence:

http://en.wikipedia....lse_advertising

http://social.biowar...ndex/10927975/1

http://i41.tinypic.com/2edp2xc.png



All the news articles, forum posts, all the Fan's of Mass Effect and their opinion.

*Note: This thread was written in about 5 minutes, it does not reflect the case file I would bring to court, not by long shot, it does however state the thesis and topic of the court case that could be held.

**Note: Should Stanley Woo or Chris dismiss this as "not ME3 related" and lock this thread. You would be furthering my evidence that A) you don't care about the fans, you care about your bank statement and B) you have abandoned the #1 rule of Business: Customer Satisfaction.


Agreed?


Not caring about customer satisfaction is not a crime. 

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Squiggles1334 wrote...

Did anyone actually honestly not plan on buying the game until a few Casey Hudson quotes in a magazine suddenly changed your mind and had you sold? lol

I know I wouldn't have forked out the cash for the CE without those statements.


me too. and the one about rachni queen.

in all honesty, I will still probably buy ME 3.... because I like ME 2.... but not before some price drop.... and definately not CE pre-order.

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ronnok wrote...

alright but i'm watching you.Image IPB


Oh....I don't mind a turian watching me.....:innocent:

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DeeLite808 wrote...


And the decisions decide whether or not you can pick from A b or C or just A or just A and B, There have been several threads quoting Hudson and Co from interviews and press releases today.


So what? A few quotes from Casey Hudson isn't going to make someone say "HECK I'M SOLD!!! yeah, I'll buy it"

News: most of the orders for ME3 came from PRE-ORDERS. BEfore Casey Hudson made any statements in any interviews.


In what bizzaro universe are you living in? I get the problem now, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:01 .


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*waves hand over OP* this is not the solution you are looking for

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At this point in time I hope you bring them down.
They have been nothing but rude, if they did have it planned will that is not how ME3 was advertised and they should be liable to legal actions.

I wish you the best of luck and do us all proud, you have my support.