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[Aerevane]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

2 more days dammit, this couldnt have waited 2 more days?

That hardly changes anything. They promised a product that wouldn't contain A, B or C endings and they came up with A (red), B (green) and C (blue). Regardless of what they may come with to fix this (which only adds clarification), it does not fix the fact they shipped a product that did meet up to what they promised.

[DJBare]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Sorry, but please point out a specific statement where they knowingly lied.

Sorry, took me a while social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10473356

[DeeLite808]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 In what bizzaro universe are you living in?

I live here in REALITY. Where you don't sue people because you hate a games ending.

I get the problem now, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Funny, I just proved that the OP has no case.
That there has been no false advertising in the sense that you would need to prove in a COURT OF LAW


And that thread with Casey Hudson quotes. An article from May of 2011. At a time early in production.

Sorry, but things change. That article was written probably at a time in early story development where they were deciding on what to keep and what not to keep in. For a title that would be RELEASED almost a year later.




It only demonstrates yet again, the ignorance of "fans" when it comes to game production.

Modifié par DeeLite808, 04 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[noobcannon]

reehdus wrote...

*waves hand over OP* this is not the solution you are looking for

no. don't do that. i want to see this play out.

OP, if you decide to go through with this, i'll offer you my legal services free of charge.


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[Humanoid_Typhoon]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 In what bizzaro universe are you living in?

I live here in REALITY. Where you don't sue people because you hate a games ending.

I get the problem now, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Funny, I just proved that the OP has no case.
That there has been no false advertising in the sense that you would need to prove in a COURT OF LAW


And that thread with Casey Hudson quotes. An article from May of 2011. At a time early in production.

Sorry, but things change. That article was written probably at a time in early story development where they were deciding on what to keep and what not to keep in. For a title that would be RELEASED almost a year later.




It only demonstrates yet again, the ignorance of "fans" when it comes to game production.

You don't advertise a promise if you aren't sure you can keep it or if you are decided whether or not to

I would like to direct you to this thread
http://social.biowar.../index/10473356 
  this has quotes from before and after the game went gold.

But I must be off to bed.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:10 .

[Eire Icon]

OP: Have you returned your game ? ie asked for a refund?

[DeeLite808]

DJBare wrote...
Sorry, took me a while social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10473356

one by one:


“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of
the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

--- nope nothing false in this statement. There was a resolution and each are different based on what you would do.

Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming
to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more
different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions
that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s
not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say
how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The
endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player decide what your story is.”


---- nothing false in this statement. We are able to achieve 7 different endings based on the choices we made all the way from ME1.



“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you
approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it
continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a
classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice
between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different
choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for
everyone who plays it.”


--- correct. we got a bunch of consequences based on the decisions we made..many of which were difficult decisions to make. Do we lie to our squad mates/ do we take the moral high ground. do we sacrifice the lives on the ones we knew...etc.



“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

---- yes we got 7 different endings. Closure guaranteed in at least 5 of them. 2 of which are left open. whoopee doo.



so again, I ask for SPECIFIC and KNOWINGLY FALSE ADVERTISING.


I've yet to see anyone back this up.

[noobcannon]

omg this thread is a gold mine for trolls.

Modifié par noobcannon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[DeeLite808]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
You don't advertise a promise if you aren't sure you can keep it or if you are decided whether or not to

Please provide evidence in ANY advertisment  that promised something that wasn't kept.

Any advertisment.

A poster, that says "you will get closure to your quest'

something,


Interviews btw, are not considered advertisments due to statements that can be taken out of context by even the interviewer of the interviewee.

[DJBare]

DeeLite808 wrote...


---- nothing false in this statement. We are able to achieve 7 different endings based on the choices we made all the way from ME1.
---- yes we got 7 different endings. Closure guaranteed in at least 5 of them. 2 of which are left open. whoopee doo.



so again, I ask for SPECIFIC and KNOWINGLY FALSE ADVERTISING.


I've yet to see anyone back this up.

And Casey Hudson stated 16 endings, but I cannot be arsed to do another search, I'm against taking legal action, but they still lied.

[noobcannon]

hey i have a serious question. if you losers end up not filing a lawsuit, can i sue you for false advertising? because i think that makes alot of sense.

Modifié par noobcannon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:18 .

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
You don't advertise a promise if you aren't sure you can keep it or if you are decided whether or not to

Please provide evidence in ANY advertisment  that promised something that wasn't kept.

Any advertisment.

A poster, that says "you will get closure to your quest'

something,


Interviews btw, are not considered advertisments due to statements that can be taken out of context by even the interviewer of the interviewee.

“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to
victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost
Reaper “off” button; says Hudson” (Game Informer May 2011)

(just to clarify this whole suing thing is ridiculous.)

[DeeLite808]

DJBare wrote...

And Casey Hudson stated 16 endings, but I cannot be arsed to do another search, I'm against taking legal action, but they still lied.

REading over the details from another thread (yes there are 16 actual endings)

Since I destroyed the Collector base in me2, there are 8 available based on this decision (in all my playthroughs, I destroyed the base)

IF you didn't destroy the Collector base in ME2 there are 8 endings based on this decision.



So sorry to rannok and Human Typhoid, there are more than 7 endings. All based on a decision you made at the ending of ME2.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

And Casey Hudson stated 16 endings, but I cannot be arsed to do another search, I'm against taking legal action, but they still lied.

REading over the details from another thread (yes there are 16 actual endings)

Since I destroyed the Collector base in me2, there are 8 available based on this decision (in all my playthroughs, I destroyed the base)

IF you didn't destroy the Collector base in ME2 there are 8 endings based on this decision.



So sorry to rannok and Human Typhoid, there are more than 7 endings. All based on a decision you made at the ending of ME2.

I counted 8.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 04 avril 2012 - 09:26 .

[bahamutomega]

OP: please, go ahead and **** it up for the rest of us. if they were going to make an announcement pertaining to the endings AFTER PAX, i'm fairly certain if you file your lawsuit, they will have no choice but to say "due to litigation, we have been strongly advised against making any additional comments about the endings of Mass Effect 3 until the case has been resolved."

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...



“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to
victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost
Reaper “off” button; says Hudson” (Game Informer May 2011)

(just to clarify this whole suing thing is ridiculous.)

And you don't find any "long lost reaper off button". As demonstrated by the choices you are given in the end.

[Mandemon]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
As I pointed out in response to the last time you asked, Casey said
there wouldn't be a simple A B or C ending, this isn't even the tip of
the iceberg there was a thread this morning that had a small list or
direct quotes from Casey Hudson and Co where they said something would
or wouldn't happen and that something didn't or did happen.

We didn't get an A, B or C ending. WE had the choice of 17 endings dependant on what you did from ME1 through ME3.

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

[Robhuzz]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

2 more days dammit, this couldnt have waited 2 more days?

If this stuff takes as long in the USA as it takes in Holland, it'll be several months, maybe even years before we so much as hear anything more on this anyway...

And you don't find any "long lost reaper off button". As demonstrated by the choices you are given in the end. 

What choice man? You get to choose whether you want to ruin the galaxy in red, blue or green. How is that a real choice?<_<

Modifié par Robhuzz, 04 avril 2012 - 09:34 .

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Hey OP

Opinions IS NOT LEGAL EVIDENCE

Have fun wasting the courts time

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...

I counted 8.

you count 8 files. 8 Files of various sizes, that have programming in them that you can't see.

some if then statements that you are not aware of.

Do you honestly think that all 16 endings would need to be in 16 sepearate files? talk about coding inefficiency


1 file covers two choices based on what you did in ME2, based on my 10 year outdated game programming I did in high school.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...



“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to
victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost
Reaper “off” button; says Hudson” (Game Informer May 2011)

(just to clarify this whole suing thing is ridiculous.)

And you don't find any "long lost reaper off button". As demonstrated by the choices you are given in the end.

Sorry it was 2 buttons and a convenient red tower that when you shoot explodes causing the reapers to die. Dude ya got 3 choices you picked one and the cinematics are slightly tweaked, Joker runs away in all of them the explosion is Red,Green, or blue and the Mass Relays blow up. I'm just being real about it that's what it was.

[DJBare]

DeeLite808 wrote...
And you don't find any "long lost reaper off button". As demonstrated by the choices you are given in the end.

Destroy: kill all reapers....and any sythetics
Control: stop Reapers
Synthesis: combine all organic and synthetic, essentially stop the Reapers

Sounds like off buttons to me.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

I counted 8.

you count 8 files. 8 Files of various sizes, that have programming in them that you can't see.

some if then statements that you are not aware of.

Do you honestly think that all 16 endings would need to be in 16 sepearate files? talk about coding inefficiency


1 file covers two choices based on what you did in ME2, based on my 10 year outdated game programming I did in high school.

[DeeLite808]

Mandemon wrote...

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

[Tessah]

*FacePalm* this is so dumb