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[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Mandemon wrote...

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

Dude do you not see how slightly tweaked those are? Anderson dies in all of them btw. It's such a minuscule difference that it's insulting. We went from 16 vastly different endings to this?

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...

And our point? Ending movie sequences are the same. So what? Saves times and is efficient than to render completely different scenes to do the same thing for different endings.

They made the distinction of the colors based on your final decisions.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

And our point? Ending movie sequences are the same. So what? Saves times and is efficient than to render completely different scenes to do the same thing for different endings.

They made the distinction of the colors based on your final decisions.

What final decisions bro? I mean enlighten me please I want to understand what final decisions came in to play?

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...



Dude do you not see how slightly tweaked those are? Anderson dies in all of them btw. It's such a minuscule difference that it's insulting. We went from 16 vastly different endings to this?

I've highlighed the problem with your sentence.

No one said or claimed that there were 16 VASTLY different endings. Please provide the EXACT quote by anyone at EA/BioWARe, any PR statement, and Press Release, or Media Alert that said that there was 16 VASTLY different endings.

I made no mention that the ENDINGS were VASTLY different. I stated that there were 16 endings, and they were based on the decisions you made from ME1 through ME3.


You assumed there would be VASTLY different endings. Sorry, but I saw nothing and heard no claims by anyone that there were VASTLY different endings.

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...


What final decisions bro? I mean enlighten me please I want to understand what final decisions came in to play?

Play the game and Pay attention to your choices instead of pressing X to speed through conversations (or turn of the autmoatic dialog choices).


and i'm not a bro.

[DJBare]

Man I hate this forum software!

Modifié par DJBare, 04 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[DESTRAUDO]

KingKhan03 wrote...

DeeLite808 wrote...

Mandemon wrote...

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

Dude do you not see how slightly tweaked those are? Anderson dies in all of them btw. It's such a minuscule difference that it's insulting. We went from 16 vastly different endings to this?

Just let me write out a cheque for 10 million dollars to bioware and we can get those 16 vastly different endings sorted. 

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...



Dude do you not see how slightly tweaked those are? Anderson dies in all of them btw. It's such a minuscule difference that it's insulting. We went from 16 vastly different endings to this?

I've highlighed the problem with your sentence.

No one said or claimed that there were 16 VASTLY different endings. Please provide the EXACT quote by anyone at EA/BioWARe, any PR statement, and Press Release, or Media Alert that said that there was 16 VASTLY different endings.

I made no mention that the ENDINGS were VASTLY different. I stated that there were 16 endings, and they were based on the decisions you made from ME1 through ME3.


You assumed there would be VASTLY different endings. Sorry, but I saw nothing and heard no claims by anyone that there were VASTLY different endings.

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 1/10/12
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2

Interviewer:
[Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”

Hudson:
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build
the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually
tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end
with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a
lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player decide what your story is.”



Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/2/12
http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."

Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending.
BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than
answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.

“You'll
get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
some answers to these people.”

“Because a lot of these plot
threads are concluding and because it's being brought to a finale, since
you were a part of architecting how they got to how they were, you will
definitely sense how they close was because of the decisions you made
and because of the decisions you didn't make”

[Edrick1976]

I agree... and if people where serious about funds for a lawyer I think we could get it. Hell we raised $80,000 in 10 days for charity to express our displeasure and I am sure giving enough time we could get the money for a good lawyer.

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Dear OP

Do you realise how pathetic you look in the eyes of the public that don't know about the Mass Effect series?

Here's what the newspaper article would look like:
"Gamer sues videogame company over ending."

Instant reaction over not knowing any facts would be simply that you didn't like the ending, and in the end this is what it boils down to, you didn't like the ending. There are thousands of Mass Effect fans who had no problems with the ending (myself included).

[DeeLite808]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

Just let me write out a cheque for 10 million dollars to bioware and we can get those 16 vastly different endings sorted. 

I just want to see if anyone can point out the promise of having 16 VASTLY different Endings made by any PR , press release, media alert or person at EA/BioWare

[CroGamer002]

At first I was thinking this is a bit going too far, but after a while I really think there should be legal action taken.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

DESTRAUDO wrote...

Just let me write out a cheque for 10 million dollars to bioware and we can get those 16 vastly different endings sorted. 

I just want to see if anyone can point out the promise of having 16 VASTLY different Endings made by any PR , press release, media alert or person at EA/BioWare

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/23/12
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/

“There
are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could
you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be
forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...

[snipped quotes that doesn't support anything you have stated]

Sorry, but I asked for SPECIFIC quote for 16 VASTLY DIFFERENT endings.

[DJBare]

DeeLite808 wrote...
Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

[Drake-Shepard]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

DeeLite808 wrote...

Mandemon wrote...

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

Dude do you not see how slightly tweaked those are? Anderson dies in all of them btw. It's such a minuscule difference that it's insulting. We went from 16 vastly different endings to this?

Just let me write out a cheque for 10 million dollars to bioware and we can get those 16 vastly different endings sorted. 

omg there are actually 16

i thought there were like 7 variations so an ending dlc would give us the real 16 endings. But if there are all ready 16 then this is what they meant all along. This is depressing

[DeeLite808]

KingKhan03 wrote...


“There
are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could
you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be
forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…

AGain, please provide a quote from a pr, press release, medial alert or someone that said there are 16 VASTLY different endings.

I see a person stating that there are many different endings.

that's what we got

16 different endings based on the decisions you made from ME1 through ME3


Many =/= VASTLY

Modifié par DeeLite808, 04 avril 2012 - 09:49 .

[Mandemon]

DeeLite808 wrote...

Mandemon wrote...

Dude what? We only have 6 different videos that can play. That is not 17 different endings, unless you use completly different math system.

Collector’s Base Saved in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

• Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
• Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
• Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
• Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
• Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
• Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard alive.
• Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and fail to save Anderson to see Shepard alive.

16 or you can't count?

,,,

That is not "ending". That is "Do you get A, A and B, or A, B and C options".  Collector base does not change the ending, it changes "score" requirement you need to achieve same endings.

To make it simple, those are requirements for ending, in thsi case your EMS score. Complete this and that, and you need X EMS to get the option. That is not an ending.

These are the endings:

 

Modifié par Mandemon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[Bizbag]

I'm going to decline comment on the legal issue, but your very first premise is wrong. The number one rule of business is to turn a profit . Customer satisfaction is a means to encourage future profit via repeat customers and good reviews. This is most evident among companies that produce commodities or nessecitied, not to mention scams, which are business that sabotage customer satisfaction deliberately.

This is not to say customer satisfaction is never important, but any company of significant size does not seek to satisfy customers for its own good, but as a means to an end. In EA and Bioware's case, they risk their reputation in the industry and they risk future sales if they do nothing. While as individuals, I am confident that every Bioware employee wants his customers to be happy with their product, but it is foolish to imagine that that is their number one goal. Their number one goal is to sell more video games. Happy customers means more sales.

[DJBare]

DeeLite808 wrote...

I just cancelled out 8 of your endings if you go back and look, I even color coded for you, how generous is that.

[KingKhan03]

DeeLite808 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...


“There
are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could
you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be
forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…

AGain, please provide a quote from a pr, press release, medial alert or someone that said there are 16 VASTLY different endings.

I see a person stating that there are many different endings.

that's what we got

16 different endings based on the decisions you made from ME1 through ME3

I can't find a quote but I played ME1 to ME3 and I bolded the part of your statement that I find hilarious you're still not telling me which choices factor into the ending.

[liggy002]

Like the others, I would advise patience in this regard. Wait until the PAX announcement.

[KaptainKyle]

Its like the time I got my Reggae Reggae meal from KFC, I didn't get my corn on the cob with it even though the meal is advertised with one, I don't like sweetcorn so it didn't bother me but still!

[DeeLite808]

Mandemon wrote...

That is not "ending". That is "Do you get A, A and B, or A, B and C options".  Collector base does not change the ending, it changes "score" requirement you need to achieve same endings.
\\

Oy vey...one more time

Score requirement is part of the basis to get the required amount for the different endings. If you don't destroy it, you are missing out on 300 points. There are crazy people out there who will try the game with the lowest amount of assets just to see what it would affect.

We've all seen the suicide mission in ME2 videos, if you don't upgrade your ship weapons and take on the Collector base at the end.

[Drake-Shepard]

KaptainKyle wrote...

Its like the time I got my Reggae Reggae meal from KFC, I didn't get my corn on the cob with it even though the meal is advertised with one, I don't like sweetcorn so it didn't bother me but still!

thanks for the heads up. i was going to eat it this weekend