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[Naturalus]

I know that many people protest that Joker and Normandy run in end scene when she was supposed to stay and wait around earth supporting Shepard or giving evac for Shepard in case needed.

Reason they run is that. Normandy is AI ship that contains EDI this is reason why that Crucible synthetic killing energy harms Normandy. Joker loves EDI and he try to save desperately her from that Synthetic killing beam.

This run scene for Normandy on fits only if Shepard choice synthetic life killing ending I do not understand why same Normandy run scene comes if Shepard choice synthesis or control ending. Controls ending dont harm EDI and synthesis helps Joker and EDI become lovers even better.

Modifié par Naturalus, 04 avril 2012 - 07:50 .

[Sinekein]

Naturalus wrote...

This run scene for Normandy on fits only if Shepard choice synthetic life killing ending I do not understand why same Normandy run scene comes if Shepard choice synthesis or control ending. Controls ending dont harm EDI and synthesis helps Joker and EDI become lovers even better.

That's kind of the problem here.

[likta_]

How does Joker know that the beam is going to kill EDI?

[KingKhan03]

Naturalus wrote...

I know that many people protest that Joker and Normandy run in end scene when she was supposed to stay and wait around earth supporting Shepard or giving evac for Shepard in case needed.

Normandy is AI ship that contains EDI this is reason why that Crucible synthetic killing energy harms Normandy. Joker loves EDI and he try to save desperately her from that Synthetic killing beam.

This run scene for Normandy on fits only if Shepard choice synthetic life killing ending I do not understand why same Normandy run scene comes if Shepard choice synthesis or control ending. Controls ending dont harm EDI and synthesis helps Joker and EDI become lovers even better.

The only reason people are so confused by it is because why would Joker be running away from the battle and abandon Shephard we have no idea what happenes in between and it seems that your crew just abandons you and leaves you to die. Joker would not leave Shephard especially after Shephard saves him at the start of ME2.

[QuanManChu]

likta_ wrote...

How does Joker know that the beam is going to kill EDI?

QFT.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

only way it makes sense is, if Joker is a coward

[Fat Headed Wolf]

I love how in my playthrough I chose Synthesis and took EDI with me on the charge down the hill towards the beam. Apparently Joker was brave enough to swoop down and save his girlfriend but not brave enough to fight.

Saved his lady and ran...

[Provo_101]

Yeah, no one other than Shepard knows jack about the Skittles beam. Sorry.

[kalamity116]

There's one problem: Joker has no way of knowing what the starkid told Shepard.

Also, since the Charon relay is all the way out next to Pluto, that means the Normandy must've have FTL jumped quite a while ago to even get to the mass relay in the first place.

[BobbyDylan]

How would Joker know what Shep decided?

[Sesshomaru47]

Doesn't explain how someone who was standing right next to you 5 minuets ago suddenly got beamed up to run away with him.

[KingKhan03]

BobbyDylan wrote...

How would Joker know what Shep decided?

That's what kills me it's all implied and its so damn lazy.

[Robhuzz]

Naturalus wrote...

I know that many people protest that Joker and Normandy run in end scene when she was supposed to stay and wait around earth supporting Shepard or giving evac for Shepard in case needed.

Reason they run is that. Normandy is AI ship that contains EDI this is reason why that Crucible synthetic killing energy harms Normandy. Joker loves EDI and he try to save desperately her from that Synthetic killing beam.

This run scene for Normandy on fits only if Shepard choice synthetic life killing ending I do not understand why same Normandy run scene comes if Shepard choice synthesis or control ending. Controls ending dont harm EDI and synthesis helps Joker and EDI become lovers even better.

That'd make a tiny bit of sense but Joker doesn't know about what the beam does, nobody does in fact.

Aside from that: Joker was under orders to fight the Reapers. Bailing out at that point would get him court martialed, he'd spend a long time in prison while the Alliance installed another pilot on the Normandy. And he knew that very well. Also nobody knew the Relays would magically blow up, so Joker can't have left figuring the Alliance would never find him either.

Lastly: Even though he loves EDI, Joker is not about to abandon everything he fought for the past few years. He wouldn't leave Shepard or the rest of the crew behind in a selfish act to save himself. Speaking of the rest of the crew... how did they magically teleport themselves aboard the normandy again?


Sorry OP. This scene is just one of the many huge gaping plot holes in the ending. No amount of explanation is going to fix this.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 04 avril 2012 - 07:58 .

[ZajoE38]

Maybe Joker got some priority assignment from Hackett and he was just on a mission.

[DJBare]

And even if Joker did know, EDI is unshackled, she would argue to stay and help Shepard reminding Joker that emotion(his feelings for her) must not take precedent over the mission.

Modifié par DJBare, 04 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[BABEik52092]

likta_ wrote...

How does Joker know that the beam is going to kill EDI?

This.

[dannii2]

kalamity116 wrote...

There's one problem: Joker has no way of knowing what the starkid told Shepard.

Also, since the Charon relay is all the way out next to Pluto, that means the Normandy must've have FTL jumped quite a while ago to even get to the mass relay in the first place.

I never understood this bit either. Guess I 'just don't get it'?

I agree with the way you figured it, I think it would take round about 5 and a bit hours at light speed to get to Pluto from Earth. Just how much Faster than Light speed IS the FTL drive in ME? (probably a codex entry somewhere?)

[Federally]

Okay OP I have a question for you.

How does EDI survive the Normandy crash? EDI is a "quantum blue box" AI, this means she literally is the blue box in the AI core. If the box is destroyed or damaged EDI dies, you could retrieve the data from the box and put it in another but you would simply be creating a new AI with EDI's memories. EDI's body is simply a tool she controls remotely, she still inhabits the box installed on the Normandy.

So how is she alive after the crash?

[SillyNydia]

My question is, how does joker look back into the cabin of the Normandy and see the collapsing Mass Effect field!?

[sth128]

Even if that explanation made any sense, and it absolutely, definitely, 100% doesn't, AT ALL, it still won't explain why JOKER RUNS AWAY IN ALL ENDINGS.

Joker runs away when the beam only controls Reapers.

Joker runs away when the beam makes Space Hamster into Cyber Hamster.

OP can't think straight due to shock from underwhelming ending. Or OP can't grasp basic logic.

Scientific fact: if you like the ME3 ending in any way, shape, or form, you should get your head checked out.

[Naturalus]

likta_ wrote...

How does Joker know that the beam is going to kill EDI?

Maybe EDI analyzed energy beam with Normandy sensors before it hits and started to tell Joker that this is goodbye or tells Joker, that beam harms Normandy. Joker refuse for this because of his love for EDI and runs to save her.

[DJBare]

Joker: The crew on this ship are behind you 100% commander.

[Doctoglethorpe]

OP explains why is own solution doesn't work in his own original post. 

Plus... well... how do they know whats gonna happen in the first place? 

[Legendaryred]

The normandy's engines exploded was because during ME3 EDI updated the cyber warfare suite of the Normandy to resemble reaper code exactly.

[kalamity116]

SillyNydia wrote...

My question is, how does joker look back into the cabin of the Normandy and see the collapsing Mass Effect field!?

HA, yeah I noticed this the first time I saw it and lol'd. Maybe it was just a natural 'twitch' reaction--I'm willing to bet that even Joker himself thought something along the lines of "wow, what the hell, why'd I do that?" right after he did.