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[digby69]

Navasha wrote...

ME3 DLC will not sell as well as it could've.

I agree, sad though it is.

[Wulfram]

kbct wrote...

ME3 DLC will not sell as well as it could've.

But it'll sell well enough to justify it's cost.

[Traim Eisenblut]

Wulfram wrote...

kbct wrote...

ME3 DLC will not sell as well as it could've.

But it'll sell well enough to justify it's cost.

That`s not what corporations are interested in, that would be non-profit-organizations. BW will have a businessplan regarding ME:3 that estimates how much profits they wanted to make out of game sales and calculated how much profits DLCs will bring them. After the ending debacle, they will have to recalculate all this.

EA stockholders will not be pleased by a triple A title that only brings in the production costs. They want profits, lots of it, and ME:3 was planned as a cashcow through DLCs and online-lottery-packs.
As long as no real numbers are out, we can only guess what effect the bad reputation of the game had on sales and how that affects the future plans for the franchise.

[kbct]

Wulfram wrote...

kbct wrote...

ME3 DLC will not sell as well as it could've.

But it'll sell well enough to justify it's cost.

Why did they cancel the DA2 DLC then? All DLC will sell enough to justify the cost, right?

Given the mess about the ending, I would be a little worried about selling DLC to people that don't want to replay the game.

[Wulfram]

kbct wrote...

Why did they cancel the DA2 DLC then? All DLC will sell enough to justify the cost, right?

Not all DLC, no.  Ones for recently released games which have sold more than 3 million copies should be a pretty solid bet though.

Given the mess about the ending, I would be a little worried about selling DLC to people that don't want to replay the game.

I'm not saying it won't cost them sales.  Just not enough to stop them releasing at least one DLC, probably two.

[spacehamsterZH]

If the comments about ME2 on this board were any indication, nobody would have bought any ME2 DLC and ME3 would have been completely boycotted. Funnily enough, that didn't happen.

[Navasha]

I don't think a lot of people realize how fickle gamers can be. We can be outraged one minute and then clamoring to buy the next game as soon as its announced.

We will never know the numbers, but how many of you honestly said you would never buy ME3 because ME2 was such a horrendous failure after ME1, but then still bought ME3 anyway?

For all the outrage and boycotting people claim.... they will be right there on release day for ME4.

[kbct]

Wulfram wrote...

kbct wrote...

Why did they cancel the DA2 DLC then? All DLC will sell enough to justify the cost, right?

Not all DLC, no.  Ones for recently released games which have sold more than 3 million copies should be a pretty solid bet though.

I'm not saying it won't cost them sales.  Just not enough to stop them releasing at least one DLC, probably two.

I'm sure they'll release the DLC. It's already in the works. It's hard to tell if it will be profitable, however. We don't know much about the cost. EA has lost money every year since they purhcased BioWare. EA is down about 70% since purchasing BioWare.

[kbct]

Navasha wrote...
For all the outrage and boycotting people claim.... they will be right there on release day for ME4.

I've been gaming for awhile. I've never seen anything like this. This is different.

[digby69]

kbct wrote...

Navasha wrote...
For all the outrage and boycotting people claim.... they will be right there on release day for ME4.

I've been gaming for awhile. I've never seen anything like this. This is different.

I agree totally.

Yes there was complaint about ME2 compared to ME1 and complaint about ME2 DLC BUT over all ME2 and its DLC were popular.

Now with DA2 it was a bit worse, I would say a 60/40 hate/love, the hate coming from people who had played DA:0

[abaris]

Navasha wrote...

We will never know the numbers, but how many of you honestly said you would never buy ME3 because ME2 was such a horrendous failure after ME1, but then still bought ME3 anyway?

I never felt that way. In fact I was under the impression ME2 played to the real strengths of Bioware - character interaction. The absence of a great story arc didn't bother me that much.

The turning point came with DAII.

Modifié par abaris, 04 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[Il Divo]

Navasha wrote...

We will never know the numbers, but how many of you honestly said you would never buy ME3 because ME2 was such a horrendous failure after ME1, but then still bought ME3 anyway? \\.

However, I don't recall a 60k+ poll involving fans complaining that ME2 was the worst game since ET. I also don't recall within two weeks of ME2's release Bioware acknowledging the rabid feeback they had received.

Overall, whether or not this is a majority movement, the scale of this puts all the outcry against ME2 to shame. DLC is itself rarely purchased on the scale of the main game and its consumers are typically the most dedicated fans, meaning that the influence of those fans is amplified given the smaller consumer base. So if you have a huge portion of your dlc market saying "We want dlc X" and you give them dlc Y, they're not likely to be happy.

Modifié par Il Divo, 04 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[AlexMBrennan]

OP wrote...
Then what is the point of releasing any ME3 DLC?

To make more money.

[Taritu]

The backlash against DA2 definitely caused them to release less DLC. Remember, DAO got an expansion and much more DLC than DA2. The idea that this is "nothing but the normal whining" is incorrect, this is a much more than the whining at ME2 (I was here back then.) It is even more than DA2, and DA2 definitely took a hit due to the customer reactions.

That said, there will be DLC and they'll see how it does. If it makes enough money, they'll do more if the amount is more than whatever use they have for those Devs. Also bear in mind that every indication is that they already have DLC underway, partially completed (maybe even gone gold). That stuff is much less likely to be cancelled.

A lot will depend on if they fix the ending, and if they don't if people are serious about not buying. I can't think of any DLC I'd buy if the ending isn't fixed, even Retake Omega, which I'd love, but maybe they'll surprise me. I doubt it, though. OTOH, if they fix the ending, I'll likely buy every DLC except the MP (and maybe I'll get bored one day and play MP, so who knows.)

[BatmanPWNS]

Current EA and no DLC? Lol, imagine a world like that.

[Minimooo]

I know I'm essentially doomed to be disappointed considering the ending, but I will be disappointed if there is only pre-end DLC...

[zambingo]

I hope there is more Mass Effect, DLC or otherwise.

The 3's end(s) don't bother me... well okay Marauder Shields was full of ass, but the narrative wasn't an issue for me. I see possibilities.

DLC wise:

Another squadmate please! The Normandy's Life Support room is awkwardly empty. I'd buy more Kasumi! Lots and lots of Kasumi! Full on Kasumi expansion even! I miss her, "HAHA!" during battle. I'll take anyone though. Jar Jar Binks even!

I want Firewalker like stuff too. What happened to that pulsing Prothean orb?!

I want to buy the Collector Edition stuff! I missed out. Let me give you money now.

Also I want a beret! As a "helmet" and in casual wear. Also, side note, fix the neck clipping on the unisex Military Dress uniform and male Leather causal jacket! Also I want the style of alternate outfits that Kaidan and James get with From Ashes... the more clothing/fatigue styled combat gear! That's rad.

Fenris Mech battle power! It'd be rad to summon one as an engineer etc. It should be an option to replace the "loyalty" power slot.

[kbct]

Taritu wrote...
The backlash against DA2 definitely caused them to release less DLC. Remember, DAO got an expansion and much more DLC than DA2. The idea that this is "nothing but the normal whining" is incorrect, this is a much more than the whining at ME2 (I was here back then.) It is even more than DA2, and DA2 definitely took a hit due to the customer reactions.

Comparing polls between ME3 and DA2 provides one indication as to the size and severity of this mess.

The DA2 poll had about 1,700 votes. 47% liked the game.

The ME3 poll has about 70,600 votes. 2% liked the ending as-is.

The size and severity of the mess regarding the ME3 ending dwarfs the dissatisfaction with DA2 - at least on BSN.

[davidshooter]

I predict a DLC which has genuine new content as well as ending "clarification" - that way Bioware can defend the price of the "clarification" with the new content.

I also predict that "clarification" will be used by Mac and Casey as an opportunity to rehabilitate their reputations and to butress the "artistic value" of the original idea. In other words the "Ego Pack" for 800 points.

I further predict that any attempt at "clarification" will actually make the ending even worse.

Modifié par davidshooter, 04 avril 2012 - 04:25 .

[digby69]

davidshooter wrote...

I also predict that "clarification" will be used by Mac and Casey as an opportunity to rehabilitate their reputations and to butress the "artistic value" of the original idea. In other words the "Ego Pack" for 800 points.

It takes a very big person to admit they were wrong and then try and fix it.

[CELL55]

Change the ending or not, you can be sure that they will try.

[bluewolv1970]

DarkSideZin wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

There are usually enough idiots who will buy it, at least the fist time.

You may well be correct though ME3's planned DLC will be cut short.

That's the point... BW won't give a **** about it, because will be ALWAYS some idiots that buy anything from them. It's like giving corn to pigeons. Because of them, game companies will continue to do this type of bussines and no matter what **** they realease, every ****ing time they'll have idiots to consume their garbage.

that is not entirely tru as DA2 only released TWO dlc's total and cancelled an expansion due to the crappy product DA2 was

[Halfdan The Menace]

Heretic-LV wrote...

They shoot themselves in the leg, when made the ending we have right now. There is no use for pre-end DLC, as it doesn't change anything and just makes the agony even worse. Post-end DLC? What color would You like to see on screen?

All these talks gives meh a headache-diarrhea. If the indoctrination theory were true, it means that EA had the DLC planned for release all along and had been in their pocket all the time. I don't believe such a company would have crossed this sh*tstorm hitting them both in gaming and in mainstream press without releasing it and getting out of dire waters. I see that finals fail miserably plotwise, but technically they are coherent with the previous endings. They have non changing events (95% part of animations) and some degree of choice (pick your color)

*Rainbow color and ponies = happy ending*

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 04 avril 2012 - 04:50 .