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One reason Mass Effect 2 is better than Mass Effect 3?


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Blueprotoss wrote...

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"Small uproar" lol. Let me put it this way: If ME3 had been the first in the series I would not have purchased further installments. I gave my reasons in my previous novel of a post that you tried to refute. The ending sucked yes, but it was FAR from the only problem with ME3.

It seems like you haven't followed Bioware that much just like what happened with ME2.   It also seems likeyou wouldn't be here based on how much anger you have.  Btw its best not to railroad a topic.


I am in a holding pattern until EC comes out. Based on EC I will decide wether to leave the BSN or not and if I want to buy future BW games. BTW is English your first language?

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My best reason is:
Coalesced.bin was better to modify.... it was easier to set full automatic!
e.g. for the vindicator
spoilsport! Image IPB
The new and bad coded waepons makes me very very angry

That's the reason why i would like to destroy my DVD's from ME Universe!
Thumps Up for that REALLY *roll eyes* good episode *LOL*

Modifié par spk64, 22 juin 2012 - 03:22 .


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No matter how much supposedly-clarifying exposition and fanservice-oriented companion farewells the EC has, it's not going to change the fact that ME4 (whatever form it comes in) will be a second-rate Gears of War-Call of Duty wannabe close to totally stripped of its RPG elements.

So I don't really care about Bioware fixing the ending, since the series is going to continue no matter how good or bad ithe 'ending' is; but Bioware has got far more important things to address if the series is going to be worth playing anymore, and I would imagine that most people, wisely, gave up on that happening a few months ago.

Most people know that Bioware's modus opperandi is to continually lower the bar for themselves. They almost never improve on things-- particularly mechanics-- from a previous installment; they simply cut down (or throw things out completely) and then stick in half-assed versions of whatever is new and popular at the moment.

So, if the dialogue wheel has become a dialogue spoke, for instance, there is about zero chance that it is going to return to being a full wheel again.  Or, if most conversations are now auto-dialogue, there is about zero chance that the majority of dialogue from now on won't be auto-dialogue. Or, if they have cut talent-building down from a passably decent and fairly complicated affair that requires a little planning, down to a braindead consolized affair for six-year-olds, then there is about zero chance that it will return to its former self.  Or, if they took an inspired space-opera adventure game and decided it should be an absurd and cut-rate cover shooter clone with blood splatter on the screen and extreme dual-omni blade fatalities, then there's little chance it's going to stop being that.

Despite what the EA metrics department says or thinks, they aren't going to sell more copies making that sort of game.

People can forgive a stupid ending.  But they can't and won't overlook the rest of it.

Modifié par Rhalle, 22 juin 2012 - 07:46 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I was never hating ME2. I played ME1 several times and loved it, then ME2 came out and I was not disappointed at all, I loved it and beat it even more times than ME1. I thought it had even more replay value. Then ME3 comes around and I do my first and only pre-order ever and go to the midnight release to pick it up and was so disappointed. It wasn't anywhere near the same level as the first two. They took out or severely shaved down everything I loved about the previous games.

It sounds like the conclusion didn't please you, which thats perfectly fine while that sounds were most of the small uproar seems to stem from.  Conclusions are usually hard to do in trilogies especially when you have a choice system in a game like ME that affects everything in the series with one game, which is what happened with ME3.


"Small uproar"?

Ha, that's a kicker.

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So far, without any new DLC for ME3, I think ME2 is much better than ME3. If you agree, give one reason/example of why ME2 is better. I'm sure you can come up with more than one, but give your "top" reason.

Here's mine: ME2 much more strongly reflected the choices you made in ME1. For example, who you picked for counselor in ME1 plays a big role in ME2 (i.e. your Spectre status), unlike in ME3 where Udina magically just replaces Anderson...not to mention he has black hair now.

What do you think?


OMG! I never noticed his  hair went from gray to black! Guess they still dye hair in the future. However i too found it funny that i choose Anderson as my Counciler but he just dissapeared in the 3rd game and was on earth. Very non-canon to my playthrough. Someone mentioned the books reffering to Anderson hating the politics, im aware but did it mention the actual step down from the chair?

Also ME2 was awesome, its what got me into Mass Effect. The characters, the stories, the relationships you build and even the climax and dramatic betrayal of Cerberus not to mention the intense ending, along with even more DLC than a krogan can handle.

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It was better because I enjoyed it more. I still love ME1 and ME3, but I preferred ME2 for the simple reason of amusement.

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o Ventus wrote...

"Small uproar"?

Ha, that's a kicker.

Actually this is a small uproar just like the Game for Windows online service for the PC version of Dark Souls and the minor comestic sigil for the closed beta players that played DIablo 3.  Btw ME2 previously had a small uproar based on its focus on Shooter gameplay and DA also had one as well based on its KotOR/Neverwinter gameplay.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 juin 2012 - 07:29 .


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Squadmates. Everything about the squadmates. How many, who you are, your relationship with them, ect. ME3's squadmates suck really badly and it's the main reason why I have trouble enjoying it. Garrus will eventually get boring, and so will Ashley and Javik. Nobody else can get boring if they are to begin with.

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 Everything.

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I don't think ME 2 is better than ME 3 but there a few things I do miss about ME 2. I miss the heavy weapons. Granted I didn't use them that much but I used them and I liked having the option to use them whenever I wanted and I could pick which one I wanted to take with me on a specific mission if I wanted to. Also I miss having a Krogan squadmate. The Normandy just doesn't feel right without a krogan.

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xMellowhype wrote...

 Everything.



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Just started ME3. (latecomer to series, started ME1, 4 months ago). Mind-blowing cinematics at the beginning. Stunning visuals thus far!

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

"Small uproar"?

Ha, that's a kicker.

Actually this is a small uproar just like the Game for Windows online service for the PC version of Dark Souls and the minor comestic sigil for the closed beta players that played DIablo 3.  Btw ME2 previously had a small uproar based on its focus on Shooter gameplay and DA also had one as well based on its KotOR/Neverwinter gameplay.


I wasn't of the mindset that drawing attention from multiple media outlets (Even those that are wholly unrelated to gaming) and kicking up numerous mega sh*tstorms of controversy (Plus an $80,000 charity raise) was a "small uproar".

Modifié par o Ventus, 23 juin 2012 - 05:08 .


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I liked the interaction with with the characters, and how you built up the sucide team while also earning the trust of others. To me Mass Effect 2 did character interaction the best.

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o Ventus wrote...

I wasn't of the mindset that drawing attention from multiple media outlets (Even those that are wholly unrelated to gaming) and kicking up numerous mega sh*tstorms of controversy (Plus an $80,000 charity raise) was a "small uproar".

Game contraversies aren't anything new and charity was a bad message, which is why Penny Arcade closed it based on some people sending a bad message with their anger.  Anything in a game will cause a small uproar and its nothing new to an industry vet like Bioware.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I wasn't of the mindset that drawing attention from multiple media outlets (Even those that are wholly unrelated to gaming) and kicking up numerous mega sh*tstorms of controversy (Plus an $80,000 charity raise) was a "small uproar".

Game contraversies aren't anything new and charity was a bad message, which is why Penny Arcade closed it based on some people sending a bad message with their anger.  Anything in a game will cause a small uproar and its nothing new to an industry vet like Bioware.


PA closed the Child's Play charity because there was a misunderstanding with the rules of the charity, not because "it sent a bad message with their anger".

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Almighty_Hoogs wrote...

xMellowhype wrote...

 Everything.


*sigh* It aint that black and white.

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Basically, I enjoyed ME3 and think it has much better shooter elements than ME1. However, mechanically I think ME2 is the best of the series. Most fun to me, best difficulty settings.

Modifié par termokanden, 23 juin 2012 - 07:05 .


#219
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Just felt the ending for mass effect 2 was better everyone can live or die depending on what you do and who you choose for certain situations during the course of the mission character interaction a overall ending that doesn't leave you feeling like you failed or nothing you did mattered as cliche as it is me2 still has the better ending

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Well the ending to ME2 is sort of a non-ending. If I had to point out a favorite ending, it would probably be the one in ME1. You truly accomplished something even though it's not over yet.

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ME 2 did not ruin its own story and universe.

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Well I still feel the ending for me2 still beats 3 that and the motivational music ^^

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No insane amount of autodialogue.
No evident faults except for the whole space-jesus thing

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Oh I don't really disagree about that. I just felt somewhat weird about the ending to ME2. I loved every bit of the game, and at the same time if I think about it, not that much really happened in the MAIN plot. What I find really curious about it is that it didn't bug me that much. Normally I'd be really annoyed by that kind of thing. Perhaps it's because I liked the rest of the game a bit too much.

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ME2 was better, complete, coherent, and fun.

ME3 needs an EC to make sense of "things".

I really hope this are the things they wanted implement in the first place.