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#51
sindrie111

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The Qurian Engineer kinda sucks IMO, yet she's my favorite class/character, I wish they would give her a buff.

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What bothers me is that the QE doesn't have Energy Drain..... but... Tali does... *scratches head*. And the Mordin didn't have it.... and the QE has his powers... That confused me at first, but then I just shrugged, and moved on. O.o

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This thread is hilarious! LMAO! Quarian Engineer is my favorite character & I pulverize the Geth on silver. Armor piercing mod on my gun + maxed out Incinerate. I just mow the bastards down. And when I toss a turret the Geth Prime's don't stand a chance. I take down multiple Geth Prime's with no effort. And Brute's go down as fast as Cannibals.  I don't even use any equipment. Just Incinerate & the armor piercing mod.

Modifié par Steelgrave, 04 avril 2012 - 08:33 .


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Axialbloom

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Steelgrave wrote...

This thread is hilarious! LMAO! Quarian Engineer is my favorite character & I pulverize the Geth on silver. Armor piercing mod on my gun + maxed out Incinerate. I just mow the bastards down. And when I toss a turret the Geth Prime's don't stand a chance. I take down multiple Geth Prime's with no effort. And Brute's go down as fast as Cannibals.  I don't even use any equipment. Just Incinerate & the armor piercing mod.


Anything works on silver.  And I fail to see how primes do not stand a chance when you throw down a turret that dies instantly...

QE is the weakest there is.

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Regarding sentries,
-It survives A LOT longer if you:
1. Throw it behind enemies
2. Continuously freeze/incinerate stagger enemies

Even though QE is my all time favorite class, it really needs a buff. 

Tech skills got nothing on biotics :l

Modifié par toomainstream, 05 avril 2012 - 08:37 .


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In my opinion, they should replace cryo blast or incinerate with sabotage. That would make them at least passable against geth.

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They're not so bad against geth...in bronze matches anyways ; )

My Drell Vanguard, Turian Soldier, and Krogan Soldier all did worse in bronze. In fact, I've lost every match in which I used the Drell Vanguard. Simply didn't make much sense for something with such weak shields to charge right into the enemy.

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My quarian engineer with max shields flame turret & scorpion-only wielding would like to have a ****ing word with this topic. I. Never. Miss. Host or not. Silver or Gold.

Honestly the fire & ice combo is brilliant on top of having a flamethrower.

Honestly, add me on Origin and play with myself & my buddy Taucross. We doubleteam gold every single day with 25-30 minute matches. 

oh yah, origin id = AH-ChronoTrigga or handsock. Not sure if both work, cuz I just changed my original origin ID to AH-ChronoTrigga from handsock. xD

Modifié par ChronoTrigga, 05 avril 2012 - 08:29 .


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Axialbloom

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ChronoTrigga wrote...

My quarian engineer with max shields flame turret & scorpion-only wielding would like to have a ****ing word with this topic. I. Never. Miss. Host or not. Silver or Gold.

Honestly the fire & ice combo is brilliant on top of having a flamethrower.

Honestly, add me on Origin and play with myself & my buddy Taucross. We doubleteam gold every single day with 25-30 minute matches. 

oh yah, origin id = AH-ChronoTrigga or handsock. Not sure if both work, cuz I just changed my original origin ID to AH-ChronoTrigga from handsock. xD


You never miss?  What?

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KiraTsukasa wrote...

In my opinion, they should replace cryo blast or incinerate with sabotage. That would make them at least passable against geth.

I'd really dig a class with Sabotage + Incinerate like Infiltrator Shepard has. That +100% tech damage evolution is huge. 

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RazRei wrote...

SuperADJ wrote...

Tali might be the exception rather than the rule, though. I've just never thought of Quarians as especially good infantry. No doubt their technical brilliance would make their ships powerful, but the ME story has never painted Quarians who are in the thick of the fighting coming out of it very well. Except Tali, of course.


If we're all going to go RP in here Tali isn't the same engineer as the one you find in the MP.  She has Drones over DRONES over DRONES.  Not turrets.  

Another thing to consider while they might have the biggest fleet in the universe they're still weak compared to the:
  • military supriorty of Turians (Greatest fleet in the galaxy not the biggest)
  • Humans (who are the jack of all trades)
  • Asari the most advanced race and greatest biotics
  • Krogan the strongest physicaly and if look at the time when Salarians gave them tech they actually werent that bad
  • Salarian who are probably technical suprior to them with better off hand skill set
  • Then you have the created Geth who are advanced in technology even compared to the Salarian's and Asari, with a military might to back everything up.
So yeah...Quarians are nothing but shanty town gypsy's who go from one side of the map to the other.

I agree that the Quarians in the human era ME universe are pretty crap, with strengths in:
  • Maintaining ships
  • Repairing ships
  • Strip mining
IIRC they used to be one of the most advanced civilsations in the galaxy, on the verge of gaining a seat on the council. Pity they seem to have a knack for chooing idiots as leaders(both back then and now).

@OP, I don't really have any problems with the QE vs geth.

Modifié par Tangster, 05 avril 2012 - 08:43 .


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MatyrGustav

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I think the Quarian engineers abilities shoupd have been as listed.

Turret
Incinerate
Sabotage

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Maybe the long range rockets just work better than the flamethrower on the Geth (I use rockets, everyone else I see uses flame.)

Might also be that I know where to throw the turret. (On top of something, if possible. Or as far away from a common spawn point as possible, while maintaining LOS. Though some players screw that last up.)

Or it might be that the only weapon my Engineer carries is my best sniper rifle, and Geth have huge heads.

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With the way cryo explosions work (or don't work), I'm of the firm opinion the QE is the worst class in the game. Not just the worst at fighting Geth.

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Axialbloom wrote...

ChronoTrigga wrote...

My quarian engineer with max shields flame turret & scorpion-only wielding would like to have a ****ing word with this topic. I. Never. Miss. Host or not. Silver or Gold.

Honestly the fire & ice combo is brilliant on top of having a flamethrower.

Honestly, add me on Origin and play with myself & my buddy Taucross. We doubleteam gold every single day with 25-30 minute matches. 

oh yah, origin id = AH-ChronoTrigga or handsock. Not sure if both work, cuz I just changed my original origin ID to AH-ChronoTrigga from handsock. xD


You never miss?  What?


Meaning all of my scorpion shots have a purpose and taste for geth rape. Hell, the flame turret enjoys it so much it gets its flames everywhere.

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TygerHeart wrote...

Maybe the long range rockets just work better than the flamethrower on the Geth (I use rockets, everyone else I see uses flame.)

Might also be that I know where to throw the turret. (On top of something, if possible. Or as far away from a common spawn point as possible, while maintaining LOS. Though some players screw that last up.)

Or it might be that the only weapon my Engineer carries is my best sniper rifle, and Geth have huge heads.


You're probably on to something here. On the human's combat drone, I found the rocket upgrade to be infinitely better than the chain lightning upgrade. Only thing the flamethrower upgrade would really be useful for is massive damage on a clogged doorway.

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ChronoTrigga wrote...

My quarian engineer with max shields flame turret & scorpion-only wielding would like to have a ****ing word with this topic. I. Never. Miss. Host or not. Silver or Gold.

Honestly the fire & ice combo is brilliant on top of having a flamethrower.

Honestly, add me on Origin and play with myself & my buddy Taucross. We doubleteam gold every single day with 25-30 minute matches. 

oh yah, origin id = AH-ChronoTrigga or handsock. Not sure if both work, cuz I just changed my original origin ID to AH-ChronoTrigga from handsock. xD

How do you deal with shields?  I find the combo, while very fast to go from cryo to incinerate(or vice versa), isn't quite as strong given that the target actually needs to die for it to go off.  Bit of an issue against a Geth Prime or 3 with full shields or armor.  Found the Tech Burst goes off more frequently without a hitch.  Also, Cryo Blast doesn't do any damage by itself, so it would be impossible to set up a fire explosion by yourself.  Not a problem for an AA.

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PirateT138 wrote...

The turret needs a serious buff.  It's a very bad class.


Instead of the Anti Armor Bullet Upgrade it should have the Disruptor Rounds upgrade. That way you could employ the Turret as Shieldstripper. Armor is dealt with quick and dirty by chilling the enemy and then pounding it with incinerate.


That said... i would have loved to see Quarians with Energy Drain and Sabotage, the Salarian with Incinerate and Cryo. The Decoy has a shock upgrade that seems to work really good against shields (or maybe its just my imagination).

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Disappointed at the quarians in Mp for the simple fact that Energy Drain is not their main and exclusive power. No way of stripping shields.. really?

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My QE can stonewall all but the toughest waves (Read: Brute/Banshee rush) on silver by herself with her turret, but there's absolutely no way I'd take her on gold. The turret isn't meant to hold its own (which is a little silly considering how well the combat drone does on its own), it's meant to either provide support fire or an early warning detection system for unprotected flanks (hence the very unique firing noise).

Personally, I'd dump cryo blast. The turret has an upgrade for cryo ammo, so that covers that more or less. QEs could use overload/energy drain. It'd still provide possibilities for combos and they'll have some effectiveness on shields/barriers.

Problem is, then I'd have to sacrifice points in incinerate or my turret to have shieldstripping ability. My turret needs -every point it can get- to remain effective, and I certainly can't sacrifice fitness since health and shields on quarians are low-end as-is. Hrm. Decisions, decisions...

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for really help the qurians its just need to pick one of the alternatives:
- or, increase the aggro and the speed that the enemy takes to be distracted and attack the turret. Just like the fast answer that is with decoy.
- or, make a fire\\ice combo that DO NOT needs killing the target to work.
change the set power can be difficult, but make improvements can be donne easily.
I love my quarian engineer, but i know that i'm far from the other classes.

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It is kind of stupid how Decoy is better than all 3 of the QE's abilities combined, in Gold.

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ThatDamnSalarian wrote...

They lost the Morning War..But they WERE beating the Geth before they got Reaper upgrades during ME3. So yeah. They should definately be the best against Geth.

When does it say they were beating the geth? They made an assault and destroyed something that held alot of geth intelligence. Doesn't mean they were winning.

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Sacrificial Bias wrote...

ChronoTrigga wrote...

My quarian engineer with max shields flame turret & scorpion-only wielding would like to have a ****ing word with this topic. I. Never. Miss. Host or not. Silver or Gold.

Honestly the fire & ice combo is brilliant on top of having a flamethrower.

Honestly, add me on Origin and play with myself & my buddy Taucross. We doubleteam gold every single day with 25-30 minute matches. 

oh yah, origin id = AH-ChronoTrigga or handsock. Not sure if both work, cuz I just changed my original origin ID to AH-ChronoTrigga from handsock. xD

How do you deal with shields?  I find the combo, while very fast to go from cryo to incinerate(or vice versa), isn't quite as strong given that the target actually needs to die for it to go off.  Bit of an issue against a Geth Prime or 3 with full shields or armor.  Found the Tech Burst goes off more frequently without a hitch.  Also, Cryo Blast doesn't do any damage by itself, so it would be impossible to set up a fire explosion by yourself.  Not a problem for an AA.

Built properly the fire ability has a level 6 upgrade to cause extra damage to frozen/chilled targets so if you hit cryo first then fire then cryo then fire it'll drain stuff fast(er) :wizard:

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Cryo Incinerate combo does very, very little to shields.