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[Shepard Wins]

Catroi wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

KotOR 2. Anyone old enough will recall that one easily. Granted, who to blame was very clear back then, Obsidian got shafted with deadline cutbacks and had to release what had been completed at the time, but to this day fans are rebuilding the game from bits and pieces left over in its inhards.

And it was sad, because it was a much better RPG than ME3 could ever dream of being =(

What's good with KotOR 2 is that we have the real ending now thanks to the restauration mod (did you know that Obsidian asked Luxas Art the authorization to finish the game and release it through a patch and that they refused?)

Yeah, I heard about that. LucasArts is bonkers. Still, KotOR 2 had more closure than ME3, even in its unfinished state. At least we were given some info on the state of planets and characters, in the last conversation with Kreia.

[VAIOMANIAC]

After I was gutted by the BSG ending I accepted that ending because the majority of the show was so good.

I just think I could not deal with another disappointing ending like BSG anymore and that´s why I reacted so strongly as I did with the ME3 ending.

[fuellenbach]

First time for me as well.. that I personally reacted this emotional about an ending. Though Monkey Island II mentioned above came somewhat close. But it was still different. Here, in a way, 'I' was Shepard. This was 'my' personal experience. I never had such a strong attachement to a fictional character as my Shepard.

That is why the ending felt terrible. Because it hit me on a a very personal level. In other games, I could say, yeah, crappy ending ah well and move on. Here, I can't as easily.

Sure, their game, their story, they decide. But because of how they created the three games, how my Shepard behaved throughout the adventure, and all the emotions and connections being deliberately build up just to have them destroyed in the last 5 minutes... very depressing

[esideras]

ragecage559 wrote...

Just curious.

I have seen my fair share of bad endings over the years, but I have never been this upset to where I actually want them to change the endings. I'm thinking the majority of you don't typically get this upset over bad endings and like myself this is probably the first time you wanted to see something changed. 

I also would like to think that if everyone knew that this is probably the only thing we have ever got worked up about, it would shed that entitled label as well. 

If you have felt the sameway about something else and wanted something changed, be open about it.

Most of the time when I've seen bad endings, they atleast made sense.

[RogueState]

I was a little bit miffed about DA2's ending but I would really have to say no. I've never felt so let down by something that I actually felt genuine rage before!

I'm a very 'whatever' kind of guy about most things in life but for some reason this has really bugged me!

Modifié par Lordy12, 04 avril 2012 - 03:42 .

[ObsidianAgent]

I didn't get that bothered by the Fallout 3 ending but I did think it was idiotic when I asked Fawkes to go into the radioactive room and he said "No mate, that's your destiny." Bethesda had obviously anticipated you'd ask but then they come out with crap like that to railroad you. The Civ5 ending was craptacular too. Leonard Nimoy used to tell me I was the man, but all you get for a Space Race is a tiny animation and a dialog box.

But, honestly, the Mass Effect series had me hooked like no game in my life. For it to end like that was a disgrace.

[Noelemahc]

Eain wrote...
I sort of experience the same with DE:HR. Just standing there at the "press a button and solve the problem" console made me have a major dafuq moment.
Afterwards I was sort of annoyed.

ME3 is pretty much that to the tenth power.

DXHR has the excuse of having to fit in with the original DX perfectly.  Plus, it sorta-kinda was a shout-out to the ending of the original DX, so...

PLUS, it had a FOURTH option, one that made a lot more sense than the other three. ME3 lacks that option, even if it has the same final decision place layout to allow for it.

Torrible wrote...

I wish my life was so sheltered that a video game ending is the biggest crisis I had to face.

I specifically listed video game related events, not RL ones.

I'm sure nobody wants to know about the story of me unfrelling a girl's broken self-esteem and fear of social interaction after her first boyfriend's attempts at getting her interested in sex devolved into what was essentially rape; falling in love with the girl in the process and ending up in shambles myself as she, enjoying the results of eight months of brain fixing, ran out on me a week after proclaiming mutual love with a guy she met a few days prior. I got over it, but I still REALLY don't want to talk to her ever again.

Or how fun it is to discover your bisexuality in a country full of backwards bigots. Or a planet of backward bigots, to be honest.

Let's just not go there, okay? =)

Yeah, I heard about that. LucasArts is bonkers. Still, KotOR 2 had more
closure than ME3, even in its unfinished state. At least we were given
some info on the state of planets and characters, in the last
conversation with Kreia.

That, and the awesomeness that preceded it, basically caused my current love for Obsidian. And Alpha Protocol, of course. It was a rule-changer, DA2 and ME3 both shamelessly borrow design decisions from it.
Fallout New Vegas solidified that. Yes, Obsidian's games are glitchy, unfinished messes, but they do so many things SO RIGHT, that even the things that ARE wrong with them, they are still very much awesome.

So yeah, I'm kinda hoping Bryan Fargo gets them onboard for Wasteland 2. He's been talking about maybe reviving Black Isle, if Wasteland 2 is successful...

Modifié par Noelemahc, 04 avril 2012 - 03:44 .

[Beerfish]

Bad endings to otherwise fine games is very common with video games for some reason. However this was the worst for me as expectations were a lot higher. they went beyond, 'Well that was disappointing." and took it to a whole other level which is really too bad. I'm really enjoying my second play through right now but the feeling of dread is creeping in as I approach the end.

[Swordfishtrombone]

I haven't really cared enough to ask for a revision of the ending of any game/movie/tv-series before. It doesn't mean that I haven't disliked the endings of some of these before.

Bioware should take it as a compliment to their Mass Effect series that the fans of the series care enough about it to actually actively resist when it's been dragged through the mud by a woefully substandard ending.

[LaurenShepard-N7]

I usually get bored with TV shows long before the ending, because the first few seasons are good but then it's just filler after filler episode. I admit I'm new to playing Mass Effect but it's the only series that has captured my emotions (and attention) right up until the very end, that's why it's such a massive let down to see it end this way.

[LolaLei]

DA2 pissed me off quite a bit, but not to the extent that the ME3 endings have.

[ericjdev]

I don't do forums at all, it took this games ending to get me to interact with other people on the interwebs. I've been disappointed with ending before but never experienced anything that compares to this. It was just utterly soul crushing for me, was seriously depressed for about a week.

[Xandurpein]

I really hated the ending to Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, for similar reasons to that in Mass Effect 3. Kelemvor was a ****-head and his arguments hollow, just like the Starchild, but in the end you just had to bow to him and give up. I was never as emotionally invested in NWN2 as in Mass Effect though, so I didn't end up as upset about it.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 04 avril 2012 - 03:50 .

[Azrael08151819]

Never ever before.

[xcomcmdr]

Lordy12 wrote...

I was a little bit miffed about DA2's ending but I would really have to say no. I've never felt so let down by something that I actually felt genuine rage before!

I'm a very 'whatever' kind of guy about most things in life but for some reason this has really bugged me!

[Anzer]

thekelvman wrote...

Enslaved was a decent game with a bad ending. Not that it needed to be changed, but there should've been an epilogue scene. It would've made it 10x better and possibly could've kept it from tanking in sales. I know I didn't recommend it to anyone after I saw that ending.

I thought the ending to Enslaved was great. Not as happy-go-lucky as most other games are, but quite good and got you thinking about what was going to happen to everyone.

I guess that's the difference between people who liked the ending and people who didn't. Whether you want to think about what happens to everyone or whether you want to be told what happens to everyone. I'm not saying that one way or another is the "correct" way, just that different people have different ways of thinking.

[link33333]

Felt similar when I saw The Last Air Bender movie, but thats mostly because I loved the animated series and they butchered the movie and I have never been able to let it go.

[BigEvil]

Nothing has ever gotten to me in such a negative way as the ME3 ending and I didn't think anything ever would. I considered myself too cynical and sarcastic to truly reach such levels of disappointment, disbelief, confusion and hate.

Mostly I take things in stride, laughing off bad endings, but there was something about this which got to me. I can't say that I was heavily invested from the beginning, from the release of ME1, because back then I had an old PC so I didn't play either ME1 or 2 until 2010. Two years of becoming invested in the franchise and those last ten minutes... that's what ruins it.

[JayneD]

Mass Effect was not just another game like everything else I have ever played.

Yet I find it odd that I like a game as much as Mass Effect that has such mediocre gameplay, but I guess that's the power of storytelling.

[BWGungan]

Never. I have never felt so good about a series only to have it ruined in the end.

I've felt dissapointed with some installments of a series because they weren't great overall, but there has never been a series so consistently strong as ME, which committed storytelling suicide at the close.

Modifié par BWGungan, 04 avril 2012 - 04:10 .

[mrmarcus101]

Xandurpein wrote...

I really hated the ending to Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, for similar reasons to that in Mass Effect 3. Kelemvor was a ****-head and his arguments hollow, just like the Starchild, but in the end you just had to bow to him and give up. I was never as emotionally invested in NWN2 as in Mass Effect though, so I didn't end up as upset about it.

And it wasn't much better than NWN2's original campaign's ending of "Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies."

[BWGungan]

link33333 wrote...

Felt similar when I saw The Last Air Bender movie, but thats mostly because I loved the animated series and they butchered the movie and I have never been able to let it go.

Sure, but you could tell it was a mediocre movie from the get go.  It didn't just suddenly start sucking in the final battle.

[Mushufasa1512]

KOTOR 2 was the only thing that came remotely close. Even then I just sort of shrugged and moved on. I've been fairly obsessive over the whole ME thing.

[x0 Misfit 0x]

Nope, not even with KOTOR 2, because even that had some closure.
It wasn't like KOTOR 2 or NWN 2 (to the best of my knowledge) promised closure to the protagonist and Co. from three games and an ending that would make those choices count...did it?

Modifié par x0 Misfit 0x, 04 avril 2012 - 04:17 .

[Vhalkyrie]

DA2. Bioware didn't listen to upset fans then either. They canceled plans for expansion pack due to lack of interest.