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[wetnasty]

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

[SCK barman]

no

[Grasich]

I don't see the point. DA2 was a massive step down from DA:O. If it gets really great user reviews, then maybe I'll get it when the price drops, but other than that, no.

[SiriusXI]

I won't buy anything from Bioware/EA anymore. I still might play DA3, though

[streamlock]

I"m pretty sure EAware will be added to the list of never again companies. I doubt anything EAware says at PAX will change that. Though I do hold out some small bit of hope.

ME3 was the only thing that got me to install Origin. I'm not sorry to have to ditch it and never look at it again.

Also....Even though I did not jump on the BF3 bandwagon, EA pulled one of the biggest 'on my crap list' moves in the book (my book at least). They took a competitive multiplayer game and let people buy there way into it. Totally negating the time and effort people put in to acquire weapons/kits whatever.

That is a big-big no no in my book.

I'm not saying I won't down the line pick up a Bioware title out of the bargain bin or something. $10 bucks for a ultimate edition or some such a couple years down the line-then hack out the Origin requirements. But that is about it. Probably not even DA3. I'm not interested in playing DA2 if someone gave it to me for free.

[Grasich]

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

What?

ME1: You kill Saren, Sovereign blows up. Very little room for speculation.

ME2: Collector base blows up/gets taken by Cerberus, huge Reaper fleet is coming. Very little room for speculation.

ME3: WTF JUST HAPPENED?

[JPR1964]

Sywen wrote...

I'll probably wait until I see actual player reviews.

me too

JPR out!

[JPR1964]

Grasich wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

What?

ME1: You kill Saren, Sovereign blows up. Very little room for speculation.

ME2: Collector base blows up/gets taken by Cerberus, huge Reaper fleet is coming. Very little room for speculation.

ME3: WTF JUST HAPPENED?

+1

ME1 and 2 give rooms for more adventures, but never let you speculate anything about a bunch of plotholes...

JPR out!

[chuckwells62]

I enjoy both Dragon Age games. They are each unique experiences in their own right, and frankly I've never understood the vitriol the second game received. Its like some fans can't pick their battles, and always have to nitpick.

We live in an era of anonymous online fan-fiction in a wide variety of formats where if every single facet of someones specific interpretation of a popular game isn't EXACTLY up to snuff, then burning the house down is the only response.

I agree with those fans that accept that the Dragon Age development team is separate from the Mass Effect development team - under the same company roof - and refuse to lump both franchises together.

After a month of constant media chatter over public blowback from ME3, I've come to the conclusion that despite sharing the impression of the ending[s] with the most vocal contingent of fans, that what I would most like to understand about how the finale of Mass Effect 3 came about is why the game ending breaks with what the key people stated about the expected conclusion prior to release and why they refuse to explain their reasons for pulling a fast one on us.

That answer may not be provided. Artistic integrity aside, when corporations circle the wagons you may as well side with the savages who wanna burn those suckers out. Doesn't mean that I'm abandoning Dragon Age in response.

[Hendrik.III]

No. Judging by what they managed to f*** up with ME, they already went silly with DA2 imo, I have no faith DA3 can actually surpass DA:O or tie up everything that happened.

It will have to be the most awesome, most brilliant, most prefect game EVER - if they want me to buy it. We've seen how a deadline can destroy a trilogy.

[wetnasty]

Grasich wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

What?

ME1: You kill Saren, Sovereign blows up. Very little room for speculation.

ME2: Collector base blows up/gets taken by Cerberus, huge Reaper fleet is coming. Very little room for speculation.

ME3: WTF JUST HAPPENED?

and ME3: You defeat the Reapers. Neither the ME1 ending or the ME2 ending end with any sort of hint toward the future. They're entirely based on the present. And defeating the reapers was the present.

[Miphious]

I'll be waiting until after the first batch of people report on the ending before I think about buying the game. Definitely not going to buy anymore pre-orders from Bioware. DA 2 burned me now ME 3 and I can't risk that much money on a shaky company.

[Creston918]

No.

Of course, I was already skipping DA3 because of the crap that was DA2.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Without a doubt. No one makes em like bioware, until they do i'm sticking with them.

[Skyblade012]

TheJediSaint wrote...

Probably, Dragon Age is done by a completely different development team. It's not their fault ME3 had a nonsensical ending.

You mean, the team that gave us the gem that was DAII.  Yay, trust.

Sorry, no.

One company, one pocketbook.  They want my money, they can bloody well earn it by selling me what I want.

[Keldaurz]

wetnasty wrote...

Grasich wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

What?

ME1: You kill Saren, Sovereign blows up. Very little room for speculation.

ME2: Collector base blows up/gets taken by Cerberus, huge Reaper fleet is coming. Very little room for speculation.

ME3: WTF JUST HAPPENED?

and ME3: You defeat the Reapers. Neither the ME1 ending or the ME2 ending end with any sort of hint toward the future. They're entirely based on the present. And defeating the reapers was the present.

No, you don't defeat the reapers, you do reaper's job. That's the Wtf just happened moment.

If the kid started to sing trolololol it would had made more sense.

[gedux999]

Nope,

not after got burned with ME3.

[TUHD]

Grasich wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

What?

ME1: You kill Saren, Sovereign blows up. Very little room for speculation.

ME2: Collector base blows up/gets taken by Cerberus, huge Reaper fleet is coming. Very little room for speculation.

ME3: WTF JUST HAPPENED?

++
Agreed. With 1 I had the feeling, 'Oh yeah, somewhere in the future we'll kick Reaper ass!'
2: 'Okay. Strange opening, but w/e. Next time, we'll kill the Reapers for sure!'
3: 'Uh... is this supposed to be the end or what? But I've got a gazillion questions left!'

Edit: Questions, not quests :innocent:

Modifié par TUHD, 04 avril 2012 - 04:59 .

[bluewolv1970]

at release? not a chance of it

[Yakko77]

I loved both Dragon Age games though I know there was a fair amount of rage at DA2 for the bugs (especially for PS3 players). I will most likely buy DA3 though I can honestly say I will likely NOT be pre-ordering it or buying a CE version. I will wait for some trustworthy fan written reviews (not IGN reviews). DA is an interesting and enjoyable lore and saga to play through but my confidence is somewhat shaken right now so I'm going to enter any future BW games with a considerable amount of caution. I wish it weren't so but the near bulletproof BW that made KOTOR, Jade Empire, DA:O and ME is seemingly not so bulletproof anymore when nonsensical writing is used in the ending for ME3. The human Reaper in ME2 was...meh. Didn't hate it but wasn't ecstatic about it either but the rest of the game made up for it in sheer enjoyability and epicness. DA2 had a lot of technical issues that were eventually fixed and I did enjoy it but it just seemed a missed opportunity. It was a good game that could've been great IMO. That and I really didn't like either side you're forced to chose from. I only side with the mages either because I was a mage or to defend the sister. ME3 came out of no where in its epic fail. The game was 9.5-10 out of 10... till the last 5-10 minutes. No closure. No clarification. No sense. Seriously, did George Lucas write that last part?

[Jere85]

If they fix the ME3 endings, hell yeah, i didnt mind da2 unlike others, ofc 1 was better, still enjoyed da2's experience. da3 wont be different i think. If the endings dont get fixed, EA and BW wont exist for me anymore. Make me trust you again guys...

[Skyblade012]

wetnasty wrote...

Yes. Dragon Age endings have always given me more closure.


I don't know why so many people are surprised by the ME3 endings though. Mass Effect endings have NEVER given closure and always been left up to speculation. This is not news.

There is a difference between "no closure", and deus ex machina, more plotholes in the last 10 minutes than in the entire rest of the series, destruction of character traits, abandonment of themes, a complete tonal swap, abandonment of the main conflict, a sudden introduction of bad symbology into a literal scene, complete destruction of the universe, and some blatant ripping off.

Also, Mass Effect was always meant as a trilogy.  Dragon Age was not.  Part 3 should have had more closure.

[Crystal9487]

Not me.... After the dissapointment that was DA2, I'm just going to wait for independent reviews. The ME3 mess just cements my thoughts that EA's influence over Bioware is messing up the quality of their games.......

[GIVic05]

Did not play DA2. And no for DA3.

[shnellegaming]

No, will not buy the collector's editions anymore either.