ReggarBlane wrote...
If she's not involved with BW for this, then EA's telling the truth that they're not adding or changing endings. BW will obey.
DreamTension wrote...
Take it however you want, but Ms. Hale was quoted here:
The article says, "Hale says she knows nothing of what's coming in the new content that BioWare CEO Ray Muzyka says will address people's complaints over the game's ending. She hasn't been contacted by the team, hasn't had a recording session, or been given any indication that she will be needed for this new content"
Some quotes:
"I have mixed feelings about [the prospect of a new ending]," she admits. "I really respect the team and what they did and how hard they worked. And endings are hard! They're cutting new ground; the players are so involved in this game that to come up with an ending to something everyone's got their hand in is a huge challenge."
"So maybe it's going to take a little work to get everything sorted in a way that's going to make everybody happy."When asked if she had any idea how developer Bioware might respond if fans don't care for the second stab at the ending, Hale laughed and said: "I don't know. Thank God I'm not a writer!"
humes spork wrote...
FO3 is to date the first and only game in the FO series, spinoffs included, to have a playable epilogue, by the way. FO2 only had an interactive ending, opposed to a fully-realized playable epilogue in the conventional sense. I "thank" the people that expected post-apocalytpic Elder Scrolls for that.The Angry One wrote...
Also, it did change it significantly solely because you lived.
At the time it was made, the protagonist dying was a big deal for Bethesda. Yes, there was the option to have what's her face die instead but the game basically attacked you for taking this option.
So changing this was a big change in the plot and theme of Fallout 3, after Bethesda realised it just didn't work.
And, even in BS the game called you a great big puss if you sent Lyons, or the rad-immune companions, in Project Purity nevertheless.
Orthodox Infidel wrote...
byne wrote...
Capeo wrote...
A twist makes everything that came before it in the plot wrong or misleading intentionally.
Everyone you meet tells you Revan is dead. Suddenly it turns out nope, you're Revan.
I fail to see how that isnt 'intentionally misleading'
It's intentionally misleading, but once the reveal happened, it made perfect sense. If you go back and play KOTOR again, it's clear that all the Jedi Masters know that you're really Revan, and that they're talk about the "Dark Lord returning" is from "a certain point of view."
If the Mass Effect 3 ending is a "twist," then what's the explanation that makes perfect sense for the ending? There isn't one. "Indoctrination Theory" doesn't count because it's a total muddle. Compare that to KOTOR's actual twist: Everyone who played KOTOR knows that the player is Revan, and it's presented so clearly that nobody questions it after finishing the game.
DreamTension wrote...
Take it however you want, but Ms. Hale was quoted here:
The article says, "Hale says she knows nothing of what's coming in the new content that BioWare CEO Ray Muzyka says will address people's complaints over the game's ending. She hasn't been contacted by the team, hasn't had a recording session, or been given any indication that she will be needed for this new content"
Orthodox Infidel wrote...
byne wrote...
Capeo wrote...
A twist makes everything that came before it in the plot wrong or misleading intentionally.
Everyone you meet tells you Revan is dead. Suddenly it turns out nope, you're Revan.
I fail to see how that isnt 'intentionally misleading'
It's intentionally misleading, but once the reveal happened, it made perfect sense. If you go back and play KOTOR again, it's clear that all the Jedi Masters know that you're really Revan, and that they're talk about the "Dark Lord returning" is from "a certain point of view."
If the Mass Effect 3 ending is a "twist," then what's the explanation that makes perfect sense for the ending? There isn't one. "Indoctrination Theory" doesn't count because it's a total muddle. Compare that to KOTOR's actual twist: Everyone who played KOTOR knows that the player is Revan, and it's presented so clearly that nobody questions it after finishing the game.
ReggarBlane wrote...
If she's not involved with BW for this, then EA's telling the truth that they're not adding or changing endings. BW will obey.
They gave him full access. This is what people don't get. BW loved the endings. They've had them planned this way for ages. They were expecting nothing but accolades from the fans. They weren't worried about hiding their "brilliance".
There is no conspiracy afoot, no hidden ending and no new ending coming. The game is done as far as BW is concerned. The most we may get is some "clarifying" epilogues that likely won't even have VA.
Quietness wrote...
You forgot Prince of Persia as well.
Modifié par DarkShadow, 04 avril 2012 - 05:59 .
Animositisomina wrote...
It's an old quote though, from about a month ago, prior to this article.
The Angry One wrote...
Well you never know, maybe Hale has already recorded lines where Shepard has told the Catalyst to spin on it in various colourful ways and since she hasn't played ME3, has no idea why people are upset with this awesome ending.
Maybe.
Possibly.
....
Please.
Most of the NPC's in FO2 switched to their epilogue dialog after you trashed the oil rig, and post-story gameplay was extremely limited.The Angry One wrote...
In that sense neither did Morrowind or Oblivion. They technically did with their expansions, but you could do those before the end of the main quest.
Likewise with Fallout 2 you could still do other quests you missed in the post-game.
Angry, stop with the tears! Look at you! You sound like Shepard in current "endings" - defeated and broken. We need you in the front line goddammit!The Angry One wrote...
Well you never know, maybe Hale has already recorded lines where Shepard has told the Catalyst to spin on it in various colourful ways and since she hasn't played ME3, has no idea why people are upset with this awesome ending.
Maybe.
Possibly.
....
Please.
Aweus wrote...
Angry, stop with the tears! Look at you! You sound like Shepard in current "endings" - defeated and broken. We need you in the front line goddammit!The Angry One wrote...
Well you never know, maybe Hale has already recorded lines where Shepard has told the Catalyst to spin on it in various colourful ways and since she hasn't played ME3, has no idea why people are upset with this awesome ending.
Maybe.
Possibly.
....
Please.
DreamTension wrote...
Capeo wrote...
How many BW games have you played? Name one with a "twist". They're not known for secret or M. Knight style endings at all.
Whoaaa....now you just lost me.
that's the one thing they are known for, their twists. KOTOR, DA, etc...they all have twists.
Now ENDING TWISTS? Well...I am not sure if these would be ending twists. I don't think ANYBODY has done an ending twist like this so that's not really a good point.
byne wrote...
Aweus wrote...
Angry, stop with the tears! Look at you! You sound like Shepard in current "endings" - defeated and broken. We need you in the front line goddammit!The Angry One wrote...
Well you never know, maybe Hale has already recorded lines where Shepard has told the Catalyst to spin on it in various colourful ways and since she hasn't played ME3, has no idea why people are upset with this awesome ending.
Maybe.
Possibly.
....
Please.
I didnt even realize that was The Angry One until you pointed it out.
Angry, stop changing your picture, I am easily confused!
Taboo-XX wrote...
THIS ARTICLE IS A MONTH OLD.
THE GAME WAS RELEASED ALMOST A MONTH AGO.
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