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[Addai]

Hellbound555 wrote...
EA's strategy: Get us hooked on a game, then price gouge and jack up the prices when we're enjoying it......?

They're not gouging.  They're charging.

*audience laughter*

[136898967012]

f0rmaldehyde wrote...

Imagine you own a cupcake shop. Everyone loves your cupcakes. Business is good and there are hundreds of fatties who sink hundreds of dollars into your business everytime you make a new cupcake. Then...one day you decide to make a speciality fish cupake. You mix that fish into your delicious batter thinking to yourself "this is so artsy and amazing. Everyone is going to love it!" You decide to release the fish cupcake with three different types of fish.

grand opening night everyone hates your fish cupcakes. You try to explain to them that there are different flavoured fish cupcakes but everyone insists that you executed your new cupcake venture poorly in light of your previous overwhelming success. Your cupcake fans still feel like despite the fact that they are eating different fish, its still fish and it tastes like butt.

Indignantly you tell everyone who doesnt like the fish cupcakes to get out as they are too inferior to understand the deeper meaning of the fish cupcake. Its surely THEIR fault. Later in the week cupcake sales plummet, but still those fish cupcakes are at the front of your cupcake display cabinet. Is it possible you made a terrible mistake? NO! of course not!

Later, the cupcake shop is voted worst shop in the mall. Ppssst. They dont know anything. Clearly they know nothing about cupcakes. Months pass, the cupcake store closes as its patrons have all left except a couple of weird kids that pay each other to eat the fish cupcakes, and one or two hipsters who think that the fish cupcakes have a deeper meaning akin to their favourite song. A few days ago in a final act of desperation you brought back the good old cupcakes everyone loved but still nobody came, the foul texture of fishy-cupcake still lingering in their mouths. A final last ditch effort to keep your doors from closing.

moral to the story: dont put fish in cupcakes.

Oh god, my sides.

[barenas]

Just shows how insular the voters of that poll or whatever it was are. EA is small time compared to a lot of the big corporations out there. I mean, how was Halliburton not even in that list?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

EA Games ... Challenge Everything *pews*!

[Farbautisonn]

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

UnstableMongoose wrote... It's because not enough people want to spend the effort to be reasonable, respectful, and patient about this problem getting fixed.

-It worked well with DA2.
-it worked well with the Bazaar for the intl customers.
-it worked well with Deception which still sells as is, with no news 1½ months after a revision was "promised".
-it has worked well with ME3 so far.

So... tell us again how "reasonably, respectfull and patient helps getting problems fixed" as it were? 

You have assumed a causation when all you have is correlation by implying that your poor behavior got things changed earlier. Human nature being what it is, you're almost guaranteed to be the opposite of correct. If you you want someone to fix a problem, telling them what the problem is using a methodology a rational human being can understand is more likely to get results.

Sarcasm dosnt translate well. Oh ok. Ill spell it out.

Nothing came from our first reasonable and critical postings with DA2, the Bazaar,  Deception or ME3.

DA2 still has bugs and issues that mods / devs promised they would look into. Most shut up. Nothing happened and no follow up postings from the Devs were made.

International clients were promised "something". A year later. Nada. But they were "listening". However nothing happened and no follow up postings were made.

Deception was hammered by everyone, even fans, despite Bioware ME devs praising it. Bioware then said they had "listened" and were doing something about it. However nothing happened and no follow up postings were made.

As for ME3 all we have so far is hot air and "we are listening".

Did you ever read "The boy who cried: wolf".

[Ham Solo]

barenas wrote...

Just shows how insular the voters of that poll or whatever it was are. EA is small time compared to a lot of the big corporations out there. I mean, how was Halliburton not even in that list?

They already won in a previous year.
Also this poll is just a joke to poke fun at the currently most hated (not worst) companies.
It isn't something to take serious, this isn't like voting for a political party.

I mean they give out golden poo to the "winner". How can that cause such a debate? Do you really think it's important that BOA doesn't get a figurine of a golden poo?

[HoonDing]

barenas wrote...

Just shows how insular the voters of that poll or whatever it was are. EA is small time compared to a lot of the big corporations out there. I mean, how was Halliburton not even in that list?

Video games are serious business.

[Seagloom]

Skelter192 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...
Then watch sites like Kotaku or IGN fellate them for not only listening to "entitled, whiny gamers", but also offering them an olive branch in the form of discounted games.

Heh, Kotaku already wrote a couple "is EA really so bad?" articles today.

Kotaku is so childish. 

Next to their "gamers are sexist" article you'll see a cosplay with a barely clothed woman.

It's not a surprise. Gawker sites value hits above all else. Some of their contributors will post anything they think will land tons of page views--even if it's not entirely keeping within a particular site's theme. Supporting EA right after they win this dubious honor? Likely controversial enough to get more hits.

Modifié par Seagloom, 05 avril 2012 - 10:58 .

[rizuno]

Volourn wrote...

"But when it comes to buying games, big publishers like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft control huge swathes of the market. If I want a specific service (i.e. a specific game) then I have no choice. If I want to play ME3, for instance, I have to deal with EA, I have to use their download client, and I have to accept the terms of their EULA with no option for negotiation."

You have tons of chocies in the gaming industry. EA is a big company but there are tons of competitors including both other big companies as well as smaller less known ones. It's gaming. You don't need it.

Then again, I laugh at those who voted for EA since most likely the majority of thsoe who did likely played and enjoyed at least one EA game in the past year. Hypocrites much? If EA is so awful why do you buy and play their games? It is so stupid.

Let's get one thing straight, I gon't buy EA games, I buy games from companies that EA owns.  i.e., BioWare.  It creates a lovely fine little sticking point that sucks major a**

[Dakota Strider]

f0rmaldehyde wrote...

Imagine you own a cupcake shop. Everyone loves your cupcakes. Business is good and there are hundreds of fatties who sink hundreds of dollars into your business everytime you make a new cupcake. Then...one day you decide to make a speciality fish cupake. You mix that fish into your delicious batter thinking to yourself "this is so artsy and amazing. Everyone is going to love it!" You decide to release the fish cupcake with three different types of fish.

grand opening night everyone hates your fish cupcakes. You try to explain to them that there are different flavoured fish cupcakes but everyone insists that you executed your new cupcake venture poorly in light of your previous overwhelming success. Your cupcake fans still feel like despite the fact that they are eating different fish, its still fish and it tastes like butt.

Indignantly you tell everyone who doesnt like the fish cupcakes to get out as they are too inferior to understand the deeper meaning of the fish cupcake. Its surely THEIR fault. Later in the week cupcake sales plummet, but still those fish cupcakes are at the front of your cupcake display cabinet. Is it possible you made a terrible mistake? NO! of course not!

Later, the cupcake shop is voted worst shop in the mall. Ppssst. They dont know anything. Clearly they know nothing about cupcakes. Months pass, the cupcake store closes as its patrons have all left except a couple of weird kids that pay each other to eat the fish cupcakes, and one or two hipsters who think that the fish cupcakes have a deeper meaning akin to their favourite song. A few days ago in a final act of desperation you brought back the good old cupcakes everyone loved but still nobody came, the foul texture of fishy-cupcake still lingering in their mouths. A final last ditch effort to keep your doors from closing.

moral to the story: dont put fish in cupcakes.

One thing I would add to the story:  This once loved cupcake shop's owners sold controlling interest to  the big cookie factory, that had been acquiring all sorts of candy and other sorts of specialty treat stores throughout the land.  And for some strange reason, all these various desert/treat stores products and appearance started to all look the same.

[Godak]

Seagloom wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...
Then watch sites like Kotaku or IGN fellate them for not only listening to "entitled, whiny gamers", but also offering them an olive branch in the form of discounted games.

Heh, Kotaku already wrote a couple "is EA really so bad?" articles today.

Kotaku is so childish. 

Next to their "gamers are sexist" article you'll see a cosplay with a barely clothed woman.

It's not a surprise. Gawker sites value hits above all else. Some of their contributors will post anything they think will land tons of page views--even if it's not entirely keeping within a particular site's theme. Supporting EA right after they win this dubious honor? Likely controversial enough to get more hits.

...Though it could be honest (hits are a, uh, motivator).

EA worse than companies performing indisputably illegal activities causing people to lose their homes? Hell, EA worse than other game companies? Bull.

Modifié par Godak, 05 avril 2012 - 07:23 .

[Merilsell]

f0rmaldehyde wrote...

Imagine you own a cupcake shop. Everyone loves your cupcakes. Business is good and there are hundreds of fatties who sink hundreds of dollars into your business everytime you make a new cupcake. Then...one day you decide to make a speciality fish cupake. You mix that fish into your delicious batter thinking to yourself "this is so artsy and amazing. Everyone is going to love it!" You decide to release the fish cupcake with three different types of fish.

grand opening night everyone hates your fish cupcakes. You try to explain to them that there are different flavoured fish cupcakes but everyone insists that you executed your new cupcake venture poorly in light of your previous overwhelming success. Your cupcake fans still feel like despite the fact that they are eating different fish, its still fish and it tastes like butt.

Indignantly you tell everyone who doesnt like the fish cupcakes to get out as they are too inferior to understand the deeper meaning of the fish cupcake. Its surely THEIR fault. Later in the week cupcake sales plummet, but still those fish cupcakes are at the front of your cupcake display cabinet. Is it possible you made a terrible mistake? NO! of course not!

Later, the cupcake shop is voted worst shop in the mall. Ppssst. They dont know anything. Clearly they know nothing about cupcakes. Months pass, the cupcake store closes as its patrons have all left except a couple of weird kids that pay each other to eat the fish cupcakes, and one or two hipsters who think that the fish cupcakes have a deeper meaning akin to their favourite song. A few days ago in a final act of desperation you brought back the good old cupcakes everyone loved but still nobody came, the foul texture of fishy-cupcake still lingering in their mouths. A final last ditch effort to keep your doors from closing.

moral to the story: dont put fish in cupcakes.

This is so much WIN!

[Ham Solo]

f0rmaldehyde wrote...

Imagine you own a cupcake shop. Everyone loves your cupcakes. Business is good and there are hundreds of fatties who sink hundreds of dollars into your business everytime you make a new cupcake. Then...one day you decide to make a speciality fish cupake. You mix that fish into your delicious batter thinking to yourself "this is so artsy and amazing. Everyone is going to love it!" You decide to release the fish cupcake with three different types of fish.

grand opening night everyone hates your fish cupcakes. You try to explain to them that there are different flavoured fish cupcakes but everyone insists that you executed your new cupcake venture poorly in light of your previous overwhelming success. Your cupcake fans still feel like despite the fact that they are eating different fish, its still fish and it tastes like butt.

Indignantly you tell everyone who doesnt like the fish cupcakes to get out as they are too inferior to understand the deeper meaning of the fish cupcake. Its surely THEIR fault. Later in the week cupcake sales plummet, but still those fish cupcakes are at the front of your cupcake display cabinet. Is it possible you made a terrible mistake? NO! of course not!

Later, the cupcake shop is voted worst shop in the mall. Ppssst. They dont know anything. Clearly they know nothing about cupcakes. Months pass, the cupcake store closes as its patrons have all left except a couple of weird kids that pay each other to eat the fish cupcakes, and one or two hipsters who think that the fish cupcakes have a deeper meaning akin to their favourite song. A few days ago in a final act of desperation you brought back the good old cupcakes everyone loved but still nobody came, the foul texture of fishy-cupcake still lingering in their mouths. A final last ditch effort to keep your doors from closing.

moral to the story: dont put fish in cupcakes.

Amazing!

[SKELETON HARVESTER]

Volourn wrote...

"But when it comes to buying games, big publishers like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft control huge swathes of the market. If I want a specific service (i.e. a specific game) then I have no choice. If I want to play ME3, for instance, I have to deal with EA, I have to use their download client, and I have to accept the terms of their EULA with no option for negotiation."

You have tons of chocies in the gaming industry. EA is a big company but there are tons of competitors including both other big companies as well as smaller less known ones. It's gaming. You don't need it.

Then again, I laugh at those who voted for EA since most likely the majority of thsoe who did likely played and enjoyed at least one EA game in the past year. Hypocrites much? If EA is so awful why do you buy and play their games? It is so stupid.

I don't understand what makes you think this line of thought is exceptable.
If people didn't play their games then how else could they know that EA is terrible at making them? And plus enjoying 1 game out of 20 in a year is less than a 1% satisfactory grade.

That's a failure if there ever was one.

[Godak]

SKELETON HARVESTER wrote...

I don't understand what makes you think this line of thought is exceptable.
If people didn't play their games then how else could they know that EA is terrible at making them? And plus enjoying 1 game out of 20 in a year is less than a 1% satisfactory grade.

That's a failure if there ever was one.

What makes you think it's unacceptable? What makes you think it's a failure? If you think EA generally makes crappy games, why buy them to see if they are crappy? If you go into a purchase expecting something, get precisely what you expect, and then blame said company for giving you what you expected (crap), aren't you the one at fault?

[bEVEsthda]

Volourn wrote...
You have tons of chocies in the gaming industry. EA is a big company but there are tons of competitors including both other big companies as well as smaller less known ones. It's gaming. You don't need it.

Then again, I laugh at those who voted for EA since most likely the majority of thsoe who did likely played and enjoyed at least one EA game in the past year. Hypocrites much? If EA is so awful why do you buy and play their games? It is so stupid.

We don't get to choose. No matter where we turn, EA follows. And by this 'assimilate all Borg' -strategy, they're maybe not ruining just games, but ruining an entire industry. They're artificially shrinking the market for video gaming through their market targeting. Maybe video gaming would have been a much bigger and much more diverse industry today, if it hadn't been for EA?

The irony of it all, is that while EA are driven to do this by desire to profit, they are also destroying themselves. Their business scheme is no longer successful. They have destroyed too many franchises. EA is today a brand name with very negative value. And 300 mil games? Well, they also paid an awful lot of money to own those games.

I didn't vote for EA, but we buy and play their games? No we don't, you're wrong. And that's one reason EA are not so successful. It's different in this forum of course, since it's a forum for people playing EA games, but a very large portion of those gamers who actually spends significant money on video games, resist buying EA games. Even if they would want them.
 
I am almost the only one I know, who have bought EA games during the latest years. And that is limited to Spore, DA:O, Awakening, and DA:2. Does that even amount to one game a year? And I was only happy with DA:O and Awakening. And DA:O was mostly developed before EA. And I was bitterly disappointed with Spore and DA2.
 
But I'm one of those stubborn ever-optimists, who always hopes to be proved wrong (I had such hopes for J.R. - to turn things around  would have been good if he had, thinking about the franchises EA own). As I said, I didn't vote for EA. I understand why they won though. (But if they announce they are buying Bethesda, that will be the final straw.)

[Sebiale]

Gamers have seriously got to learn to say no.
EA has a large portion of the market and quite a few franchises, but it's hardly a monopoly. Just stop buying their games and go play others.
It's not a difficult conclusion.

[SKELETON HARVESTER]

Godak wrote...

SKELETON HARVESTER wrote...

I don't understand what makes you think this line of thought is exceptable.
If people didn't play their games then how else could they know that EA is terrible at making them? And plus enjoying 1 game out of 20 in a year is less than a 1% satisfactory grade.

That's a failure if there ever was one.

What makes you think it's unacceptable? What makes you think it's a failure? If you think EA generally makes crappy games, why buy them to see if they are crappy? If you go into a purchase expecting something, get precisely what you expect, and then blame said company for giving you what you expected (crap), aren't you the one at fault?

What gave you the idea that I still buy their games, let alone play them?
Mass Effect 3 was the first and only exception to that.

[Volourn]

"Let's get one thing straight, I gon't buy EA games, I buy games from companies that EA owns. i.e., BioWare. It creates a lovely fine little sticking point that sucks major a**"

You buy EA games. BIO is EA.


"I didn't vote for EA, but we buy and play their games? No we don't, you're wrong. And that's one reason EA are not so successful. It's different in this forum of course, since it's a forum for people playing EA games, but a very large portion of those gamers who actually spends significant money on video games, resist buying EA games. Even if they would want them.

I am almost the only one I know, who have bought EA games during the latest years. And that is limited to Spore, DA:O, Awakening, and DA:2. Does that even amount to one game a year? And I was only happy with DA:O and Awakening. And DA:O was mostly developed before EA. And I was bitterly disappointed with Spore and DA2."

Who is this 'we' you speak of? Certyainly ain't the millions of peeops buying all things Sim. Surely ain't those who repeatedly buy sports games like Madden every year. can't be the nearly 2mil punks who purchased ME3 in its first week or so of release?

Sorry dude can't take a poll seriously when the 'worst' company in the world has MILLIONS of REPEAT customers.

EA didn't magically appear and started doing what they did. They did so by coinually giving customers what they want ie. The Sims, madden, etc.


After them winning this award, I better see that the next madden sells less than 100 copies during it's lifetime. L0LZ

[Lucy Glitter]

John Epler wrote...
I lived through ManGiraffeDog, there's nothing the ME3 forum can spring on me that would cause that reaction.

Now, adding some scotch to the coffee - that's a little different.

What? Who's ManGiraffeDog?

[Rockworm503]

Darth Krytie wrote...

I personally find it disgusting that EA won this for something so trivial in comparison to what those other companies did to get on the list. Yes, making a bad choice for five minutes of gaming is so much worse than poor labour conditions. Anyone who voted for EA over other more deserving companies (who actually committed crimes) makes me sick.

"To those who might sneer at something as "non-essential" as a video game company winning the Worst Company In America vote: It's that exact kind of attitude that allows people to ignore the complaints as companies like EA to nickel and dime consumers to death."

^^this from that very article. 
You might not like it but its there.  Many of us are tired of EA giving us the finger and saying we should be happy they'll give us that.

[Chromie]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

John Epler wrote...
I lived through ManGiraffeDog, there's nothing the ME3 forum can spring on me that would cause that reaction.

Now, adding some scotch to the coffee - that's a little different.

What? Who's ManGiraffeDog?

You can't be serious? The most awesome troll to ever grace our pathetic existence. No mod could handle his power. He simply vanished due to boredom.

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Modifié par Skelter192, 06 avril 2012 - 02:23 .

[Rockworm503]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sorry but BoA screws you over you lose your house and become homeless, EA annoys you then you end up miffed at nothing more than your hobby. At this stage anyone who voted EA in that against many of the others is nothing more than a spoiled child.

I'm assuming you are homeless than, either that or you live in the EA basement dungeon, defending them in hopes one day you will be released from your cage.

Lets make it perfectly clear here.
The endings to Mass Effect wasn't even a factor into my voting for EA.
Everything else about them is much worse.
Hell I'm pretty much over Mass Effect I've moved on.
Telling me I'm a spoiled child tells me you're more worked up over it than me

[Rockworm503]

Edit* bad post

Modifié par Rockworm503, 06 avril 2012 - 02:36 .

[Rockworm503]

WTF my post wont get through
JUst delete if you will.

Modifié par Rockworm503, 06 avril 2012 - 02:36 .