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[Needsnewending]

Be aware of EA Trolls trying to asume control in the forums..

Modifié par Needsnewending, 04 avril 2012 - 09:16 .

[Capone666]

slyguy200 wrote...

People like the end-supporters gave child's play hate mail and threatening them they had no choice but to stop. It is because of them that the donations were ended. Once again your FAULT end-supporters, no more games and stuff for sick kids, because of your selfish crap.

Nope entirely untrue. if you read this, or any of the other 35 thousand articles you will see that Child's PLay Requested that RetakeMe3 stop their charity campaign early, but were very thankful for all of their support.

[Farbautisonn]

Tirigon wrote...

True. But just because something is not normal doesnt make it automatically good either.

-"Good" is a matter of perspective. Change is automatically percived as bad by most, and yet if we didnt have change, none of the liberties we take for granted would have ever existed. And those liberties weren't championed by "normal people". They were championed by movements and organisations.

Tirigon wrote...
And cooperations and politicians are widely seen as evil, and noone trusts them because most of them lie whenever they say anything at all.

-Depends on the cooperation and the politician. You might not agree with the labour and product profile of Wall-mart or Mc Donalds, but they are still very popular and successfull. And politicians are still trusted to lead your nation, your bureaucracy, businesses and your infrastructure. Sure some lie, but most do try to stay honest. Not because they want to but because its in their best interest to have the favour of the public to keep selling their products/getting reelected.

[invulnerable23]

It's amazing how angry people get that other people are paying into a charity. God forbid that they want to use positive efforts to draw attention to their cause.

It's funny that the same people bashing those for their passion against the ending of the game are the same who accuse them of having no lives and making more of this situation than needs to be made. I say it's funny because they are the same people replying to said topics.

That said, this topic probably doesn't belong in this forum.

[Black_Diamond]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

jesus..who cares anymore,game was released ages ago.
just spamming and boring the hell out of people flogging this deceased equine.

take up trainspotting or something.

Indeed.
Bad games, bad movies, bad books happen all the time.
You know what normal people do? B***ch about it for a few days and move on.

The Retake movement is becoming a sad parody.

Really? You know, the last few M. Night Shamalan movies were all discounted because of his previous ineptitude. And there was that time with Michael Bay. And every time their stuff is mentioned, all I see to read is about remembering the last movie and how horrible it was. So the retake movement may keep talking about it for a while yet to run it's course, but I'm relatively sure they'll be back with boots on for the next few releases reminding everyone how bad the ending was. I doubt it will ever go away for good.

[Farbautisonn]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Cooperations and politicians has done so for generations. And now when consumers does it, its suddenly reprehensable? Really? Do you boycot Mc Donalds for feeding kids food that turns them obese and diabetic and then have the audacity to sponsor a "Ronald McDonald" home at a hospital that treats the kids?

Uncle Kentucky salutes you!

That guy will allways remind me of a commercial from Peta I once saw...  It was so over the top hyperbole it shot itself in the foot and was the laughing stock of europe.

[Kaloneous]

I work in the gaming industry and Retake are being taken very seriously. Review sites spouting the word "entitled" along with other gamers who disagree are only damaging themselves, not because they may or may not be right/wrong but because they are coming across as the immature ones. Arguments are won with intelligence and not insults. If the industry doesn't listen to its consumers then there are rough waters ahead.

As for the Child's Play charity, it was a resounding success but I understand why Child's Play wanted to end it though. Oh, and to address a previous poster, the second charity is going great from what I hear. I have always been a supporter of this charity and I am happy to see both groups managing it better this time around.

Note: I am not a member of the Retake Mass Effect 3 campaign.

[ZombieGambit]

Ugh, I'm so sick of hearing about this. It's just a videogame. It's my favorite series ever and I never found any of this necessary.

If BioWare changes the ending it'll set a terrible precedent for the gaming industry. Creative developers will want to stick with "safe" happy endings and greedy publishers like EA and Activision will want to release multiple ending DLCs for games. You don't ask a musician to re-record his music and you don't ask a director to re-film his movie, but apparently you'll demand repeatedly that a game developer "fix" their game. Grow up, people.

[Tirigon]

Farbautisonn wrote...

-"Good" is a matter of perspective. Change is automatically percived as bad by most, and yet if we didnt have change, none of the liberties we take for granted would have ever existed. And those liberties weren't championed by "normal people". They were championed by movements and organisations.

Campaigns and movements start something. But they need the normal people behind it, or they ultimately fail.

-Depends on the cooperation and the politician. You might not agree with the labour and product profile of Wall-mart or Mc Donalds, but they are still very popular and successfull. And politicians are still trusted to lead your nation, your bureaucracy, businesses and your infrastructure. Sure some lie, but most do try to stay honest. Not because they want to but because its in their best interest to have the favour of the public to keep selling their products/getting reelected.

Most people like Wal-Mart and McDonalds for the products they offer, though, not for their support of charities, and most of those who do would not change their opinion if McDonalds would stop supporting these charities.

As for the politicians: maybe those in your country are honest and try to do the best for their country. In most parts of the world this is different, however.

Farbautisonn wrote...

That guy will allways remind me of a commercial from Peta I once saw...  It was so over the top hyperbole it shot itself in the foot and was the laughing stock of europe.

Everything PetA ever does is laughable and over-the-top.
Peta is a prime example for a movement that should stop cease to exist.
Although that would bereave the world of much to laugh about.

Modifié par Tirigon, 04 avril 2012 - 09:30 .

[MorSterling]

Check the polls end-supporters.

You are a little, very little vocal minority.

[addiction21]

slyguy200 wrote...

People like the end-supporters gave child's play hate mail and threatening them they had no choice but to stop. It is because of them that the donations were ended. Once again your FAULT end-supporters, no more games and stuff for sick kids, because of your selfish crap.

Childs Play broke three million dollars last year. They will be fine without you.

[knightoftaurus]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Ugh, I'm so sick of hearing about this. It's just a videogame. It's my favorite series ever and I never found any of this necessary.

If BioWare changes the ending it'll set a terrible precedent for the gaming industry. Creative developers will want to stick with "safe" happy endings and greedy publishers like EA and Activision will want to release multiple ending DLCs for games. You don't ask a musician to re-record his music and you don't ask a director to re-film his movie, but apparently you'll demand repeatedly that a game developer "fix" their game. Grow up, people.

Apparently you've never heard of screenings or testers for these sorts of things.

Also, if a movie or album is bad, people LOUDLY and PUBLICLY say it all the damn time, and it is widely accepted. It's why sites like Rotten Tomatoes exist.

So good for you. You liked the ending. Lots of people did not, and that's why Retake exists. If you don't want to read it, go elsewhere. It's "just a video game" after all.

[Capone666]

addiction21 wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

People like the end-supporters gave child's play hate mail and threatening them they had no choice but to stop. It is because of them that the donations were ended. Once again your FAULT end-supporters, no more games and stuff for sick kids, because of your selfish crap.

Childs Play broke three million dollars last year. They will be fine without you.

80 thousands dollars to any Charity is welcome, even one that cracks the 3 million dollar sky.

[knightoftaurus]

MorSterling wrote...

Check the polls end-supporters.

You are a little, very little vocal minority.

Lol what polls?

Are we supposed to be quaking in our boots over your vague hand waving of some mysterious, non-linked polls?

[kbct]

Kaloneous wrote...

I work in the gaming industry and Retake are being taken very seriously.

Interesting. Every insider that has posted on these forums (and that I have read) has said the same thing.

[Farbautisonn]

Tirigon wrote...
Campaigns and movements start something. But they need the normal people behind it, or they ultimately fail.

-Not really. They just need to generate enough attention to get "normal people" to choose differently. They dont need the "normal people" to walk with them or support them. Ofcouse the more support the better, but really you dont need more than a "vocal minority" to force a change.

Most people like Wal-Mart and McDonalds for the products they offer, though, not for their support of charities, and most of those who do would not change their opinion if McDonalds would stop supporting these charities.

-The support of charities doesnt hurt now does it? It doesnt make people go "OMG they are holding "x" charity hostage to raise their social profile"? 

Most who support the "Retake" movement dont support them because of the charities. But the charities is a nice thing. Its something nice people can get behind. Its this "niceness" that is a shield, just as it is a shield for Mc Donalds or Wallmart.

As for the politicians: maybe those in your country are honest and try to do the best for their country. In most parts of the world this is different, however.

-In the US/Canada and most of what we generally percieve as "the civillized west" politicians are honest enough. We cant all be Norwegians (Im danish but I believe Norway tops as the least corrupt.. dont hang me). Not even in nations where the surest way of getting elected is carpet bombing the electorate with expensive commercials, pr stunts and talk-show host visits, kissing of babies and supporting charities and where the need to raise cash is thusly paramount, are politicians dishonest. They listen to their supporters, and if the supporter happens to be carrying a big cheque for an even bigger banquet then that supporter will get the politicians ear. Nothing wrong about that. The people in said nations have accepted this modus operandi or they would have replaced it.

Modifié par Farbautisonn, 04 avril 2012 - 09:41 .

[addiction21]

Capone666 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

People like the end-supporters gave child's play hate mail and threatening them they had no choice but to stop. It is because of them that the donations were ended. Once again your FAULT end-supporters, no more games and stuff for sick kids, because of your selfish crap.

Childs Play broke three million dollars last year. They will be fine without you.

80 thousands dollars to any Charity is welcome, even one that cracks the 3 million dollar sky.

I did not argue that.

The charity is fine and those sick kids will continue to get games a stuff.

[kbct]

HenchxNarf wrote...
A large number of people wanted their money back? So yeah, people don;t want any more shady charity crap anymore.

They raised and donated $80K. Who are these mysterious people?

The movement increased awareness. We want that. The movement gave money to sick kids in hopitals. We want that.

[Illtis89]

When journalist companies such as ign make statements about the retake movement and openly admit they haven't completed the game are just a bunch of idiots making themselves look asanine.

The next point I would like to bring up is, you don't judge a whole group based on the actions of 1 or a couple of people, you judge the whole group based on the majority.

Unfortunately there will always be bad apples in any group.

So here's my take. Stop judging the retake movement based on the actions of a couple of people. All you are doing is making yourself look dumb for doing so. It's called common sense use it.

Wasn't trying to bash anti-retakers, just trying to make a point by being civil.

[Lowen balros]

I so cant wait to see what the final verdict is going to be. When will we find out, cause i have to go to work, and Where can I look to see what they decide?