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<Spoiler> Defeating Brood Mother


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StuBurn

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I am really struggling defeating the Brood Mother in the Dead Trenches (My 2H Axe Dwarf is Lvl 14).  All of my party are being wiped out very quickly (Zevran, Alistair and Wynne) and by the time her/its health is down to 50% she then summons more Darkspawn and Tenticles and swarm me and I die.  I must have tried about 40 times now with no luck.

Does anyone have any suggestions because, as it stands, I have had to create a new character thinking I have Nerfed my party with my current game Image IPB.

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I think you need to change your tactics. I do not think Wynne can keep three melee characters alive in that kind of a fight. Do you have any of the melee characters set to use health poultices on themselves and allies? With that many melee, I would suggest having them all set to do it at 50% health, since some will be stunned or using another ability when it is needed, and Wynne is not usually enough to keep up (from my experience with a 3 melee party).



The only other thing I would suggest is using AoE combat skills when it is safe to do so.

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I have run out of health pulitices and the others are not set up to use them anyway.. I think I have messed up completely with this game so I have started again.



This time I am keeping my party to one mage, one warrior, one rogue (ranged) and my dog! oh and I am buying a LOT more poultices.

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My suggestion is to do the Dalish elves first, that way you have access to Elfroot from their vendor. That way, you can grab tons of elfroot, then flasks in Denerim (in the inn) and make yourself lots of poultices early on. Same thing works with Lyrium Dust in the Circle tower. Stock up early and save yourself some trouble.

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I wiped couple times untill I figured meleeing Brood Mother being bad thus my dual wield rogue and Ohgren equipped bows while Shale was tanking (to keep BM focus and if all are ranged then BM swarms tentacles all over). When more tentacles & darkspawn came, ohgren and my rogue went melee on them and then back to bows for BM..



Changing tactics works wonders.

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Oddly enough, Brood Mother was one of the easiest fights for me.

And I went in swinging melee, without Wynne. [Hard difficulty]



I found that disappointing as the atmosphere leading up to that fight was some of the best in the game.


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Well I have Zevran Ranged and I had Wynne (also magic Ranged).  Alistair and My Dwarf were Melee. I think I have selected the wrong party to take in, but to be able to change my party I have to go SO FAR back that it is almost not worth it (Also I need to up Alistair's Health as it is pitiful)

I think I will keep a tight party next tie, rather than swapping all the time to use all of the characters. I think 1 rogue with bow, one mage and two Warriors, one bow and one Melee (The melee will be me I think) and I think Alistair will be ranged next time. For these areas is Shale the best bet, or is Sten worth spending time and effort on?

Modifié par StuBurn, 04 décembre 2009 - 11:10 .


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I mean my rogue and Ohgren were both melee naturally but for this encounter and only for this encounter in whole game I found out that they did more with bows than at close range because Brood Mother grabs melee guys and then wynne would have to heal both tank and dps.. So I gave them secondary equips of some bows I had found on my way in deep roads and swapped between melee for tentacles and ranged for brood mother. And wynne had to heal only Shale.



Shale makes obviously far better tank for this event as he cant be grabbed but I dont think Alistair should come out short either unless you havent give him any constitution at all.. But still I have found out that even if I have played my cards bad, tactics can win me battles like this one.

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This was the hardest fight in the game so far for me as well, I must have had to load my save twenty times. Mostly due to the fact that I only had one regular, and 3 lesser health poultices going into the fight. Got her down to literally 1% one time and wiped :( Ended up running all the way back to Orz to restock on whatever health items they had.

Party was:
Me - full shield tank
Alistair - shield, but spec'd for high willpower and dmg
Morrigan - Cold/Lightning focused
Leiliana - bard/archer

Fight was insanely brutal, even after going back to get more heal items, which only amounted to 3 more lessers, and 1 greater if I remember correctly. I think I still wiped 2 more times before I finally got her. One thing that worked amazingly well was having Leiliana switch to her final bard song (forget the name) when all the Darkspawn come out. They almost all stayed continually stunned while I focused on Broodmother.

When I did tho, it was insanely epic and one of the most awesome close calls I've ever had in a game - Broodmother was down to about 10%, there was a Shriek and 3 other Darkspawn remaining. My entire party was dead except for my character. I had 3 lessers remaining. I killed all but a Darkspawn archer, and then went full bore on Brood. I thought I was a goner for sure. By some twist of luck, she didn't pick me up and just when I was about to die, my stamina popped up enough for a Shield Bash. I smacked her with it and thought I had lost, when my character jumped up on her and performed the finisher. Jesus was that awesome.

On a side note, I recall thinking that if that remaining Darkspawn Archer were to kill me as I dropped off her, my controller would be in 1000 pieces. :)

Modifié par Korstan, 05 décembre 2009 - 01:16 .


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Well, i didnt spend much time reading the other posts, but this is what i did.

I had a healer (morrigan - spirit healer/shapeshifter), i started her build as a healer with just the basic heal, regen and revive. Then i built her attacks until i had Tempest and the Last Ice attack (similar to the Tempest).
A Shield Tanker (Alister - Templar/Champion)
A Power House (Sten - Beserker)
and Archer (Me - Duelist/Ranger)

You must also learn to set your tactics too, when to heal, when to use items and skills to activate during certain situations. I've spent a very good amount of time configuring the Tactics for each of my characters for certain situations, so i was prepared.
I stayed ranged and just stunned and froze all spawning darkspawn, didnt mind the tentacles, and focused all attk on the Broodmother. usually when theres just the normal Darkspawn, it takes about 4 attacks from my archer to kill each, and i had a upgraded spider summon to aid.
To avoid friendly fire, just cast Morrigan's spells just around the Broodmother, dont cast it too wide from her or youll hit your team-mates.

This was my game plan and it worked, it took a good 2 tries but the 2nd try was total ownage. 1st one was close about 20%ish left, and only morrigan left lol. Hope this helps...sorry if i wasnt specific enough, ill be glad to give more info if you like.

*oh and you dont need to but more poultice, morrigan/wyenn should be able to create decent amount of poultice, just have elfroots and flasks. i'd just go to Berillian Camp and buy elfroot and flask then create.

Modifié par Hmongboi90, 05 décembre 2009 - 07:57 .


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I defeated the Broodmother in my first go. I made sure Morrigan would use healing spells when health is low and also attacks the broodmother. I made Shale to go for the Broodmother while I had Oghren to fend of the darkspawn and the tentacles. While I did the same whilst also helping Shale as well. I then made everybody turn onto the Broodmother when I got its health to 50% and then it was over rather quickly!

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StuBurn wrote...

Well I have Zevran Ranged and I had Wynne (also magic Ranged).  Alistair and My Dwarf were Melee. I think I have selected the wrong party to take in, but to be able to change my party I have to go SO FAR back that it is almost not worth it (Also I need to up Alistair's Health as it is pitiful)

I think I will keep a tight party next tie, rather than swapping all the time to use all of the characters. I think 1 rogue with bow, one mage and two Warriors, one bow and one Melee (The melee will be me I think) and I think Alistair will be ranged next time. For these areas is Shale the best bet, or is Sten worth spending time and effort on?



Keep Wynne as ranged Healer (helps if you have her becoming arcane warrior), but remove ranged on Zevran.  Arrows are too weak against the tenacles.  Yourself, focus on the tenacles and the darkspawn as they appear - don't let them get built up.  During instances of the tenacles withdrawn you may melee the broodmother, but as soon as the tenacles return, go back to fighting them.  It also helps to have your own supply of health reserves, so Wynne is not completely relied on.

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The broodmother is really easy if you know the right strategy. The first thing to think about is, spamming alot of whirlwind skills. Like Blizzard and Inferno. Do that on the brrodmother, let your melees take care with the tentacles. That way the broodmother will not harm them that much, and later on some darkspawn will spawn. And your melees will take care of them. Make sure you have alot of pots so the can heal and recover their mana/stamina.:ph34r:(That's my ninja way!)

Modifié par Khranashil, 09 décembre 2009 - 11:22 .


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Died there once and then found out that the fatty has no decent ranged attack. Just waste the tentacles and the minions first (there's 2 or 3 waves of them I believe), maybe have an archer attack the big mama when you have no other targets (don't run straight at her). But most importantly just waste the minions. I ended up with the mother half dead, everyone in my team alive, no poultices used and easy from there on.. The problem was not brood mother but the parts before her...but then again it all depends on your party setup. This brood motha bit required some pause menu adjusting. I have PC (mage healer/damager), Zevran (archer / dual wield melee chap), Oghren (melee tank and here the main tentacle chopper) and Morrigan (healer/disorienter). Playing on hard difficulty.

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- Attack tentacles until they are gone
- Attack broodmother until tentacles come back up
- Attack tentacles again
- Attack darkspawn that come just as you finish off tentacles
- Back on broodmother
- Repeat

Use health potions, AoE's, lyrium pots on wynne.

Try pulling your party out to the back of the room when not on broodmother.  3 melee on one darkspawn/tentacle will kill it much faster.  Only go in to attack her (or nuke her from afar with magic, poision if you can) then pull out on the mob parts.

Modifié par Justin2k, 09 décembre 2009 - 08:14 .


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Ohgren (LoD armor and the best axe I could give him)

Shale (all spirit crystals)

Wynne (all healing, all the time, plus Haste)

My character was a rogue wielding two longswords and wearing the deluxe Drakeskin armor. Everyone was level 15-16 by that time.



Took the fat thing down in no time. Just remember to quaff potions like it's going out of style and run right the eff in there. Minions? That's what dwarves and golems are for.

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broodmother was easy.



Keep shale with aura, morrigan and rogue main with bow far away and the char left (alistar, sten) stays with you to slay the summons

she never hit you too strong.





for better results, have all ranger skills and summon poisonous spider





i killed her very easily. My chars are lvl 17+-

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I've saved Orzammar for last both times so far, and frankly, the two Genlock Emissaries a couple of rooms before have given me more trouble than the Broodmother. The key is to have enough decent potions, really. Tactics is secondary, but knowing your strengths and weaknesses and being willing and able to micromanage help.



I'm not really conversant enough with the tactics yet to be able to use them effectively, anyway. Need to play the rogue too so I have a good idea of what all the classes abilities are - I know my mage and rogue were completely wasted on the first playthrough, because I only really had an idea about the warrior abilities...

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Wynne is easy if your controlling her. Here's what I did on my PS3 playthrough.

Lifeward, Haste, Heal, L-Potion , Group Heal, L-Potion, Heal,

add a buff or two

But it was basicly watching the cool down timer for group heal.


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The fat chick was strong as hell if you got close, but like any fat chick she hates to get up and chase you. The tentacles are weak enough that you can deal with them, so why rush into her gaping mouth? Sit back with your ranged weapon sets and pummel her mighty. It took me several tries (several), but with Oghren, Leliana, Wynne, and my mage Fireballs, I took broodmother down with good tactics. Put your characters on hold position and individually move them so they're spaced apart, then open fire -- she can't hurt you fast enough to outrun Wynne's mana recharge.



It might be dirty, but who said anything about fighting fair?