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Gamble & Hudson: "Couple Big Things to Talk About" in the "Next Few Days"


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Pain Train wrote...

If the only thing he is excited about has to do with multiplayer, then Bioware truly is ignoring the real issues at hand and telling its fan base to *(&())& off.


You act as if this isn't exactly what BioWare has been doing since the ending fiasco began.

I'm sorry, the way to elevate a medium to an 'art' is no achived by pourposfully alienating your fanbase, nor is it by attempting to be 'trendy' rather than follow the desires of your consumers.

Art, at its best, is without rules - without steriotypes and reactionary counter culture meterial. It is, quite simply, a shared experience, and the best of those know how to be embraced by their audiance - not done in spite of them.

Bioware needs to fess up to its mistake and make an alternate ending. They can preserve the origonal if they chose to - Video Games, even when viewed as an art form, is still well known and capable of embracing the concept of having more than one path to the same goal -

Oh wait, BioWare's writers already hit on that point, in Legion's script in ME2. It's about time they learn the lessons they write about, and allow their players to achieve the end goals of ME3 by their own means, instead of belitteling and negating the entirty of their choics beyond the 'final farewell' scene before the last mission. 

It's not the last 15 minutes that were bad, the last 15 minutes were Horrific, but nowhere in the last mission where your decissions reflected upon beyond an arbitrary numeracle battle?

Where are the cameo radio voices of ME2 teammates (+ Wrex)? During the charge to the missle silo?
Where is Miranda's fighter squadron moving in to distract Habringer's fire? Or the Normandy for that matter?
Where the f--k are the rest of your teammates that WEREN'T the final 2 you pick with you?

The ending is terrible because it is completely and utterly detached from the rest of the game, INCLUDING the entire mission before it. It has nothing to do with what you achieved up until that point and down right spits on any of the personal struggeles overcome up until that mission.

They botched it, completely. We're not talking a matter of clarifying or changing a few choice things, the entire ending mission needs to have a "Re-Take", from the gameplay right down to the writing. THAT can be done in a DLC that I'll be willing to pay for. Alternate ending missions with variable endings that meet the demands of the playerbase.

The game should have had it in releace, but I'm willing to forgive that mistake IF they own up to it.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...
Don't give them so much credit, there are only three colors.  :P


Yes but each have important variations: Whether Big Ben is destroyed or not!

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tobito113 wrote...

Yes it does because each of them had diferent implications for earth and diferent meanings to the galaxy. How many times did we have this same argument Angry_One?

If the only thing you can see diferent about the endings is the color then you just didnt pay atention to the plot...


There were "three" endings theoretically. One for control, one for synthesis, one for destroy option. Sure, if you were trying to get low EMS on purpose, Earth is screwed, but no matter the option, the galactic civilizations are screwed, and Shepard could have caused as much or even more harm than the Reapers.

Oh and Joker says Hi from a random planet in the middle of nowhere.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

6 coloured variations of one ending do not qualify as 6 endings.


Don't give them so much credit, there are only three colors.  :P


Ah, but two of those coloured endings also do various levels of damage to Earth... They defintiely count as distinct endings!   ;)

Also, The Angry One forgot the seventh, where there's a 10 second clip of Shepard breathing in for the Red Ending!

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Today's topic:

"How can we use this bad ending to our advantage and milk the hell out of them?" 

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Ha, I know it, I know it: They will release a patch that will fix the character face import thingie. HOORAY!

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Bill Casey wrote...

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"Sha right, like we'd end the game like that!"
"Let's do the Scooby Doo ending!"


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

No doubt, the funniest post about the ending to date.

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Fruit of the Doom

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The Angry One wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...
Don't give them so much credit, there are only three colors.  :P


Yes but each have important variations: Whether Big Ben is destroyed or not!


But Big Ben was destroyed in the trailer!

O_O

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 04 avril 2012 - 10:15 .


#309
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They are really playing with fire with all this. Dangerous teasing.

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here it coooooooomes, the real ending to mass effect 3!!!! :)

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...
Don't give them so much credit, there are only three colors.  :P


It won't stay that way for long.

Think of neopolitan ice cream,

Best thing ever until Baskin Robbins came along

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 They want to impress me at PAX?

Let me give them a clue at how to proceed -

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Modifié par Hyrist, 04 avril 2012 - 10:19 .


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Please listen to your fans Bioware, please :)

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"Dear ME Players,

We apologize.  We didn't expect you to hold us to the standards we use to hold ourselves to.
Thank you for reminding us to keep our **** together.  We won't let you down.

Love ME Team."


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"Dear ME Team Bioware,

We knew you wouldn't let us down in the end.  We respect you as the amazing game producers and creators you are.  We have decided to let by gone's be by gone's.  All is right within the gaming community.  Thank you for understanding that we feel just as responsible for the MEverse as you do.  Take that as the highest compliment fan can give creator.

Love RTME3 Movement.
"

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tobito113 wrote...

Yes it does because each of them had diferent implications for earth and diferent meanings to the galaxy. How many times did we have this same argument Angry_One?

If the only thing you can see diferent about the endings is the color then you just didnt pay atention to the plot...


We were promised 16 different endings. Even if we count fem shep as a different ending that's still only 12 'unique' endings.

Furthermore, while they do have different implications, there is not enough information to know if these implications matter. Speculations on what happens after credits roll range from "just about everything in the universe died and interspecies contact ceased" to "all the aliens are stranded in Sol. If the Quarians don't have their liveships there then all the dextros starve. And let's just hope Earth has enough farmland left for the rest of the species there to survive on because we don't know the extent of the damage." I'm not going to count the Citadel because if Star Wars fans can accept that the rebel victory didn't destroy Endor, then we can accept Citadel exploding doesn't destroy Earth :P

Then you have the issue that most homeworlds have become dependant on off-world colonies to support a population that had already outgrown the carrying capacity of the planet. The loss of Mass Relays in this case would be analogous to returning to 18th century technology in the real world for transportation.

This is why all the endings feel the same, because without more information we're just left with speculation on what happened and the only concrete information we have is what's shown in the cutscenes. So, in the short-term the endings are pretty much the same and the long-term only matters if the short-term doesn't result in mass extinctions.

That's also why I find "lots of speculation for everybody!" to be so funny. The more you speculate, the worse the endings become.

Modifié par Raven4030-2, 04 avril 2012 - 10:21 .


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ragecage559 wrote...

Hard to be excited about anything that comes out of Casey's lying mouth.



^^^^^ Mmmm-hmmm. Well said, friend, well said.

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DVZ wrote...

If Obama said "Vote for me come November and I'll make Hudson and Gamble produce the real ending or chuck 'em in Guantanamo Bay" he'd ****** all over Romney come election day.


Haha lmao....so true...

But then again...

He's gonna ****** all over him anyway come election day lol

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Hyrist wrote...

 They want to impress me at PAX?

Let me give them a clue at how to proceed -

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Not enough artistic integrity.

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Bioware, I willing to pay more for more upcoming ending DLC if you had planned or at least indoctrinated theory (I REALLY HOPE SO!!) and u owns us this, waiting u guys at PAX this coming weekend.

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:lol:

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I wonder if I'll be even remotely interested in what anyone has to say on the 6th.

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The Angry One wrote...

Not enough artistic integrity.


Let them stuff their artistic integrity where Krogan can't reach.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

DVZ wrote...

If Obama said "Vote for me come November and I'll make Hudson and Gamble produce the real ending or chuck 'em in Guantanamo Bay" he'd ****** all over Romney come election day.


Haha lmao....so true...

But then again...

He's gonna ****** all over him anyway come election day lol


chokes on pepsi :lol:


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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...
Don't give them so much credit, there are only three colors.  :P


Yes but each have important variations: Whether Big Ben is destroyed or not!


But Big Ben was destroyed in the trailer!

O_O

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!


It was? I thought Hard British Dude who looks different in game to in video was in it and totes survived?