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Yougottawanna wrote...

I've chosen to be hopeful about the PAX announcement

Because the alternative is too hard on my alcohol budget


I am so glad that I was drunk when I first finished the game.

It still hurt, but it definitely softened the blow.

Made the hangover about x100 worse though.

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Militarized wrote...

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I'm guessing you aren't known for perspicacity in real life?


EA employs hundreds of Viral marketers to spam game forums, best to just ignore obvious trolls. 


He's tried very hard to explain his side of view but ends up abusing the exact same type of speculative freedom that everyone else has.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Here is the scene I was referring to:

http://youtu.be/AYXPsls5p_4?t=20s


Look at the perspective, and also compare it to the teaser trailer. 1: The teaser trailer is set after the initial invasion, the full trailer is set during. WRT the perspective...  You can see it's destroying enormous futuristic skyscrapers, which I promise you would not be built in the middle of Westminster Palace, aka the UK Houses of Parliament! You don't need to worry about the Westminster clock tower (fun fact, 'Big Ben' is actually the name of the bell inside it, but not of the tower itself) being cut down.   ^_^


Coats specifically said he had been inside BIG BEN sniping anything that moved.

The teaser trailer scene and that one are identical aside from the ending.  Both begin with him sniping the same husk in the same manner.  They are not different scenes.

I hope you are not being serious, because you do not need to go that far to defend the canonicity of a freaking trailer.


Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.

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Militarized wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...


I'm guessing you aren't known for perspicacity in real life?


EA employs hundreds of Viral marketers to spam game forums, best to just ignore obvious trolls. 


This.

Though they tend to be more along the lines of,

"I BOUGHT LOTS OF SPECTRE PACKS IN MP AND IT MADE IT SO MUCH MORE FUN YOU GUYS SHOULD TOTALLY DO SO AS WELL!"

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Militarized wrote...

That... has nothing to do with what you said before, it wouldn't be the universe anyway it would be the galaxy. Obviously life is not destroyed in it's entirerty, the galactic civilization you were attempting to preserve is what gets destroyed. A dark age is common reference to a period of time when previous advacements and technology is lost, sometimes completely depending on how grimdark you want it to be. 

The epilogue reinforces this, it's 10k years in the future with no space flight. So yes you're right a lot of things changed but whether it was for the better is certainly debateable and from a narrative perspective it borders on the absolute silly. If you don't mind everyone being set back in time, that's fine, but don't tout the endings as saving the civilization we were fighting to save, which is different then saving just the species. 


Are you kidding me? Does the man sound like he would prefer to be dead instead of having a grandchild w/e? How can you possibly say the situation they are now if no better than being MURDERED. This is why we keep talking pass each other, all you guys can use are hyperboles and crazy arguments like this, and i hate that.

The fact that shep is now a legend is enough evidence that what he did was a great thing,and the sacrifice he made was well recieved by many is the galaxy.

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The line falls in two days. Make your time.


Hate to break this to you, and all of the other people who are rooting for the "line" to "fall" or "break", but there is more to holding the line than you seem to understand. There is a strong core of the movement that is displeased with BioWare for lying to the consumer, and that is why the line will not fall -- it may or may not see a victory with an ending that is consistent with what consumers were promised, but it will persist either way in the name of consumer rights.

Explaining basic economic principles to forumites would likely be met with tl;dr, so I'll spare everyone that (for now), but the bottom line is that the movement is about far more than the (admittedly subjective) opinion that the ending sucked and should be fixed; lying to your customers is objectively bad business, and if people find the avalanche of lies to be acceptable, a truly dangerous precedent is set -- one that opens to door to negatively impact all consumers, not just the ones that dislike the ending.

I know better than to expect everyone to care about things that they don't really understand, but hopes regarding the "the line will fall" or "your line will break" are akin to believing if you wish hard enough you'll sprout wings. This is (and will continue to be) about more than a game, and no announcement will put an end to it.


The line falling is about the worst thing that could happen for Bioware, depending on the circumstances.

If it falls because BW listens to its customers and addresses their complaints, big win for everyone. If it falls because they ignore them, most of those "holding the line" will just up and leave, and will likely think twice about buying another BW or EA product again. I loved ME1 and ME2, but ME3 is the only game I have ever preordered and I have been gaming for 25+ years. I don't preorder because I have seen numerous games throughout the years fail to live up to their hype. Based on past ME games, my respect for Bioware and the comments from the staff making the game (16 different endings, no A,B,C, etc) I took a leap of faith.

Boy, do I feel stupid.

Modifié par Grusome11, 04 avril 2012 - 11:10 .


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You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

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The Angry One wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Dark age dosent mean the universe over and no one will ever be happy anymore, it just means alot of things changed, and im sure most who are alive and their decendants are glad of what shep did.

And just because they have some elements dosent mean they are the exact same things except for color. The cost for destroying the reapers is a galatic dark age and everything else, its a big price to pay and i like that we have to pay it, going back with rainbows and butterflies after all that happened would be terrible, but thats what some people want... 


I'm finding a LOT of use out of this pic lately, my thanks to whoever made it.


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Pretty sure that this is where they're next going with the universe...

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Producers at PAX: listen people we have to announce that... *lights off* *smoke* *lots of speculation*

end.

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another spectacle of speculating spectacular speculations

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Versidious wrote...
Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.


Attempting to make sense of it at all is pretty pointless.

Otherwise you'll find yourself trying to explain the remarkable coincidence of him shooting a husk attacking the same mother and child from a clocktower on two different occasions.

Oh, too late.

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Vox77 wrote...

another spectacle of speculating spectacular speculations


Oh God the horror.

Announcing a new expansion directed by David Lynch!

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The Angry One wrote...



I'm finding a LOT of use out of this pic lately, my thanks to whoever made it.


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Pre-order ME4 now! 

Play Com'andr Shhap'aht am member of the new Yagh, that is bound to become the new ruling race of the galaxy. :wizard:

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"Our giant wallets are more swollen than ever."

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.


Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

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They could always announce the protagonist for ME4 to be a Yahg looking to uplift the rest of the galaxy by way of crushing faces.

I think I'd dig that.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Versidious wrote...
Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.


Attempting to make sense of it at all is pretty pointless.

Otherwise you'll find yourself trying to explain the remarkable coincidence of him shooting a husk attacking the same mother and child from a clocktower on two different occasions.

Oh, too late.


Can you just give each other a giant hug? <3

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I'm exited and all but this would be ultimate troll...

Casey: "Hi all Mass Effect fans, we know a lot of you are watching this conference waiting to hear about the next instalment DLC for ME3. Here is the trailer..."

Troll face appears on screen, EA has your moneyz foolz, lololol BioWare is dead!

Casey: "Thank you all and good night... Releasing Control."

Crowd get to their feet lighting torches...

"It wasn't me, EA did it, they have some kinda mind control... Please believe me, BioWare wouldn't do this kinda..."

Meanwhile on a Private jet flying over the PAX East convention center John Riccitiello sips fine wine out of a crystal glass, looking at a dossier with ValvE's logo on it "The Cycle will continue."

lol

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Versidious wrote...
Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.


Attempting to make sense of it at all is pretty pointless.

Otherwise you'll find yourself trying to explain the remarkable coincidence of him shooting a husk attacking the same mother and child from a clocktower on two different occasions.

Oh, too late.


Sorry, when does this happen in the video you linked me to? Because I've just watched it through twice, and I didn't notice it at all...

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couldnt care less about the words that come out of their mouths at this point.

soon enough, we will find out.

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we shall see....

till then, I wait.

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tobito113 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

That... has nothing to do with what you said before, it wouldn't be the universe anyway it would be the galaxy. Obviously life is not destroyed in it's entirerty, the galactic civilization you were attempting to preserve is what gets destroyed. A dark age is common reference to a period of time when previous advacements and technology is lost, sometimes completely depending on how grimdark you want it to be. 

The epilogue reinforces this, it's 10k years in the future with no space flight. So yes you're right a lot of things changed but whether it was for the better is certainly debateable and from a narrative perspective it borders on the absolute silly. If you don't mind everyone being set back in time, that's fine, but don't tout the endings as saving the civilization we were fighting to save, which is different then saving just the species. 


Are you kidding me? Does the man sound like he would prefer to be dead instead of having a grandchild w/e? How can you possibly say the situation they are now if no better than being MURDERED. This is why we keep talking pass each other, all you guys can use are hyperboles and crazy arguments like this, and i hate that.

The fact that shep is now a legend is enough evidence that what he did was a great thing,and the sacrifice he made was well recieved by many is the galaxy.


If this was the real world I'd agree with you, but it's not the real world, it's a fictional setting. A fictional setting that we liked to play in very much. A fictional setting that we can't play in ever again (as far as we know). A fictional setting that has been given a hard cap of 30 years of existence.

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Nyila wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Versidious wrote...
Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.


Attempting to make sense of it at all is pretty pointless.

Otherwise you'll find yourself trying to explain the remarkable coincidence of him shooting a husk attacking the same mother and child from a clocktower on two different occasions.

Oh, too late.


Can you just give each other a giant hug? <3


We were having a nice discussion about the trailers, and now he's being mean for no reason.:(

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tobito113 wrote...


Are you kidding me? Does the man sound like he would prefer to be dead instead of having a grandchild w/e? How can you possibly say the situation they are now if no better than being MURDERED. This is why we keep talking pass each other, all you guys can use are hyperboles and crazy arguments like this, and i hate that.

The fact that shep is now a legend is enough evidence that what he did was a great thing,and the sacrifice he made was well recieved by many is the galaxy.


I never said I don't understand why they'd appreciate being alive... I was answering the fact that you said they saved their civilization. I pointed out they did in fact NOT save their civilization, you've now moved the goal posts to "being happy to be alive", you've changed your argument. That's why it seems like I'm talking past you, because when you lost the debate you shifted the goal post. 

I will however make a punt at your current goalpost move. 

First off you're making a strawman argument, of course he's not going to sound as if he'd prefer to be dead... no one would prefer to be dead unless their suicidal. Outside of that context you need to look at the human condition within the Mass Effect lore, we can assume that the epilogue takes place on the planet the Normandy crashes on. This sets us into the same precedent as Battlestar Galactica, a prehistoric period(solidifed by Shepard being a myth instead of an actual historical figure). We would be back to struggling with our environment instead of being able to escape it, we would likely go back to a time where people were dying because of their teeth and a lack of proper healthcare and education. So I'm sure they may be thankful to be alive but the quality of that life would surely be degraded by an unimaginable amount. 

Unless you believe that goofy Adam and Eve myth, you should understand the struggle our species has had to endure to simply get to the level of technology we are at today, the untold suffering our ancestors had to go through. It is, honestly, insulting to have a story end up with our species back in that position as if it's a good thing. 

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AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.


Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.


Ha! Even YOU say the Normandy scene is out of order. 
The ending is fundamentally broken and you know it.