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[stcalvin13]

Oh Great! Casey says there's exciting things coming... So obviously there's exciting stuff coming, right? Casey hudson would never lie to us . . .

[MaleQuariansFTW]

The Angry One wrote...



I'm finding a LOT of use out of this pic lately, my thanks to whoever made it.

I hate being "that guy", but it's spelled "yahg".

:'(

[RocketManSR2]

AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

That is your opinion. You liked it. Good for you. Getting a new ending for ME3 that the other side of the issue would like would not affect you in the least. It might also bring some damn peace to this forum. That would make us all happy. 

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 04 avril 2012 - 11:27 .

[phat0817]

Somebody use a picture of Hudson and write

"Hey would I lie?"

Id like to see that floating around as a reminder.
I can see that as personal attack and removed but still the point would hit home.

[Zardoc]

AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

On it's own? No. It worked quite well for DeusEx. As an ending for the Mass Effect saga? Yeah it is. 

Modifié par Zardoc, 04 avril 2012 - 11:27 .

[JudgeOverdose]

Taboo-XX wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

The line exists because we allow it.

It will fall because we demand it.

I'm guessing you aren't known for perspicacity in real life?

Clearly s/he is not.

The bottom line is, no matter how special you believe you are on the internet, dismissing reality does not work; you cannot wish gravity away.

Have a nice day. :happy:

[AtlasMickey]

The Angry One wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

Ha! Even YOU say the Normandy scene is out of order. 
The ending is fundamentally broken and you know it.

I do not! Just that it lacks detail, specifically the kind of detail that would have been nice to illustrate so that there'd be no question, preventing quack theories like indoc from getting in the way of real thoughtful discussion. 

The fundamentals are strong and they are not going anywhere.

The line will fall, but real fans of Mass Effect have no end. Years after the line has been eradicated and fogotten, we will endure.

[TheSeventhJedi]

ragecage559 wrote...

Hard to be excited about anything that comes out of Casey's lying mouth.

Exactly my view.  I think in this case, a lie may be more dependable than the truth.  I have a feeling that it's time to leave this franchise on the shelf, and that's a sad feeling to have.  I'm dying to be proven wrong, but sorry Casey - you don't get to give legitimate hype anymore.

[RocketManSR2]

It turns out Silverman was right all along.....  

[DungeonHoek]

AtlasMickey wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

Ha! Even YOU say the Normandy scene is out of order. 
The ending is fundamentally broken and you know it.

I do not! Just that it lacks detail, specifically the kind of detail that would have been nice to illustrate so that there'd be no question, preventing quack theories like indoc from getting in the way of real thoughtful discussion. 

The fundamentals are strong and they are not going anywhere.

The line will fall, but real fans of Mass Effect have no end. Years after the line has been eradicated and fogotten, we will endure.

You're backtracking, you lack faith in your arguement of how awesome and superb the game is. And you are only seeking to be obnoxious against the Re-Takers.

[Kanon777]

Militarized wrote...

tobito113 wrote...


Are you kidding me? Does the man sound like he would prefer to be dead instead of having a grandchild w/e? How can you possibly say the situation they are now if no better than being MURDERED. This is why we keep talking pass each other, all you guys can use are hyperboles and crazy arguments like this, and i hate that.

The fact that shep is now a legend is enough evidence that what he did was a great thing,and the sacrifice he made was well recieved by many is the galaxy.

I never said I don't understand why they'd appreciate being alive... I was answering the fact that you said they saved their civilization. I pointed out they did in fact NOT save their civilization, you've now moved the goal posts to "being happy to be alive", you've changed your argument. That's why it seems like I'm talking past you, because when you lost the debate you shifted the goal post. 

I will however make a punt at your current goalpost move. 

First off you're making a strawman argument, of course he's not going to sound as if he'd prefer to be dead... no one would prefer to be dead unless their suicidal. Outside of that context you need to look at the human condition within the Mass Effect lore, we can assume that the epilogue takes place on the planet the Normandy crashes on. This sets us into the same precedent as Battlestar Galactica, a prehistoric period(solidifed by Shepard being a myth instead of an actual historical figure). We would be back to struggling with our environment instead of being able to escape it, we would likely go back to a time where people were dying because of their teeth and a lack of proper healthcare and education. So I'm sure they may be thankful to be alive but the quality of that life would surely be degraded by an unimaginable amount. 

Unless you believe that goofy Adam and Eve myth, you should understand the struggle our species has had to endure to simply get to the level of technology we are at today, the untold suffering our ancestors had to go through. It is, honestly, insulting to have a story end up with our species back in that position as if it's a good thing. 

There is no goalpost moving here. You argue that there is no diference with the endings exept for the color, i show you the diferences, you claim that its all the same because SOME parts of the endings are the same.

I made no strawman because it was YOU who argued that what shep did is no better than what the reapers were about to do, and i remind you that the reapers are trying to murder everyone while shep save trillions of lifes from death. But i doubt youll see the diference.

There is nothing insulting about that, stop claming that anything you dont agree with is a personal insult . Its just how Bioware decided to change the state of the galaxy and i am very happy about this. I dont believe in any Adam and Eve myth but i realy like the implication of the scenes and the fact that multiple cultures will have to rebuild themselves.

Again, if all you can do is exagerate and make insane arguments like this, having a discussion is pointless.

[Mystiq6]

With a comment like that I'm expecting something like 10-15 more hours of game and not a DLC, a patch. That would placate me. Do keep in mind they did elicit responses about the game in general, not just the ending.

Modifié par Mystiq6, 04 avril 2012 - 11:34 .

[The Angry One]

AtlasMickey wrote...

I do not! Just that it lacks detail, specifically the kind of detail that would have been nice to illustrate so that there'd be no question, preventing quack theories like indoc from getting in the way of real thoughtful discussion.

You cannot have a thoughtful discussion about an ending that was made without any thought.

The fundamentals are strong and they are not going anywhere.

Explain how they're not all dead from a flash dose of ionizing radiation then.
Without speculating.

The line will fall, but real fans of Mass Effect have no end. Years after the line has been eradicated and fogotten, we will endure.

You keep telling yourself that, sparky.

[Wolvy]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.

Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.

That is your opinion. You liked it. Good for you. Getting a new ending for ME3 that the other side of the issue would like would not affect you in the least. It might also bring some damn peace to this forum. That would make us all happy. 

Are you generalizing by saying anyone who liked the ending must have low standards? I am sure there are some people who may disagree with you. Also just as supporters of different endings or new endings tend to agree that because they want them does not make them entitled. There are people on both sidesof this issue and each has their own right to voice their opinion but attacking the standards of people or clumping them together does not help the issue. 

Modifié par ronbo_68, 04 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[TRISTAN WERBE]

Porn

[kakomu]

Just vague marketing BS. Until someone says something specific, I really don't care what they say.

[Versidious]

phat0817 wrote...

Somebody use a picture of Hudson and write

"Hey would I lie?"

Id like to see that floating around as a reminder.
I can see that as personal attack and removed but still the point would hit home.

Yeah. The point it proves being that there are people who'd rather launch spiteful attacks on senior devs (who have done right by us in the past by bringing us ME 1 and 2, for example, and the parts of 3 that we liked) and prove those calling us immature and aggressive right. Please, keep things civil.

[Fruit of the Doom]

Versidious wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Versidious wrote...
Dude, wait, what? Go how far?  :-S  I looked at the trailers (again, because, you know, I watched them loads before ME3 came out), which presumably you also did, tried to see what you were talking about, saw something different, then explained what I saw to you. How is that 'going far'? As for them taking place simultaneously, they're not. The full trailer scene is during the initial attack. The VO says in the second one that it's over a week AFTER the initial attack. It's really simple.

Attempting to make sense of it at all is pretty pointless.

Otherwise you'll find yourself trying to explain the remarkable coincidence of him shooting a husk attacking the same mother and child from a clocktower on two different occasions.

Oh, too late.

Can you just give each other a giant hug? <3

We were having a nice discussion about the trailers, and now he's being mean for no reason.

I'm sorry 


Here is a picture of stupid sexy Garrus to make up:



<3

[Clayless]

My god, the whining on page 1 was insane.

[VigilancePress]

Wow.

Lotta rage in this thread.

I know they're trying to get people excited for PAX, but a thread about one tweet promoting an upcoming announcement and people are flaming each other.

Personally I'm glad to finally have a *date* for an announcement. What they say will be important to hear, and I hope it'll address my issues, but it won't end there. What happens next will be our play, and I hope whatever it is we can be respectful and polite without losing that unity of purpose that has empowered us.

Be good to each other, folks, and for my part?

I will hold the line.

[NM_Che56]

Make it good.

[RocketManSR2]

ronbo_68 wrote...

Are you generalizing by saying anyone who liked the ending must have low standards? I am sure there are some people who may disagree with you. Also just as supporters of different endings or new endings tend to agree that because they want them does not make them entitled. There are people on both sidesof this issue and each has their own right to voice their opinion but attacking the standards of people or clumping them together does not help the issue. 

Which is why I edited my post. There's too much of that crap going on and it's finally starting to get to me.

- I really didn't mind the ending. That said, there was so much of the narrative missing from the end of the game it wasn't even funny. However, all this ugliness is beginning to rub off on me.  

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 04 avril 2012 - 11:44 .

[phat0817]

Versidious wrote...

phat0817 wrote...

Somebody use a picture of Hudson and write

"Hey would I lie?"

Id like to see that floating around as a reminder.
I can see that as personal attack and removed but still the point would hit home.

Yeah. The point it proves being that there are people who'd rather launch spiteful attacks on senior devs (who have done right by us in the past by bringing us ME 1 and 2, for example, and the parts of 3 that we liked) and prove those calling us immature and aggressive right. Please, keep things civil.

No your right that's steping over the line I should know better then that my bad.

[cutegigi]

AtlasMickey wrote...

I do not! Just that it lacks detail, specifically the kind of detail that would have been nice to illustrate so that there'd be no question, preventing quack theories like indoc from getting in the way of real thoughtful discussion. 

The fundamentals are strong and they are not going anywhere.

The line will fall, but real fans of Mass Effect have no end. Years after the line has been eradicated and fogotten, we will endure.

good for you.
current Bioware/EA need a lot of fans like you.