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Gamble & Hudson: "Couple Big Things to Talk About" in the "Next Few Days"


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AtlasMickey wrote...

DungeonHoek wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

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You know, the way the "hold the line" opposers and supporters are going at it is almost as stupid as the ending to ME3.


Considering the ending is in fact not stupid, I will take that as a compliment, with the momentary sadness from knowing the other guys will still have to feel insulted.


Ha! Even YOU say the Normandy scene is out of order. 
The ending is fundamentally broken and you know it.

I do not! Just that it lacks detail, specifically the kind of detail that would have been nice to illustrate so that there'd be no question, preventing quack theories like indoc from getting in the way of real thoughtful discussion. 

The fundamentals are strong and they are not going anywhere.

The line will fall, but real fans of Mass Effect have no end. Years after the line has been eradicated and fogotten, we will endure.


You're backtracking, you lack faith in your arguement of how awesome and superb the game is. And you are only seeking to be obnoxious against the Re-Takers.

No, I admit that seeing both of final squad mates walk out on to the planet was quite a jolt. I thought, "how did that happen???" But then I then I thought through it and used common sense. You may have heard of it. The squad mates retreated, either because they were ordered to or because, as they all indicated, they didn't want to be part of a second suicide mission. Good for them. I wouldn't have asked them to be a part of one anyways, and neither should anyone who actually cared about them. 

I don't have faith in my argument. I have confidence that the core narrative of Mass Effect 3 will stand on its own. It really does not need explanation. I'm only here because I'm an enthusiast and I like thinking through and explaining things, not because I think you need it to be explained.

And right now I am having a but of fun quoting Sovreign. If I'm not having some fun posting here, why bother. 

Make no mistake. You are the trolls. I am the fan.


Child, if I was trolling. You would be tearing your hair out.

But what you have presented here is so full of garbage, I find it astounding. You don't have faith in your arguement, but confidence in that the core narrative of Mass Effect 3 will stand on its own. You yourself declared it awesome and superb, yet, don't hold faith in what you say. Thus, you are actively stating you don't believe what you are saying. That is what is called being a hypocrite.

The fact of if the ending needs explination or not is subjective from person to person. But you call me a troll because I wish for something better for everyone?,  and call my fan status into question while putting yours above mine?. 

A sad little attack really. Go the distance, text bomb me too. I've seen better antics.

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AtlasMickey wrote...

Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.



please do start flying and darken the sky. you can start with earth first.

 Ironically, It will really brighten my day.

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AtlasMickey wrote...

No, I am not here to do BioWare any favors. I'm here to show my appreciation for them, to bestow praise, and love for their work.


Then why do you defend an ending that takes their work, puts it in a blender and sets it to purée?

A true fan doesn't blindly accept, but they do accept, which is more than can be said for you. My critiques are manifold.


That is where you're mistaken. A fan does not accept something that goes against the themes of the entire series.
A fan does not sit there, recieve an inadequate product and ask for more of the same.

A fan helps the developer realise where they went wrong.

Modifié par The Angry One, 05 avril 2012 - 12:00 .


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It's funny when pro-enders assume that because we dislike the ending(s) to a beloved franchise that we automatically disassociate ourselves from BioWare and have proclaimed them the anti-christ of gaming.

We respect and love BioWare for what they have developed and for who they are, otherwise we wouldn't be here complaining about a trilogy that deserves better.

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cutegigi wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.



please do start flying and darken the sky. you can start with earth first.

 Ironically, It will really brighten my day.

Well, it would be difficult for all four people who liked the endings to darken the entire sky.

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Maybe they had a meeting to talk about their exciting weekend multiplayer challenge? This time, we need to fight lots of banshees and it's going to be terrifying

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Ketten wrote...

It's funny when pro-enders assume that because we dislike the ending(s) to a beloved franchise that we automatically disassociate ourselves from BioWare and have proclaimed them the anti-christ of gaming.

We respect and love BioWare for what they have developed and for who they are, otherwise we wouldn't be here complaining about a trilogy that deserves better.


Its really hard for anyone to come to this forums and believe what you just said. 

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Completely agree with The Angry One.

AtlasMickey, you are not doing the fanbase of Bioware any favours. It's almost like you're being paid by Bioware/EA to try and sell the ending as good.

You..er...might want to check yourself for indoctrination.

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tobito113 wrote...

Ketten wrote...

It's funny when pro-enders assume that because we dislike the ending(s) to a beloved franchise that we automatically disassociate ourselves from BioWare and have proclaimed them the anti-christ of gaming.

We respect and love BioWare for what they have developed and for who they are, otherwise we wouldn't be here complaining about a trilogy that deserves better.


Its really hard for anyone to come to this forums and believe what you just said. 


Maybe you're just looking at the radicals. I do admit, they are more fun to read. ;P

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tobito113 wrote...

Ketten wrote...

It's funny when pro-enders assume that because we dislike the ending(s) to a beloved franchise that we automatically disassociate ourselves from BioWare and have proclaimed them the anti-christ of gaming.

We respect and love BioWare for what they have developed and for who they are, otherwise we wouldn't be here complaining about a trilogy that deserves better.


Its really hard for anyone to come to this forums and believe what you just said. 


There are tons of impartial articles that recognise retakers as people who love Mass Effect and who love BioWare, and want an ending befitting of them.
But by all means continue to misinterpret everything you see.

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The Angry One wrote...

Mev186 wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...


Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.


Then we will fight in the shade.

Seriously though, even if you had numbers on your  side it doesn't make the endings good. Example: Twilight.


You have to appreciate the irony of using good writing (Sovereign) to defend horrendously bad writing that directly neuters everything Sovereign said.


I was wondering when someone would say this... no, it really doesn't contradict it. 

If you really want to see my thoughts on it, why not visit this thread that also brings up Legion's rarely seen renegade comments from ME2.

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No one has responded to my comments there, yet. My wall of text seems to have stopped the thread dead lol. 

I fully admit that the Mass Effect 3 story and ending requires a person to think through it, but that's one of the reasons why I enjoy it. I would hope that Mass Effect appeals to people who like to actually think about these issues and not stop thinking because they reach some uncomfortable impasse.

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Every time Atlas posts, you guys end up taking the bait and getting angry. Seriously, just leave him be. He's entitled to his opinions just as you are.

My two cents, I'm excited to see what BioWare comes up with. Shame I can't attend PAX (even though I'm right next to Boston :/ )

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I anticipate the upcoming announcement.

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I swear-if they announce the 2nd coming and resurrection of Sheppard "aka Space Jesus" on Good Friday of all days.....

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Not sure if I should be terrified or excited about this...

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AtlasMickey wrote...

I was wondering when someone would say this... no, it really doesn't contradict it. 

If you really want to see my thoughts on it, why not visit this thread that also brings up Legion's rarely seen renegade comments from ME2.

Link

No one has responded to my comments there, yet. My wall of text seems to have stopped the thread dead lol.


You're dealing in irrelevancy, whether starbaby made the Reapers or not, his words, along with Harbinger's conspicuous silence, completely neuter the Reapers.
Any assertion that starbaby does not directly and totally control the Reapers is contradicted by the control ending.

I fully admit that the Mass Effect 3 story and ending requires a person to think through it, but that's one of the reasons why I enjoy it. I would hope that Mass Effect appeals to people who like to actually think about these issues and not stop thinking because they reach some uncomfortable impasse.


Oh look, it's the "you don't get it" defence.
No. This ending requires no thought whatsoever. None. You are again engaging in a popular pasttime among many who like the ending, which you share with IT theorists - you are making up your own ending in your head, and presenting that as canon.

Doesn't work, sorry.

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Keep in mind they are still in PR recovery mode.
They are building the best shield they can right before their PAX panel.


I've mentioned the term "corporate suicide" various times in my posts in the last 3 weeks. Regardless of what they do or say, it's basically over.

You break the trust of your consumer base to this level, it's like trying to make nice with, and remarry your ex wife...

I'll guarantee one thing. Heads will roll in the coming months. Voluntarily or Voluntold...ily :P

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AtlasMickey wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Mev186 wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...


Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.


Then we will fight in the shade.

Seriously though, even if you had numbers on your  side it doesn't make the endings good. Example: Twilight.


You have to appreciate the irony of using good writing (Sovereign) to defend horrendously bad writing that directly neuters everything Sovereign said.


I was wondering when someone would say this... no, it really doesn't contradict it. 

If you really want to see my thoughts on it, why not visit this thread that also brings up Legion's rarely seen renegade comments from ME2.

Link

No one has responded to my comments there, yet. My wall of text seems to have stopped the thread dead lol. 

I fully admit that the Mass Effect 3 story and ending requires a person to think through it, but that's one of the reasons why I enjoy it. I would hope that Mass Effect appeals to people who like to actually think about these issues and not stop thinking because they reach some uncomfortable impasse.


You're right, it does require a person who can think certain issues through - though in my opinion, anyone who accepts the endings at face value isn't exactly one who possesses the comprehension necessary to make anything out of the ending - because, there is nothing about the ending that makes sense.

And if this "art" goes over the heads of thousands and thousands of people, then it crosses the line between requiring a certain amount of thought, to becoming complete garbage.

But to each his/her own.

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Ketten wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Ketten wrote...

It's funny when pro-enders assume that because we dislike the ending(s) to a beloved franchise that we automatically disassociate ourselves from BioWare and have proclaimed them the anti-christ of gaming.

We respect and love BioWare for what they have developed and for who they are, otherwise we wouldn't be here complaining about a trilogy that deserves better.


Its really hard for anyone to come to this forums and believe what you just said. 


Maybe you're just looking at the radicals. I do admit, they are more fun to read. ;P


I just did a check on the story forums. There not a SINGLE positive tread about what people like about this game, or the fact that they apreciate Biowares work on ME3. All i see is how bioware must die or how EA is the anti christ or how evil Casey is for not giving them a better ending. Go to the story board yourself you wont find a single positive tread. This is what the ME fanbase is all about these days.

Modifié par tobito113, 05 avril 2012 - 12:10 .


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"Those fans love the endings! Lets sell them Appearance packs and a new super expensive Sunglasses customization pack for multiplayer appearance!!"

Attending: "OMG Brill, you guys when the bonus of the years!!!"

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I'm I the only one who still likes and respects Casey?

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TheLostGenius wrote...

"Those fans love the endings! Lets sell them Appearance packs and a new super expensive Sunglasses customization pack for multiplayer appearance!!"

Attending: "OMG Brill, you guys when the bonus of the years!!!"

Is it sad that I find this to be the most likely scenario? :crying:

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You know, Nintendo can pull off being mysterious and coy about their next move. You can't, Mr. Hudson. No one at Bioware can. You just come across as really insufferable and smug.