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In fairness: Mass Effect 3 DOES NOT suck


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tetsutsuru wrote...

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ME3 is a brilliant, brilliant game. It's a shame that so many people seem to have lost sight of that.


100% this.ME3 is the only game that i actually remember playing that i laughed,had fun and cried.And a LOT of unforgettable scenes.


Man, I tell ya, tears started flowing when Mordin said, "I would have liked to run tests on the seashells."

And that shared prayer with Thane.

And Legion's ultimate self-sacrifice for his people.


These scenes are amazing well done.They gave me chills every time i see.

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Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game. The ending is just horrible.

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Grasich wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

Grasich wrote...

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sth128 wrote...

So if a man behaves properly throughout his life, then go on a murderous rampage at age 80, decimating everything in his local city, we should let him go because he only sucked for the last few days of his life?

Ending is EVERYTHING. Nothing else matters.


Of course,in a 30 hours game,the only thing that matter is the last 5 minutes.


When that 5 minutes negates the previous 90 hours of play... yes... it does matter.


The ME trilogy is probably the best trilogy ever on video games.Its impossible that 5 minutes,no matter how bad they are,are enough to destroy all the good moments that i haved in the games.Its impossible for me,anyway.


Then you are lucky. I agree that the ME trilogy is the best trilogy ever. However, it only took 5 minutes to obliterate the awesome world they created. :(

Honestly at this point, my headcanon is just to totally ignore that the ending ever took place. Makes it much easier. :pinched:


Well then i am sorry to hear that the ending did destroy the universe for you.:(

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I'm still not a fan of the dialogue in Mass Effect 3.

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ME3 has it's flaws. But **** if you care when your playing it. The good parts really outshine the bad. ME3 does not not, the ending does... sadly, because of that, people use that anger to over exploit everything that was bad with the game to an unnecessary level.

And please... why do people STILL **** about exploration? What was ME1 but a recyled map and a very bad (but legendary) vehicle to go with it? Exploration is what we get in Deus Ex, The Witcher 2... not what we got in ME1. That was a pervetion of the word -.-

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The game got quite a lot of flaws yes but it's overall a solid game right up until the endings. They completely killed the trilogy for me but the rest of the game had some pretty awesome moments

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The entire game was cohesive until the ending. We had the means to destroy the reapers, and we had that dramatic moment with TiM and Anderson. All we needed was for Shepard to stay on the console and fire the Crucible RIGHT THERE and we would have had a great ending. But nah, they opted for the star kid.

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wintermaul55 wrote...

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How's the face import working for you?

When was the last time you played a game without bugs?

Yes, the face import thing was an irritant, but compare that with what you see in Bethesda games.

Bethesda games Have Good endings at least.... and their bugs are quite funny i must say...
Biowares bugs funny? PFFFT they are like lionhead's fable 3 bugs..... not funny and waste more time then they are worth.... Getting kicked off a gold match after almost finishing because i "Lost connection to EA" yeah thats fun So much fun...

Bethesda games barely have any sort of narrative structure to speak of. They're sandbox games, so it's easy for them to have satisfying endings.  I like Bethesda games, but they shouldn't be judged by the same measure as BW games when it comes to narrative cohesion. But in terms of technical issues, Bethesda's output is nowhere near as sound as ME3. None of it.

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Are some people still not getting the memo that's been passed around for oh 3 maybe 4 weeks now?

95% of Mass Effect 3 is awsome, the other 5% kills it!



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mass effect 3 rocks in my mind but the ending just ****s every thing up.... literaly

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tetsutsuru wrote...

In fairness, and to be clear:  Mass Effect 3 DOES NOT suck.  Granted, there are bugs such as the occasional crash-to-desktop after the cutscene of the Normandy escaping from Mars, or the crash-to-desktop after viewing the Prothean recording in Priority:  Eden Prime, or the "Vanguard Glitch" in Multiplayer, minor things really, and expected (unfortunately) in projects as complex and grand a scale such as this.  But Mass Effect 3 *IS* a VERY GOOD game nonetheless.

So, let's exercise a little objectivity here; the problem many, if not most, have with is the last 10-15 minutes of the game.  Essentially, EVERYTHING after being hit by Harbinger's giant laser.

(We should have listened to Wrex on that one.)

Let's also keep from fueling any further "hate" until we hear what BioWare has to say at PAX.  There's more than enough of that going around already, and does nothing but make us all feel worse, and some folks look bad.  BioWare has given us brilliant games in the past:  KotOR, ME1, ME2, etc., which we've enjoyed.  What's ~1.5 days to hear what they have for us?

Right?


It sucks as much as a bad ending to a good book or even just a bad book in general. Not to mention that the current ending basically takes a big poo on everything I did in the other 2. So not only does mass effect 3 do a disservice to the ending, but a disservice to anyone wanting to play the series back from the start.

Can they fix the issue at hand? Perhaps, but whatever they decide to do cannot just undo all of the damaged cause by the horrid ending. All of their lies before and after mass effect's release is pretty much unforgivable. This whole debacle has left me a bit sour as probably quite a few others.

I can state that mass effect 3 sucks, but it is my opinion and I only say it because like I said it's like reading an overall bad book. No matter how good the meat and potatoes were, the desert was unsatisfactory and I blame Bioware for that. It would have been better if Shepard just won the war by gathering an entire galactic army along with the Crucible's amazing firepower. 

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You're right, only the ending sucked.

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The Charnel Expanse wrote...

wintermaul55 wrote...

The Charnel Expanse wrote...

Kevlar xD wrote...

How's the face import working for you?

When was the last time you played a game without bugs?

Yes, the face import thing was an irritant, but compare that with what you see in Bethesda games.

Bethesda games Have Good endings at least.... and their bugs are quite funny i must say...
Biowares bugs funny? PFFFT they are like lionhead's fable 3 bugs..... not funny and waste more time then they are worth.... Getting kicked off a gold match after almost finishing because i "Lost connection to EA" yeah thats fun So much fun...

Bethesda games barely have any sort of narrative structure to speak of. They're sandbox games, so it's easy for them to have satisfying endings.  I like Bethesda games, but they shouldn't be judged by the same measure as BW games when it comes to narrative cohesion. But in terms of technical issues, Bethesda's output is nowhere near as sound as ME3. None of it.


It'salso not really fair to judge bethesda for some glitches when the world is so massive  It's a lot easier to get a corridor right this is also seen in bethesda games the dungeons are mostly without problems from what i have seen with 100 hours play time.

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If the game sucked and the ending sucked itd be like DA2 all over again, this is not the case, and ive yet to see someone say it.

The game is great, the best of the 3 as far as im concerned, until the end, after the ending hits, the game becomes useless, and makes any enjoyment it provided null, not only on the third game, but on the two before it. Thats a feat right there, no one else so far can say they managed to do that.

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Of course ME3 is wonderful. Would people honestly complain this loudly about the ending to a game they didn't like?

Take Duke Nukem Forever. That had a similarly cheap cop-out ending, but there were no protests because the beginning and middle were similarly atrocious. So it kinda all fit.

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I don't really get this "95% of the game was great except for the ending" assertion.

Come one, there are lots of other lack luster parts, I can't be the only one who thinks that.

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It's a great game, yeah , there are few things that i dont like, but the ending just killed me, as few people mentioned i was literally depressed for whole day, i just try not to think about the ending anymore.

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Jenonax wrote...

I don't think anyones saying it outright sucks. Its a solid game with some rather large problems. The ending is the biggest one.

Now that the anger has been reigned in somewhat as we all wait for PAX and people have started replaying ME3, the other problems start to reveal themselves.

The sub par beginning, and the utterly useless Journal are just a couple. And yes, that bloody face import. Some of us were a little bit attached to our Shepards after two games, you know.

But the game as a whole doesn't suck, and you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who truly thinks this.


A lot of people on these forums disagree... just look at the user ratings on various sites. It's sad that people feel the need to trash a VERY good game that had  A LOT of work poured into it because they hate the end... but thats the way of the world

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

I don't really get this "95% of the game was great except for the ending" assertion.

Come one, there are lots of other lack luster parts, I can't be the only one who thinks that.


Not by a long chalk.  Actually, having somewhat come to terms with the awfulness of the end, On further playthroughs, ME3 is frankly, a bit of a rushed, sloppy mess.  

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

I don't really get this "95% of the game was great except for the ending" assertion.

Come one, there are lots of other lack luster parts, I can't be the only one who thinks that.


Lackluster, maybe... but I dismiss tiny miniscule parts like that and just say it was good overall, but such an ending just makes the rest of the game sour.

I can eat a large steak and have the last bite end up being charred , or nothing but fat; well, that's the ending in comparison. 

Modifié par Wolfen919, 04 avril 2012 - 10:02 .


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In fairness, that's your opinion.

Also in fairness, in terms of content, dialogue, story, immersion, and a host of other variables, it sure as hell sucks in comparison to it's predecessors.

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the majority of the game rocks if feeling rushed and less ability to express what your shepard is saying with only two options. But over all the game is pretty solid and has a nice build up it just dies right at the end and kinda ruins the whole thing.

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DoctorEss wrote...

In fairness, that's your opinion.

Also in fairness, in terms of content, dialogue, story, immersion, and a host of other variables, it sure as hell sucks in comparison to it's predecessors.

DoctorEss wrote...

In fairness, that's your opinion.



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Tsai Zhou wrote...

the majority of the game rocks if feeling rushed and less ability to express what your shepard is saying with only two options. But over all the game is pretty solid and has a nice build up it just dies right at the end and kinda ruins the whole thing.

Feeling rushed is kind of the point. The Reapers work nights and weekends.

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Rickin10 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I don't really get this "95% of the game was great except for the ending" assertion.

Come one, there are lots of other lack luster parts, I can't be the only one who thinks that.


Not by a long chalk.  Actually, having somewhat come to terms with the awfulness of the end, On further playthroughs, ME3 is frankly, a bit of a rushed, sloppy mess.  


Not too get too far into specifics, but the beginning was quite bad too. Littered with hamfisted attempts at pushing an emotional reaction, and it didn't connect with the last few games at all. I had a similar wtf moment as I had with the ending. Obviously nowhere as big. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 avril 2012 - 10:06 .