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[Lookout1390]

Oh boy here we go...

[Hexley UK]

Ok read it.....pretentious claptrap and the ending is still rubbish.

Do I gets a cookie nao?

[Velocithon]

The Angry One wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

Thanks for the link!

Good to know there's one more. We will endure.

Well that makes... 8 or so. Congratulations.

Hey hey, come on now be real. 











Its more like11. 

[Mr.House]

Good to know illogical endings that make no sense and have so many plotholes Harbinger can fly through are great endings.

[JasonDaPsycho]

I can see the writer's first two points, even though I disagree with that person.

But the third theme being forgiveness? Come on. The ending comes off as fake and pretentious as hell. Shepard didn't even question the Catalyst. S/He just picked his/her poison. It's not redemption. It's stupidity.

[Nidowa]

no, quite simply, no

lets see, as someone who is starting to write i have looked up alot of thoes 'things to do, and not do' guides

almost every one has this to say
do not introduce a new important character in the finale, (the climax of the story)
do not introduce a new theme/goal in the finale
and do not lessen the value of previous events in the finale, (this is shortening it all down, basicly dont make something a massivly important event then later make it so it was pointless, and the only time its ok to do this is if you want a tragic/sad ending)

and ME3 fails in every one of thoes
what was the point of the entire rannock events, if we just decide later to ignore them and say clearly the geth would have attack the quarians anyway so it dosnt matter that the quarians started it (both times)

[Deltateam Elcor]

So instead of coming up with your own assumptions, you substitute it with a more valid opinion?

What opinion is MORE VALID THAN YOUR OWN?

Damn it people.

[scrapmetals]

Mr.House wrote...

Good to know illogical endings that make no sense and have so many plotholes Harbinger can fly through are great endings.

Dude, you're thinking too small. Link all the Reapers together - all of them, not just all of the ones on Earth, every single Reaper at this point in time - and make them into a nice big circle.

They could still fly through the plot holes without touching any sides.

[aliengmr1]

Its well thought out and written, but I still disagree though. Details matter to me. That doesn't make me better or anything, it just means I look for different things.

[free17]

Hexley UK wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

Thanks for the link!

Good to know there's one more. We will endure.

That's like 5 of you now?

Awesome.

I think this makes six. Six people isn't going to convince me of anything.

[Arik7]

Don't feed the troll. Please let this thread die.

[Geneaux486]

Hmm I don't agree. The very fact that I would need to read some analysis to enjoy or understand the ending (which I still think is so full of holes it's not funny) just makes it all the more apparent how poorly done it was.

Also, here is an excellent video about why exactly the ending fails so badly.

Gotta love the double-standard.

Also, I like how neutral the OP was about presenting this opinion peice (come on, there have been hundreds of threads like this that were anti-ending) and people are *still* being dicks about it.

Modifié par Geneaux486, 05 avril 2012 - 03:24 .

[KingKhan03]

I feel like i'm going insane when i talk to people who like the endings how can you ignore the plotholes How!?!?!?

[kleindropper]

Geez, if it takes a full book to explain the ending, they didn't do a very good job. Yes we understand Shepard could die, yes we understand sacrifice blah blah blah. Contrary to the writer's assertion a) our decisions did not matter, especially if you played a lot of MP if our decisions did matter, none of the results of 100 hours of gameplay were shown or explained in the ending.

I'll set aside the fact that I'm playing a video game and wanted to win and have a kick-**** feeling of victory and inspiration at the end like ME1 and ME2.

In fact, I've gone back to playing ME2 patiently waiting for this non-replayable work of art to get fixed.

[Thornne]

To be clear, if your problem is with the final cutscene then I agree with you in the fact that this cutscene is poorly done. However, I do not look at this cutscene to be the ending of the game. It shows you nothing of what occurred due to your decision, nor what happened to anyone, it is just a generic piece of eye candy. I believe the final decision you make is the real ending and once the CGI starts that really doesn't matter.

This is an endorsment of how the ending was well done?  Basically he is excusing shoddy presentation with "Well, yeah, the ending wasn't done well, but that wasn't REALLY the ending.  You just need to ignore it after a certain point."

I think that is a fair argument.  My point to start ignoring is right after Shepard collapses and the lift comes down.

[The Angry One]

free17 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

Thanks for the link!

Good to know there's one more. We will endure.

That's like 5 of you now?

Awesome.

I think this makes six. Six people isn't going to convince me of anything.

Keep in mind I'm certain a couple of the ones on BSN are just heavily misguided retakers trying to make people who like the ending look bad so the number may be even lower.

[ericjdev]

Hexley UK wrote...

Ok read it.....pretentious claptrap and the ending is still rubbish.

Do I gets a cookie nao?

You sure do.

[webhead921]

The Angry One wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

The lengths people are going to in order to rationalize or make sense of this mess gets more absurd by the day. How come people can't just accept the fact that it was rushed and poorly written.

Because if you can convince yourself you liked it, you can convince yourself that everybody who doesn't like it just doesn't understand it and hence you are smarter.

I'm not trying to convice myself that I liked the endings, I just was overall satisfied with how ME3 ended despite the flaws.  When I post here, I am not trying to convice myself that I like the endings, I'm just trying to explain to others why I like the ending.

[Warrior Craess]

bah misses the point. I stopped reading after he said "if you wanted a super happy ending".

He also misses the point that the conclusion of an Epic fantasy series should not be a cliff hanger.

Which means we should know what happens after our decision is made. We should not be treated to a final Shepard Breathing scene.

[CDHarrisUSF]

Hexley UK wrote...

That's like 5 of you now?

Awesome.

There are dozens of them! Dozens!

[Duzaman7]

"I've noticed a bunch of people say this isn't the majority of people, but I read far more blogs and posts saying they hated the ending because Shepard dies and they felt they should have been able to beat the reapers with just the fleets. I believe such an ending would be nonsensical and would have been a complete tonal shift in the series changing what I consider one of the best videogame narratives of all time into this lame B movie ending where everyone lives."

(sigh) Ending of Mass Effect 1, and since when did everybody living become B movie material?

[Cyph3rX]

He doesn't even address the plotholes, and only talks about "sacrifice for the greater good" (paragon) as a theme, effectively ignoring renegade Shepards and the theme of "victory at any cost". Good to know he also destroys his own argument by constantly stating "this could've been better" in one way or another. His analysis of the endings is like calling the game Simon a well fleshed out deep game. What a waste of my time.

[Dasha Dreyson]

Well, they listed the reasons I picked the green ending, but that doesn't mean that it really fit with the rest of the story. Setting, lore, and characters are important too.

[Velocithon]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Hmm I don't agree. The very fact that I would need to read some analysis to enjoy or understand the ending (which I still think is so full of holes it's not funny) just makes it all the more apparent how poorly done it was.

Also, here is an excellent video about why exactly the ending fails so badly.

Gotta love the double-standard.

Also, I like how neutral the OP was about presenting this opinion peice (come on, there have been hundreds of threads like this that were anti-ending) and people are *still* being dicks about it.

I don't see anyone bashing the OP. all comments are in regard to the article. 

[Geneaux486]

webhead921 wrote...
I'm not trying to convice myself that I liked the endings, I just was overall satisfied with how ME3 ended despite the flaws.  When I post here, I am not trying to convice myself that I like the endings, I'm just trying to explain to others why I like the ending.

Dude don't bother, there's no way they're gonna understand that.

I don't see anyone bashing the OP. all comments are in regard to the article.

You've got both selective vision and a misunderstanding of the point of the post you quoted.  The "double standard" I was half-joking about was the fact that the guy came in and basically said "It has to be explained, so it's automatically invalid, now here's something that explains why it's bad."

Modifié par Geneaux486, 05 avril 2012 - 03:29 .