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[Direwolf0294]

I can't understand why anyone would choose the red or blue ending unless they were playing renegade.

To me the options came down to:
Enslave an entire species and hope they don't break free and kill everyone at a later date.
Commit genocide against two species and kill one of your good friends.
Sacrifice yourself to try and save as many lives as you can.

[kathic]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I can't understand why anyone would choose the red or blue ending unless they were playing renegade.

To me the options came down to:
Enslave an entire species and hope they don't break free and kill everyone at a later date.
Commit genocide against two species and kill one of your good friends.
Sacrifice yourself to try and save as many lives as you can.

You also fundementally violate the individuality of every being in the galaxy.

[Comsky159]

Because destroy is the least nonsensical and least unethical. To use control is to justify the irrefutably abominable, monstrous nature of the reapers; the trillions who died horribly because of them. Shepard loses all dignity in this death; it's a submission to the satanic Casper and a backflip on everything he/she once stood for.

Synthesis is such a pathetically crackpot, contrived cliche as to make me physically nauseous. Not to mention this appears to be exactly what the reapers (and Arterius for that matter) wanted from the very beginning. Surrender.

Destroy still entails genocide which makes me feel terrible, but it's the most thematically appropriate choice. I couldn't even begin to consider the others.

It's all irrational bull****. If you don't choose destroy then you're lying prostrate at the feet of your reaper masters. I don't even want to think about it. People who like this ending...well let's just say I want whatever they're smoking.

Modifié par Comsky159, 05 avril 2012 - 05:14 .

[SliPaladin]

I chose synthesis the first time because I didn't know what the **** I was doing.

[nicksmi56]

I picked control because:
1. Destruction didn't work at all for me. I loved solving the geth and quarian conflict and killing the geth after all that didn't sit well. I don't believe in punishing someone for somebody else's sins. (Also my friend made a point of showing me Legion's renegade death after I got off Rannoch, which was the most affecting death in the game for me.)
"Tali Zorah.....does....this....unit....h-have...."
"Yes. Yes it does."
2. Synthesis was just the odd option to me. Didn't seem to make sense and forcing everyone to be the same kinda kills the whole diversity angle, doesn't it? I believe diversity is needed and overall, it didn't even seem like a solution. So Control was my only option in my eyes, even though I loathe The Illusive Man.
3. (Didn't realize this til I saw the scene) We don't see the relays explode! Damage, yes, but not explosion. So my speculations include my crew getting picked up and saved from the random planet XD
4. Maybe in the future, when some other threat comes along, Shepard-Reapers can swoop in and kick some ass! That thought just makes me smile

[Tiax Rules All]

-Reapers needed to die, anything else is a betrayal to Shep and the galaxy.
-plus shep lives, breath ending
-plus indoctrination theory.
-plus the other options sucked.

Modifié par Tiax Rules All, 05 avril 2012 - 05:17 .

[wizardryforever]

Contrary to what most people say, there are benefits and downsides to each choice.  The fact that there is no "right" choice is actually a good thing in my opinion.  Destroy fits the best with the story, and lets life continue more or less as it was before AI.  The downside is that you not only kill off any synthetic life (which could extend to any kind of computer, or just sentients, it's not clear), but you now have little to no means of repairing/rebuilding the mass relays.

Synthesis works well because you're not killing anyone, or gambling on being able to maintain control.  You're removing the reason the Reapers are there, so they stop attacking.  What they do then is unknown, but it's possible that they may help rebuild the relays afterward.  But the big plus on synthesis is that no one dies, other than Shepard (but he dies in each ending).  The downside to synthesis is that it irrevocably alters all life in the galaxy, which may not be good.  Hard to tell with how vague things are.

Control has the best hope for an immediate aftermath.  Order the Reapers to rebuild the relays, rebuild the Citadel, then self-destruct by flying into the nearest sun.  Of course, the downside is that you have no idea how far your control extends, or how long it will last before they inevitably turn on organics again.

I chose destroy in my first playthrough, since I thought it fit the tone much better.  That's about the only reason though. since I hadn't considered all this stuff when I made my choice.  The lack of closure sucks, and the way the catalyst was introduced was jarring, but the choices themselves aren't bad.  I just wish we had more acknowledgement of our previous choices.

[Landamskarn]

Iberius wrote...

why did you originally choose the destruction ending rather than the control or synthesis ending? Did you do it b/c you thought Shepard was potentially being indoctrinated? You just hate the Reapers? or something else.

Genetic despotism and poorly defined control schemes on the one hand, defeating the Reapers at the cost of a bunch of clankers on the other. 

Easy peasy. 

[Karrie788]

I chose destroy because I don't trust the Catalyst nor the Reapers, plain and simple. I'm not becoming neither Saren nor TIM.
Plus my Shep likes red explosions and her goal from ME1 has been to destroy the Reapers. Mission accomplished.

Modifié par Karrie788, 05 avril 2012 - 05:24 .

[Space Magic]

For me, choosing between the endings was like choosing what kind of gun Shephard should kill himself with. I didn't really prefer any option over another...I just sort of went "f--- it" and blew up the "Kill the Reapers and also all synthetics because we really, really want this option to be more ethically troubling" tube.

IMMERSIVE STORYTELLING

Modifié par Space Magic, 05 avril 2012 - 05:27 .

[Darth Asriel]

OP here was my thought process- I couldn't trust starchild that I was the 1st organic to ever make it that far. He says I would be able to control the Reapers, but it hit me that what if Harbinger had once been in my shoes. What if I could control them, but he then gained control of me. So it was out.
Synthesis made no sense. 1)there is no such thing as a final or perfect form of evolution. Evolution is always going. Anything that can't evolve becomes extinct. And that ending wreaked of loss of free will to me. And there was no way I was going to rob everyone of that.

Destroy was always the goal. It was the safest course of action. If I kill the Reapers there is no chance they ever come back. And as much as it sucked killing EDI and the Geth, it was for the greater good. It was the only way to ensure the threat of the Reapers was gone for good. Everything else wasn't a sure end to the problem.

And yeah as much as I though it out, I truly hate that these were the only choices BW gave me.

[eventhewaves]

Space Magic wrote...

For me, choosing between the endings was like choosing what kind of gun Shephard should kill himself with. I didn't really prefer any option over another...I just sort of went "f--- it" and blew up the "Kill the Reapers and also all synthetics because we really, really want this option to be more ethically troubling" tube.

IMMERSIVE STORYTELLING

Pretty much.

My thinking was the other two options definitely coincide with the positions of people I'd yelled at for having those opinions even five minutes earlier -- never mind through the entire first game -- so why on Earth would Shepard be that insane now?

The fact that Casper the Genocidal Ghost -- and, presumably by extension, BioWare -- really, obviously didn't want me to pick Destroy just made the decision that much easier.

[Semi-Sweet Serpent Charmer]

Because Reapers are dicks.

[AwesomeDudex64]

I've been trying to kill the Reapers since Mass Effect 1 so why the hell not?

Modifié par AwesomeDudex64, 05 avril 2012 - 05:35 .

[SillyNydia]

with countless others, Destruction because that has been the goal for 3 games. While yeah it sucks that EDI / Geth would be killed by this, it's the lesser of two evils. Destruction lets you keep your future in your own hands.

Control and Synthesis are a big joke in my opinion and shouldn't have even been put into the game. Bioware lost sight of the goal and direction the games had. Different endings either win/lose based off destruction would have held better as an ending. Chance to wipe them out, have heavy losses, light losses, or die fighting.

[Sir Leigh Leigh]

Strategy guide: destroy ending...... Shepard lives. Thought that would be a satisfactory ending, I was obviously wrong. Although after a conversation with Javik, on my second playthrough just before Rannoch, he convinced me that destroy was actually a pretty good option. Given the choice of the chaos of organics or the perfection of the machines, it made more sense to destroy. Funny that what Javik says makes alot more sense than starbrat, yet Javik is DLC.

[MoonsKisu]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Because no one can control the reapers
Because synthesis takes away all free will of the galaxy to forge their own destiny.
I eliminated green faster than i did blue.
Red was the only one that kept to my morals and I know that the Geth, Legion, and EDI would understand and support that choice.

[VarrenSoldier]

Chose destroy because I believe in the Indoctrination Theory.

[Tietj]

Synthesis seemed (seems) to be just about the most loathsome option I've ever been given in a video game, although if Shepard lived I might have been tempted. Control doesn't seem like it would work, and destroy is what I've been trying to do since the first game. I don't really give two craps that Joker's personal blow-up doll dies, and in most of my playthroughs the Geth are already dead. And I can imagine that Shepard survives even if I don't see the Breath cutscene.

[humansrsuperior]

Iberius wrote...

I originally chose Destruction because ever since I played Mass Effect for the first time, destroying the Reapers has always been the goal.

Yes.  This.  Also because Control and Synthesis is doing the Reapers' job for them.  Not five minutes ago you were telling the Illusive Man he was insane for thinking he could control the Reapers.  To suddenly opt for it makes no sense.  Synthesis is just a direct violation against free will and everything Shepard fights for; and I see it as little better than the husks Reapers create.  Also as Shepard has very personal, deep misgivings about his/her own synthetic reconscrution, I have an extremely hard time believing he/she would chose this option FOR THE ENTIRE GALAXY.

Basically I gafawed that the other two even existed as choices and beelined for Destroy, damn the consequences, because to not pick that would dishonor every game, every fight, every character who joined you.

[CamlTowPetttingZoo]

The first time I played it:

I didn't actually trust that Shepard was so special that the Reapers would just bend to my will. That just seemed like a setup.

I also didn't like the idea of changing everyone's DNA so we could all get along. That seemed really wrong, I thought free will was something important in ME3 and didn't Synthesis sort of destroy that whole idea?

Destroy had been my goal since ME1 and didn't come this far for some kid to try and convince me otherwise. After I did it though, I was like, that kid really just got the last laugh.

[His Name was HYR!!]

Because as far as I was concerned, every path is "destroy" when the mass relays are all going to be destroyed. If this detail alone were different between other paths, I may have considered them. I actually wanted to synthesize, but w/o the relays, I pretended there never was a choice and the crucible just did the job itself.

[humansrsuperior]

CamlTowPetttingZoo wrote...

The first time I played it:

I didn't actually trust that Shepard was so special that the Reapers would just bend to my will. That just seemed like a setup.

I also didn't like the idea of changing everyone's DNA so we could all get along. That seemed really wrong, I thought free will was something important in ME3 and didn't Synthesis sort of destroy that whole idea?

Destroy had been my goal since ME1 and didn't come this far for some kid to try and convince me otherwise. After I did it though, I was like, that kid really just got the last laugh.

Yes, yes, and yes! 

[carilynn46]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Because no one can control the reapers
Because synthesis takes away all free will of the galaxy to forge their own destiny.
I eliminated green faster than i did blue.
Red was the only one that kept to my morals and I know that the Geth, Legion, and EDI would understand and support that choice.

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