Like many others, the very first option I eliminated was synthesis. There was no way of telling how much it would actually change all life as we know it, and even as that ending stands now, it still feels like an egregious betrayal to all life. Forcing that change on the galaxy? No thanks. And, I too, thought back to ME2/Legions loyalty mission, and how he stated that "good" geth wanted to make their own future. Synthesis was an absolute no go.
As for control, using Spacebaby's logic, the chaos between synthetics and organics would still continue...you would only be removing the Reapers from the equation. Another tid bit that steered me away from it was that the Spacebaby asked "Do you think you can control us..." leaving me to wonder if it may not even work. Plus, like synthesis, it goes against everything we ever fought for, in my opinion.
Destroy was the only way.
For those of you who chose the Destruction ending.....
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#127
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:19
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The general reasoning right before shooting the tube.
1) the created do not always rebel against the creator.
2) the created rebel against the creator if the creator is a moron who treats sentient life he created as property
3) the starkid with his big revelation is an intergalactic moron and doesn't know anything about anything other than how to kill everything.
4) much less about evolution. we make the 'final step' of our evolution, whatever the hell it is (probably not what the space moron thinks it is) in our own time and without a doomsday device pointed at the galaxy, thank you.
5) if that has to destroy all synthetic life, so be it. you bet your glowing ass, we will create new synthetics. and we'll find our own solution how to coexist with them, again, without a doomsday device pointed at the galaxy.
6) if that means we have to go all the way from pre-space wastelands to spacetravel again on our own, we'll do that too.
of course, then I was sitting there watching the credits and speculating how much damage that did to the galaxy and how long it would take to rebuild, and then the stargazer showed up and told me - guess what, 10000 years later nothing was rebuilt. very uplifting.
1) the created do not always rebel against the creator.
2) the created rebel against the creator if the creator is a moron who treats sentient life he created as property
3) the starkid with his big revelation is an intergalactic moron and doesn't know anything about anything other than how to kill everything.
4) much less about evolution. we make the 'final step' of our evolution, whatever the hell it is (probably not what the space moron thinks it is) in our own time and without a doomsday device pointed at the galaxy, thank you.
5) if that has to destroy all synthetic life, so be it. you bet your glowing ass, we will create new synthetics. and we'll find our own solution how to coexist with them, again, without a doomsday device pointed at the galaxy.
6) if that means we have to go all the way from pre-space wastelands to spacetravel again on our own, we'll do that too.
of course, then I was sitting there watching the credits and speculating how much damage that did to the galaxy and how long it would take to rebuild, and then the stargazer showed up and told me - guess what, 10000 years later nothing was rebuilt. very uplifting.
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#128
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:19
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Chose destroy because it had been my goal all along - for three games and over a hundred hours of play. Not to mention how much time had passed between ME1-3? I don't think Shepard would have suddenly decided to rethink everything he has been through after a 2 minute conversation with a see through ten year old.
#129
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:24
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The Reapers are an irredeemably insane bunch of mass murdering living war crimes built from the mass graves of their victims.
Control made no sense, and synthesis is morally abhorrent to me, both blue and green require you to accept the reapers obviously wrong beliefs as fact, or give any guarantee the Reapers will actual stop being a threat.
And frankly, if Shepards going to die anyway, and bugger the universe up no matter what, you may as well finish the job properly.
Plus it's the closest you get to being able to tell Space Hitler to **** off.
Control made no sense, and synthesis is morally abhorrent to me, both blue and green require you to accept the reapers obviously wrong beliefs as fact, or give any guarantee the Reapers will actual stop being a threat.
And frankly, if Shepards going to die anyway, and bugger the universe up no matter what, you may as well finish the job properly.
Plus it's the closest you get to being able to tell Space Hitler to **** off.
#130
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:26
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Reason at the time: Because I said I was going to kill the Reapers, and dammit I will. (I really hate them)
Further justification upon reflection: Control just seems wrong to me. To control the Reapers (which I doubt is really possible) would be as close to god-hood as a human can get. No man is fit to wield that power, especially not me. As for Synthesis, no, absolutely not. I will not force extensive genetic modification on everyone in the Galaxy.
Further justification upon reflection: Control just seems wrong to me. To control the Reapers (which I doubt is really possible) would be as close to god-hood as a human can get. No man is fit to wield that power, especially not me. As for Synthesis, no, absolutely not. I will not force extensive genetic modification on everyone in the Galaxy.
#131
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:33
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I chose the Destroy ending because as far as I'm concerned, the Reapers are the technological singularity the Catalyst sought to prevent. I was to destroy the Reapers back in ME1 and would finish what I originally set out to do. Sure, I took the Geth and EDI's fate into account, but from an RP perspective my Shepard's actions wouldn't be totally unprecedented. He sabotaged the genophage cure which may lead to eventual Krogan extinction, so it made the destroy option much more viable to me. In the situation, it just made the most sense (Which even, then, isn't really much) of the three, considering it even is the true ending, and had that 10 second scene of Shepard breathing.
My femshep, on-the-other-hand, chose Control. Not as good as Destroy, in my opinion. I can see the logic behind choosing it, though. No genocide and less collateral damage, but Shepard physically dies. The Catalyst's description of what exactly happens in the blue ending is too vague too determine if Shepard completely died after calling off the Reaper attack, or if (s)he uploads his/her conciousness to the Citadel for eternity. I'd like to think the latter is true, for Shepard's sake, though. (I have to say, Control is my favorite cinematically, though. At least its space magic is pretty.)
Won't even touch Synthesis. It goes against my morals so much and is space magic at its worst. Not to mention it blatantly conflicts with what the rest of the series has shown us by being able to broker peace between the Geth and Quarians.
My femshep, on-the-other-hand, chose Control. Not as good as Destroy, in my opinion. I can see the logic behind choosing it, though. No genocide and less collateral damage, but Shepard physically dies. The Catalyst's description of what exactly happens in the blue ending is too vague too determine if Shepard completely died after calling off the Reaper attack, or if (s)he uploads his/her conciousness to the Citadel for eternity. I'd like to think the latter is true, for Shepard's sake, though. (I have to say, Control is my favorite cinematically, though. At least its space magic is pretty.)
Won't even touch Synthesis. It goes against my morals so much and is space magic at its worst. Not to mention it blatantly conflicts with what the rest of the series has shown us by being able to broker peace between the Geth and Quarians.
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#133
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:36
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Iberius wrote...
why did you originally choose the destruction ending rather than the control or synthesis ending? Did you do it b/c you thought Shepard was potentially being indoctrinated? You just hate the Reapers? or something else.
Basically, I just want to know what was going through your mind and why you chose destruction.
*****FYI - If you chose a different ending (Control or Synthesis) feel free to put that line of reasoning as well and why you did not choose Destruction.
I originally chose Destruction because ever since I played Mass Effect for the first time, destroying the Reapers has always been the goal.
to be honest, i didn't suspect indoctrination until i came to the forums. i chose destroy because i was pissed off. there was no way i was not going to blow the reapers back to hell. if the galaxy blew up with them, then so be it.
#134
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:39
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Well i picked destroy because it was the goal all along. Also i figured TIM wanted to control and wasn't Saren all about synthesis? I'm pretty sure i killed them both for that. I think the last thing i wanted was for my Shepard's final actions to show hypocrisy or crap like that. So destroy all the way! Indoc theory makes me feel better about it even more.
#135
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:39
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I chose destruction because I didn't want to sacrifice the soul of my species.
#136
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:41
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Shepard: "The Illusive man think that controlling the reapers is how we win this".
Hacket: "He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this".
Hacket: "He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this".
#137
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:45
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Iberius wrote...
I originally chose Destruction because ever since I played Mass Effect for the first time, destroying the Reapers has always been the goal.
This. But then i took Space
to the knee.
#138
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:48
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I destroyed because they deserved it. I felt also that the guy was attempting to manipulate me.
By the way, I'm the only one to think that whatever you do, it seems that you destroy/control reapers only in the galaxy?
Don't forget they came from deep space.
By the way, I'm the only one to think that whatever you do, it seems that you destroy/control reapers only in the galaxy?
Don't forget they came from deep space.
#139
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:56
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I choose control.
I believe that my paragon's influence on the reapers will stop them from preforming cyclical genocide and harvesting species against their wills. After all, legion was effectively able to mind control the entire geth race into helping you, why can't shepard do the same using the crucible.
They are both sacrificed, they both lose everything, but they also save countless lives in the process, and shepards mind is shown to be able to handle interfacing with a semi-synthetic digital world, like the geth's consensus or project overlord, and even intense strain like the prothean beacons and the cipher.
Is it a permanent solution, who knows? Destroy isn't a permanent solution either, it just makes it more likely that a new synthetic race will wipe out all life. But I felt that influencing the reapers into stopping their campaign was a better solution than genocide of the geth, and I just don't understand synthesis enough to get how it will solve anything.
I believe that my paragon's influence on the reapers will stop them from preforming cyclical genocide and harvesting species against their wills. After all, legion was effectively able to mind control the entire geth race into helping you, why can't shepard do the same using the crucible.
They are both sacrificed, they both lose everything, but they also save countless lives in the process, and shepards mind is shown to be able to handle interfacing with a semi-synthetic digital world, like the geth's consensus or project overlord, and even intense strain like the prothean beacons and the cipher.
Is it a permanent solution, who knows? Destroy isn't a permanent solution either, it just makes it more likely that a new synthetic race will wipe out all life. But I felt that influencing the reapers into stopping their campaign was a better solution than genocide of the geth, and I just don't understand synthesis enough to get how it will solve anything.
#140
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:57
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I chose destroy because it matches the colour of my shep's hair...
Seriously though? The same reason most people chose it, because it had been our goal from the beginning.
Seriously though? The same reason most people chose it, because it had been our goal from the beginning.
#141
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 07:59
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I chose destroy because that has been the goal for the entire series, not play space god or take away free will from the galaxy. Destroy imo was the less evil (even though it genocides the geth) of the options. Also this allowed my Shep to live.
Control: become what TIM stood for, Shep becomes super reaper space god which i cant find feasible or see my shep doing. Reapers still alive and wasnt the whole series about killing them.
Synthesis: goes with what Saren wanted, takes away free will from every species in the galaxy. To me the worst choice in the game, shep betrays everybody.
Control and Synthesis to me mean Shep giving up and becoming what he/she was fighting against in the previous games.
Control: become what TIM stood for, Shep becomes super reaper space god which i cant find feasible or see my shep doing. Reapers still alive and wasnt the whole series about killing them.
Synthesis: goes with what Saren wanted, takes away free will from every species in the galaxy. To me the worst choice in the game, shep betrays everybody.
Control and Synthesis to me mean Shep giving up and becoming what he/she was fighting against in the previous games.
#142
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:03
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Control scares me too much, I just don't feel like it is possible.
Destroy-ending brings about huge losses, but I have faith that the survivors can pull it through and live on. In a very different universe, but they will live. And Andersson took it... =)
Synthesis - I might have a FemShep or two that could fit that ending. I don't know, we will see when I play them.
Destroy-ending brings about huge losses, but I have faith that the survivors can pull it through and live on. In a very different universe, but they will live. And Andersson took it... =)
Synthesis - I might have a FemShep or two that could fit that ending. I don't know, we will see when I play them.
#143
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:03
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After heard all its bullcrap, I didnt believe near a word he was saying and thought it was a broken AI and it realized I just jacked its programming and was trying to stay alive.
The control ending made no sense... So, I'm dead, I lose everything I am, but the reapers will do everything I say? Umm....WAT?
Synthesis - "This will fix the problem" ya because you know that creating a new DNA will prevent the "created for destroying the creators".
The control ending made no sense... So, I'm dead, I lose everything I am, but the reapers will do everything I say? Umm....WAT?
Synthesis - "This will fix the problem" ya because you know that creating a new DNA will prevent the "created for destroying the creators".
#144
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:04
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When I first played the endings, I chose Destroy because that is what I/Shepard had always set out to do. Also, I figured Control was a trap since, according to everything we heard/saw, it was supposed to be impossible, plus he says 'do you think you can control them' or something like that, basically hinting it may not be possible, even if it wasn't a trap. When I thought about it later, it still made the most sense of the three, the only 'right' choice, in my opinion. After all, Synthesis forces people to become something they are not, and control does not guarentee anything, and is deemed impossible.
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#145
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:05
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Well I just had this lovely conversation with The Illusive Man about how he was indoctrinated. He wanted to control the Reapers. I also don't like violating the person of every being in existence. Basically it was the least garbage of three garbage options.
#146
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:05
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wantedman dan wrote...
I don't play or examine things critically my first time through unless I'm told to do so, ergo I picked synthesis and came to regret it after thinking on my decision. So, I played through again and picked destroy; it wasn't perfect, but it was the closest thing to what we've been desiring throughout the entire series.
This.
#147
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:10
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The efficient part of my mind demanded a destroy ending.
But the heart and will went for control, since it gave the Geth a chance to live. And i considered the Geth to be the more honorable species in the galaxy.
The green ending didn't happen.
But the heart and will went for control, since it gave the Geth a chance to live. And i considered the Geth to be the more honorable species in the galaxy.
The green ending didn't happen.
#148
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:11
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"In for a penny in for a pound." If I am going to destroy galactic infrastructure or the galaxy itself might as well take it all the way and destroy its inhabitants, none of this half ass bull****.
#149
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:12
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My logic was:
Control: Illusive Man wanted this.
Synthesis: Saren wanted this.
Destroy: Everyone else wanted this.
Since none of our Shep's took the time to maybe call Hackett over the radio and ask him what the Geth and EDI might think of our choices, majority wins. C:
Control: Illusive Man wanted this.
Synthesis: Saren wanted this.
Destroy: Everyone else wanted this.
Since none of our Shep's took the time to maybe call Hackett over the radio and ask him what the Geth and EDI might think of our choices, majority wins. C:
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#150
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:13
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The whole scene after getting to the beam (and harbinger leaving) felt strange... I was like "what's going on?". At first, I thought about what Anderson and Hackett said. We must destroy the reapers. Then I was wondering, "why can't I send that child to hell?"
Later I see TiM using the control "interface", the synthesys beam and Anderson chossing the "Destroy option"...
So, controlling the reapers... Nope, thanks, I don't trust you kid.
Synthesys... I won't decide for the entire galaxy, and thousands or hundreds of species that don't even know about space travel yet.
So, the only option left... I'm sorry Joker, I'm sorry for the geth and EDI... But this must be done.
I expected an outcome where my full paragon character would feel sorry about what he did. Maybe Joker hating me... Maybe the quarians... But Shep. is a soldier and did the right thing, s/he saved the galaxy.
But then I see the ending... Then I think, "yep, I'mmissing something, everything's wrong here".
Later I see TiM using the control "interface", the synthesys beam and Anderson chossing the "Destroy option"...
So, controlling the reapers... Nope, thanks, I don't trust you kid.
Synthesys... I won't decide for the entire galaxy, and thousands or hundreds of species that don't even know about space travel yet.
So, the only option left... I'm sorry Joker, I'm sorry for the geth and EDI... But this must be done.
I expected an outcome where my full paragon character would feel sorry about what he did. Maybe Joker hating me... Maybe the quarians... But Shep. is a soldier and did the right thing, s/he saved the galaxy.
But then I see the ending... Then I think, "yep, I'mmissing something, everything's wrong here".
