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[AlexMBrennan]

I shouldn't have to tell you that there is absolutely no scientific veracity or evidence to any kind of magic at all.

Magic is not the opposite of science - if I give you a pile of scrolls, and tell you that these scrolls cause some effect violating the laws of physics as they are currently understood then that is a scientifically testable hypothesis. You may not be able to understand how reading a scroll can break the laws of physics, but you have to accept that they do if the effect can be demonstrated in a experiment.

If you want the opposite of science you need to look at the attitude towards reality I.e. what you do when you make an observation which conflicts with your current understanding of the world: A scientist will change his theories whilst a non-scientist will stick with what he "knows" to be true (I.e. the opposite of science is religion)

[Errationatus]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

I shouldn't have to tell you that there is absolutely no scientific veracity or evidence to any kind of magic at all.

Magic is not the opposite of science - if I give you a pile of scrolls, and tell you that these scrolls cause some effect violating the laws of physics as they are currently understood then that is a scientifically testable hypothesis. You may not be able to understand how reading a scroll can break the laws of physics, but you have to accept that they do if the effect can be demonstrated in a experiment.

If you want the opposite of science you need to look at the attitude towards reality I.e. what you do when you make an observation which conflicts with your current understanding of the world: A scientist will change his theories whilst a non-scientist will stick with what he "knows" to be true (I.e. the opposite of science is religion)

Actually, the opposite of science is simple ignorance.  Faith is deliberate and willful ignorance.  Religion is ignorance as official policy.  

Science states "if this and this happens, and the result is this, it is true as long as it happens every time. Now we ask more questions."

Faith is flat-out stating "this happened, good enough. There's no need to question further."

Religion demands "this happened and that's all there is to it. Questions are not only unnecessary, but actively and adamantly discouraged."

Granted, this is has nothing to do with Mass Effect, but then little on BSN actually does.

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 14 juillet 2013 - 04:35 .

[Foolsfolly]

Valraine wrote...

 Could you say "no" to Legion? 

Maybe?

I don't know if organics have souls. It isn't exactly quntifiable. And I don't really understand why he's gone either. Geth share data and perspective. You'd think there'd at least be a backup of the guy somewhere.

But... Rannoch's ending doesn't make much sense either which way.

[o Ventus]

fchopin wrote...

One persons magic is another persons science.

Only if that person is unintelligent or ignorant.

But that doesn't actually make it magic, or any more scientific.

[o Ventus]

fchopin wrote...

There is also no scientific evidence that we even exist

WTF did I just read?

If you want scientific evidence as to whether or not we exist, quite literally every man made thing on this planet will give you an answer.

[Display Name Owner]

^ But what if we're all a figment of someone's imagination, man? You got to open your mind...!

No scientific evidence that we exist, lol...

[fchopin]

o Ventus wrote...

fchopin wrote...

One persons magic is another persons science.

Only if that person is unintelligent or ignorant.

But that doesn't actually make it magic, or any more scientific.

What you call intelligence will be considered ignorance in a future timeline so it all depends in which timeline you exist.
 
Intelligence and ignorance depends on the timeline and planet you exist on.

[fchopin]

o Ventus wrote...

fchopin wrote...

There is also no scientific evidence that we even exist

WTF did I just read?

If you want scientific evidence as to whether or not we exist, quite literally every man made thing on this planet will give you an answer.

I was going to give one of my long answers but changed my mind.
I will just say that if you need to talk to another person to know that you exist then your argument has failed.

[o Ventus]

fchopin wrote...

I was going to give one of my long answers but changed my mind.
I will just say that if you need to talk to another person to know that you exist then your argument has failed.

I guess it's a good thing I never said not implied anything of this sort then.

On the other hand, nothing in your reply even addressed my post.

[o Ventus]

fchopin wrote...

What you call intelligence will be considered ignorance in a future timeline so it all depends in which timeline you exist.
 
Intelligence and ignorance depends on the timeline and planet you exist on.

Is LSD not illegal where you live?

[KaiserShep]

Illegality does not preclude possession.

[o Ventus]

KaiserShep wrote...

Illegality does not preclude possession.

Touché.

[AlexMBrennan]

^ But what if we're all a figment of someone's imagination, man?

Then you have a non-falsifiable hypothesis, which puts it outside the realm of science. (But what if there is a teapot too small to detect orbiting the sun?)