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[Silasqtx]

/care

[cgvhjb]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

"there has to be a consensus"

Perhaps you've mistaken us with the Geth, as there most certainly does not have to be a consensus, people are entitled to feel however they like about the ending.

"What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending"

Once again, these are individuals doing the mocking and in no way representative of the whole, so please stop trying to damn everyone by lumping us all together. I mean for someone whose trying to fight against being judged you're being awfully judgemental.

[Dezerte]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

Generalising is bad. There's also "pro-enders" that mock those who didn't like it.

I agree with the rest though.

[digby69]

LordDeimos4 wrote...

The problem is most people who like the ending never give a proper explanation as to why they think the ending is so great. I'm fine with those people getting mocked.

like

[FreshRevenge]

free speech is a B1tch maybe you should relocate to another country that doesn't tolerate free speech! Than come back and write this thread!

[Mettyx]

LordDeimos4 wrote...

The problem is most people who like the ending never give a proper explanation as to why they think the ending is so great.

Exactly, and on the other hand people who don't like the ending are very coherent and thorough, they back up their  dislike with plenty of evidence.

So of course that people who like the endings are viewed as mockable automatons due to psychological effect of confirmation bias, they spent money on a product so they don't wont to admonish it.

Modifié par Mettyx, 05 avril 2012 - 10:19 .

[greghorvath]

LordDeimos4 wrote...

The problem is most people who like the ending never give a proper explanation as to why they think the ending is so great. I'm fine with those people getting mocked.

The problem is that most people who don't like the ending give retarded silly explanations why they did not.

I personally liked the ending, because:

1. It concluded the trilogy. Shepard died and his death was a meaningful sacrifice.
2. Nice graphics. I like colours.
3. Plotholes of this magnitude (the ones you end likers list are usually not serious, you just think they are) do not bother me. If they did, I would not have played anything after Shepard suffocated/was incinerated/was pulverized then the remains (hahaha, sure...) magically restored in the intro of ME2.
And to be honest, very few stories do not have plotholes. People just differ in sensitivity and comprehension, AND the capability to rise above the. Some people mistake artistic license for plotholes. I read a lot, so I have no such problem. 
4. Does not give silly explanations and leaves room for speculation concerning the origin of all things.
5... I will not list any more because the topic is not worth it

List your reasons and I will refute them all (well, at least most of them). Or on second thought, don't list them. They are all over the forum that you and your buddies are ruining. And most are not worth commenting on.

Could the endings have been better? Probably yes.

Is the ending of a video game worth all this fuss? Probably not.

Is the forum overrun by idiots and whiners? Undeniably yes.

Modifié par greghorvath, 05 avril 2012 - 10:27 .

[greghorvath]

Mettyx wrote...

*snip*

Exactly, and on the other hand people who don't like the ending are very coherent and thorough, they back up their  dislike with plenty of evidence.

So of course that people who like the endings are viewed as mockable automatons due to psychological effect of confirmation bias, they spent money on a product so they don't wont to admonish it.

Don't make me laugh.

On second thought, please MAKE ME LAUGH, instead of inducing pity and contempt with such a backward comment.

Modifié par greghorvath, 05 avril 2012 - 10:31 .

[cgvhjb]

greghorvath wrote...

LordDeimos4 wrote...

The problem is most people who like the ending never give a proper explanation as to why they think the ending is so great. I'm fine with those people getting mocked.

The problem is that most people who don't like the ending give retarded silly explanations why they did not.

I personally liked the ending, because:

1. It concluded the trilogy. Shepard died and his death was a meaningful sacrifice.
2. Nice graphics. I like colours.
3. Plotholes of this magnitude (the ones you end likers list are usually not serious, you just think they are) do not bother me. If they did, I would not have played anything after Shepard suffocated/was incinerated/was pulverized then the remains (hahaha, sure...) magically restored in the intro of ME2.
And to be honest, very few stories do not have plotholes. People just differ in sensitivity and comprehension, AND the capability to rise above the. Some people mistake artistic license for plotholes. I read a lot, so I have no such problem. 
4. Does not give silly explanations and leaves room for speculation concerning the origin of all things.
5... I will not list any more because the topic is not worth it

List your reasons and I will refute them all (well, at least most of them). Or on second thought, don't list them. They are all over the forum that you and your buddies are ruining. And most are not worth commenting on.

Could the endings have been better? Probably yes.

Is the ending of a video game worth all this fuss? Probably not.

Is the forum overrun by idiots and whiners? Undeniably yes.

You pulled a ME3 ending there bud, you invalidated 99% of your comments on why you're okay with the ending by resorting to name calling like a child. Nicely done.

Modifié par cgvhjb, 05 avril 2012 - 10:30 .

[res27772]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

I don't mock them... I just laugh silently to myself and wonder if they played the game at all.

[greghorvath]

cgvhjb wrote...
*snip*

We can all draw different conclusions from the exact same things. That is just what happened here.

[philippe willaume]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

If it is that painful, don't tell us report the post instead. There is a button for that.
Better even reply tro the post.
I.E lead by example, don't tell us what we should do, do it.

Now yes some people do, but if you had done due diligence you would have find out that there are a fair few constructive post from either side of the fence.
ie for example people that like the endings usually agree that the Normandy stunt does not makes sense or/and  that we could do with more closure.
Some will even go to say that the ending is not as well made as the rest of the game.
and people that disliked the ending usually recognise that there are some limited number of play through where bar the Normandy stunt, the ending works fine or that ME3 is a fantastic game up to that point.

Now the ending has been discussed in so many threads, that any blanket statement post will be seen as trolling and will attack flack like a box of B17 in 1943.
 
And really if you are serious about discussing the ending do it in the spoiler forum.
 
 
phil

[SirPetrakus]

I said right off the bat that I didn't want the endings to change. What I wanted to change, was the limitations to my options. I'm fine with the endings staying as is for the people who actually like them, regardless of how addled they all are.

j/k lol! You have a right to like whatever you want, brah. You are, how do they say it ... 'entitled' to your opinion.

[Arsenic Touch]

cgvhjb wrote...



You pulled a ME3 ending there bud, you invalidated 99% of your comments on why you're okay with the ending by resorting to name calling like a child. Nicely done.

Don't take that post seriously.
If he was serious, pity him.
If he was trolling, ignore him.

[Crypto109]

the ending still sucks :\\

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

This community has always been slightly disgusting yet tasty at the same time.

[Il Divo]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

You obviously haven't been on the internet long enough. There's nothing it doesn't mock.

[RobotRob]

Generalization...... Kills every form of argument you just had,,,,,,

[greghorvath]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

*snip*

He had a shred of truth, as the end whiners otherwise do.

But I do not take offense easily, so no harm done. Thanks for the encouragement, though. Wanna play multiplayer?

[Kondorr]

Only the endings of ME3 are worse than this thread

[Little Princess Peach]

Some people think here opinions are more valid than others, thats why sometimes in sites like these you get people being rude to others, I call this internet Issuess

[Ylhaym]

Mettyx wrote...
Exactly, and on the other hand people who don't like the ending are very coherent and thorough, they back up their  dislike with plenty of evidence.

I'm sorry, but this statement is not entirely true. Yes there are people who are very coherent and thorough, i don't have problems with them. But there are also people who were not.

"OMG ENDING SUCKS!"
"Yo Dawg ending"
"OMG SOL WAS DESTROYED BY SUPERNOVA!"
"OMG NO MORE MRelays ALL RACES NOW STUCK ON SOL FOREVER"
etc etc.

I've seen my many arguments before when some of the pro dudes provide a good argument while some anti dudes just ignores the argument entirely. Though there are less posters like that now. There was a time where anti ending post with a coherency is hard to find. 

[beyondsolo]

Katamariguy wrote...

 The majority loathes the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'm fine with that, after all, there has to be a consensus. What angers me is that these people are down to mocking those who are fine with the ending. No internet community should tolerate such attitudes.

There are always people who are looking for a fight, no matter the reason. I've been following this affair very closely, and you can believe that there's been a fair share of condescending posts and trolling on both sides. However, it has also been the exception. Considering that over 50,000 people voted against the ending, if every single one of them acted like you describe it, this forum would turn into an apocalypse.

Don't judge the whole of the community by the worst on both sides of the argument. And saying that you're disgusted by the whole community certainly doesn't help in any way, sorry.

[greghorvath]

beyondsolo wrote...

There are always people who are looking for a fight, no matter the reason. I've been following this affair very closely, and you can believe that there's been a fair share of condescending posts and trolling on both sides. However, it has also been the exception. Considering that over 50,000 people voted against the ending, if every single one of them acted like you describe it, this forum would turn into an apocalypse.

Don't judge the whole of the community by the worst on both sides of the argument. And saying that you're disgusted by the whole community certainly doesn't help in any way, sorry.

The following is realy not meant to insult. Truly it ain't.

50.000? Considering the sales statistics (reliable source needed) that is not much, is it? And it is safe to presume that the rest of the ME3 owners/players either do not think the issue is worth commenting on or liked the ending (with a small minority that hasn't found the forum yet), right?

Would it not be easier for you guys to just make peace and not post anti-end comments in EVERY effin' unrelated thread (not talking about this here one)? Cause it does sort of feel like apocalypse

Modifié par greghorvath, 05 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[XqctaX]

when it come to regular arguing.
something that i dont thinks is a bad thing on a forum
the logical and constructive arguments seldom come from those liking the endings.

so people can get frustraited sometimes. becouse the responce to valid questions
often result in insults back
(by the same few that mostly troll anyways, you know who you are)

but in all seriousness when i see flamebait, ad hominem attacks and so...
you know, posts simply made to insult or anger other people.
those are by far made by people that claim to be "pro endings"

i say claim. becouse those that like the endings just dont have a valid argument
to try and stop the anti ending peoples wish for better ending. period

So my conclution is that there are a few that claim to be pro ending
but infact that is only a cover for there real intentions which is "pro troll/flame"
and those should not be misstaken for the real pro ending people on the forum.
who are ussually both curtious and repsectfull