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[nicki92]

So... instead of actual new DLC missions or squadmates or new stories they are going to be forced to spend all their time to further explain (to those of us who are creativly-challenged) how we already know the game ended?

Thanks complainers.

[Noelemahc]

The way the press release is worded, it's pretty much explicitly non-interactive. For better or for worse, this would mean that unless they write on the edge of their seats, diligently balancing on the Balmer peak and consuming caffeinated and carbonated drinks in vast quantities, there will still be backlash about the end result.

There better be more than 5 minutes of screentime worth PER OUTCOME COMBINATION in there, 's all I'm saying.

[Static Veins]

This sounds great to me - exactly what I wanted.

My guess is that it'll do the following things (spoilers, obviously):

- Add in scenes that show specific assets you picked up over the course of the game in the fight over/on Earth
- Make the Earth battle more dynamic based upon how ready you were and how many assets you earned; it goes worse the less prepared you were, etc.
- Clear up what actually happened to your crew with you on the ground before the charge to the beam (by either re-adding in the deleted scene that showed them being killed and making sure they don't show up in the ending disembarking the Normandy, or it will show the Normandy picking them up).
- POSSIBLY explain the Catalyst some more
- Clear up the Catalyst's motivations ("yo dawg, we heard you don't like being killed by synthetics so we created synthetics to kill you so you don't get killed by synthetics")
- Show the aftermath of the battle
- Show what becomes of your crew once the Normandy crashes

[CroGamer002]

leonia42 wrote...

So who else thinks this press release was released a bit early..

Leaks, leaks everywhere!

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

ParagonX30 wrote...

Can someone tell me, when exactly in the last decades a "happy ending" became synonymous with "too simple", "too cliche", "too uncreative"??? Call me stupid, but i'll take the classical Disney Happy ending where everyone lived happily ever after over any pseudo "artistic" crap...Seriously, the ME3 ending doesn't need any clarification, since the whole thing is just a complete clusterf*ck...

Wakfu Season 2, final episode: Invasion from Hell itself, only other living survivor of the species of the main character turned out to be a traitor, who murdered most of the species simply because he was bored, romantic triangles, people dying in this show, etc, etc. Final episode was bittersweet, with the main character finding the remnants of his race, but having to lose them again, albeit termorarily, and one of the dueterotagonist  losing his master and inspiration in a show of heroic sacrifice. YET, EVERYBODY OF THE MAIN GROUP SURVIVES, SO IT'S STILL A 'HAPPY' ENDING. 

Death isn't deep, only a black-wearing emo bad-poetry-writing teenager would think that.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Dune01 wrote...

Stop ****ing damn it! They are doing this FOR YOU! They don't need a clarified or changed ending. THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU, THEIR FANS. So stop with the hate. It's not nice.

You are so easy to manipulate...

This is nothing more than a PR-stunt. IGN will probably praise it as "the change for the love of the fans".
We (the fans who they are trying to address) never asked for clarification. Not a single time. We want this steaming pile of crap erased and changed.

You don't speak for everyone. A lot of people said they wanted more closure, and BW said all along that that's what they're gonna get.

Do you really expect them to create an entirely new plot device that should support an entire trilogy based on 'demand'?

[kbct]

Queenie4000 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Also a good point. Of course, they could be hoping that this announcement will spur the retake movement to purchase other planned dlc they have coming before the ending patch. That way, if it turns out to be extremely unsatisfying, we'll have already paid for the other content.

Not saying this is the case, but it's possible.

^This 

I'm going to try and reserve judgement until the summer but I will not buy any DLC until I see what this "clarification" is.  If it is awe inspiring then I'll go back and buy any DLC that I am sure they have planned for now or the very near future.  I'm guessing there is already planned paid DLC and will go out as scheduled - by waiting until summer for this "clarification" release they would be able to string some people along and still make there projected results from the paid DLC.

Put me in this group too.

Hey BioWare, at least give us more that a sentence or two about what will be inside the EXTENDED CUT DLC. Give us some more details. Maybe a paragraph or two about it.

[tannim1978]

BecBec wrote...

Siven80 wrote...

Im not getting my hopes up tbh.

Unless is explains all the questions and plot holes of the ending.

This ^

yeah same here.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

From this moment on, I start praying to all of the gaming gods that it comes closer to something I'm satisfied with.

[Blarty]

So are we going to have at least a couple of months of people complaining about the EE DLC before it's released then? Not content to see that you're actions are prompting BW to act, so you now don't have the patience to wait til it's available, or any information comes out about it, because at the moment we know NOTHING about the EE DLC?

Even if they did completely change the endings for those that call any attempt of clarification to be more crud on top of other crud, who's to say that the new ending will escape your critical glare, or indeed that you'll agree with how the new ending is presented. And what if, shock horror, other people who are currently against the ending as it stands, look at the new content (given that we know NOTHING at the moment about what it is) and think that the EE stuff removes any concerns and issues for them, but you still want more changes?

[Leonia]

But Lucy, I want them to do MORE for me and only me! I WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED!

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I'm trying to believe this, but I find it hard to be convinced that this is real.

[cutegigi]

nicki92 wrote...

So... instead of actual new DLC missions or squadmates or new stories they are going to be forced to spend all their time to further explain (to those of us who are creativly-challenged) how we already know the game ended?

Thanks complainers.

you are welcome.
now brush your teeth and go to your room.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

ok, after this, i not have more interest to play again ME3, and mayby the series, Mass Effect come to dead for me.

[Gleym]

Blarty wrote...

So are we going to have at least a couple of months of people complaining about the EE DLC before it's released then? Not content to see that you're actions are prompting BW to act, so you now don't have the patience to wait til it's available, or any information comes out about it, because at the moment we know NOTHING about the EE DLC?

Even if they did completely change the endings for those that call any attempt of clarification to be more crud on top of other crud, who's to say that the new ending will escape your critical glare, or indeed that you'll agree with how the new ending is presented. And what if, shock horror, other people who are currently against the ending as it stands, look at the new content (given that we know NOTHING at the moment about what it is) and think that the EE stuff removes any concerns and issues for them, but you still want more changes?

It's funny that your lack of faith in us mirrors the lack of faith we have in you and your Bioware overlords.

[Anwarddyn]

Dave of Canada wrote...

The ending is the only one which inconveniences you

One of the major issues is that we are discussing THE ending. Not the endingS.

Besides the plot holes, etc etc there is still the major problem that no matter what you did, no matter who you liked or did not like you are still presented with the same A, B, C (more correctly R, G, B) no matter what you have done the the previous 2.9 games. That is not what were were repeatedly, and quotably promised.

Making THE ending more clear still leaves us with just one ending, in 3 colors. I don't need a happy ending, I would like the variable ones I expected.

[Nathan Redgrave]

This is as good a compromise as there's ever going to be. At the very least, it should clarify some of the uncertain points of the existing ending and give us an idea of what comes of our various choice, which are the most glaring problems with the current ending. It won't "fix" the ending for those who dislike the very concept of it, but an improvement is still an improvement, and as it seems to be free, I fully support this DLC.

I'm putting my current Insanity Mode playthrough of ME3 on hold until Extended Cut comes out, so my most recent playthrough can benefit from the expanded epilogue.

[Shivajichandran]

I seriously am hoping the vague wording "cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes" is vague
Wording on Biowares part. That does open up possibility of gameplay if the epilogue scene is gameplay as well. Also interesting point to note: the interview w Jennifer hale that was released today says that she hasn't been contacted about post game work. So either means that
A. Shepard isn't involved at all in the ending (BAD)
B. this was planned in advanced (interesting)
And to announce it before PAX is just a normal marketing move - build up hype and give players opportunity to ask questions MORE publicly that BSN.

And yes- bioware is a company. So it is in their best interests to fix the ending. BUT if bioware didnt fix the ending and made different games, they would probably still sell well. So really it's a bit of both - supporting fans and repairing company reputation.

[AkiKishi]

That seems like a giant waste of time and only likely to add fuel to the fire.

[BlacJAC74]

Metalunatic wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Blackmind1 wrote...

It isn't our, nor Bioware's fault that you have a sad/unhappy life.

Basically this.

When you're trolling and insulting people on the forums, you shouldn't start judging other peoples' lives.

Seriously, keep it civil all of you. No need for this childish behaviour.

I love these responses.  People are only being childish when they sling their pro ending insults, yet the people that write these type of responses ignore the 100's of arrogant, aggresive and insulting anti ending responses that always flood these types of threads.

Get over yourself and grow a pair, mate.

[chengthao]

nicki92 wrote...

So... instead of actual new DLC missions or squadmates or new stories they are going to be forced to spend all their time to further explain (to those of us who are creativly-challenged) how we already know the game ended?

Thanks complainers.

/facepalm

the endings suck . . . . if you can't understand that then maybe your the one who is creatively-challenged

[Dune01]

Fxnris wrote...

Dune01 wrote...

Stop ****ing damn it! They are doing this FOR YOU! They don't need a clarified or changed ending. THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU, THEIR FANS. So stop with the hate. It's not nice.

Err, pal.

They kinda did need to do something about it, don't know where you've been this past month but half of their fan base if not more have been in protest about it.

Doubt they'd want to lose the customers.

Theyre a company, not some sort of 'ghandi' avatar.

Listen, man. 
I've been carefully following the whole Retake movement and I support it whole heartly. The ending that Bioware gave us was unexplained crap. Artistic with all the colours, yes, but crap. But what they are doing now is just stupid. Bioware is giving a clarification of an ending for FREE so probably the whole Indocrination theory is falling to water. But if you ask me it is a good thing. If indocrination was true, you would get a DLC that you have to pay for. This way you get a clarification or maybe, just maybe a change, and they are still ****ing about it. It's not nice. How many developers change-clarify their endings? CDProjekt RED and....? Bioware.

[rizuno]

Some points that are popping up here.

1.) They gave you what you wanted, stop whining.
-This isn't what the movement protested for. Ergo, it is NOT what we wanted. It's a start, and I thank them for that, but it reeks of pacification. From the beginning Retake has been about the ending failing at being an ending, and we feel that there are much better alternatives out there. there were giant gaping massive PLOTHOLES. There was a lack of choice. There was a lack of continuity in the storyline. There was a distinct lack of actual endingS. I could go on and on and on.

2.) Happiness is not realistic.
-Of course it is. It's called hope. It's why we are able to get up in the morning. It's where all motivation stems from. When did 'happiness' become something that we shouldn't want or expect out of life or our entertainment? You don't want happiness in your Shepard story? Fine. That's the whole point, just like everything else in the ME series, it should be gamer choice. Where down the line in fiction did a 'happy' ending start to = 'bad'?

3.) You're all just haters.
-Sweeties...you have not even SEEN what 'hating on BioWare' could be. The fact that we're HERE IN THEIR FORUM discussing this PROVES that we still care, and care very deeply. I have never said, nor SEEN ANYONE say, 'BioWare we hate you, die' I see a lot of 'BioWare, we love you, please fix this' though.

[Dave of Canada]

Anwarddyn wrote...

One of the major issues is that we are discussing THE ending. Not the endingS.

The problem with the endingS are the lack of clarification, they explain drastic differences but do absolutely nothing with it as it always ended the same. Anything from epilogue slides to voice over explaining the differences between synthesis, control and destroy would create very drastic differences.

What happens with the Reapers under Shepard's control? What about the synthesis, what does it do? Ect.

[The Phazer]

Obviously we need more information, but this does not sound very positive.

Unless the clarification is "it was all a dream", then it will not solve several of the problems.