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[Nathan Redgrave]

nicki92 wrote...

So... instead of actual new DLC missions or squadmates or new stories they are going to be forced to spend all their time to further explain (to those of us who are creativly-challenged) how we already know the game ended?

Thanks complainers.

It's their own damn fault for giving us such a lackluster ending in the first place.

[Valkyre4]

Gleym wrote...

Valkyre4 wrote...

your example is completely irrelevant and moronic to say the least. When I bought my car I knew what car type it was I knew exactly what it was equiped with and its specifications. There was nothing about my car that needed to be clarified. The fact that it broke down shortly after means that my car was faulty and that it needed REPAIRS. Normally they change the faulty parts with new ones, the SAME ones. They are not going to put me a racing modified double clutch because the stadard clutch it had broke down...and I sure as hell am not entitled to tell them to put me something different in my car than what it had when I bought it...unless in your city you go to the mechanic with a Yugo and then you come out with a Ferrari, because, "hey"... your car "broke down" and the only way to be compensated is if the give you a completely different car than the one you bought...

Seriously if you want to find reasons to moan all the time, you need to find better examples/arguments. Comparing a car that breaks down with the poor ending of a videogame is one of the most retarded things i've heard lately...

I hated the ending myself but I dont believe that it is 100% unfixable and I will reserve judgement until I experience it.

The point flies right over your head and you call me moronic. Thanks. Here's the point that was being made, since evidently an analogy needs to be spelled out to you. 'Clarified' if you will. The type of the car is irrelevant. The clutch, all of those details you just piled in to pad out your post in some incoherent ramble as if it were to somehow deflect my point with whatever backwards logic that must make ME3's ending seem unbroken to you, are completely irrelevant. The car isn't the subject. The premise is. A problem has presented itself, and it needs to be fixed. Instead of fixing the problem that was requested to be fixed, a superficial cover-up was done instead, completely avoiding the issue that required addressing and focusing on something else entirely. That was the point.

the fact that you present your case by taking for granted that everything you spew out of your mouth is considered an undeniable fact is where you are wrong.

You consider it a FACT that the ending can only be fixed by completely being remade. Which is the most moronic thing ever anyway because you just cant undo what has been done... Bioware made that decision, and it was a bad one but changing it is the stupidist thing ever. Hey, lets supposed they completely change the ending like you want, and hey the new ending is again not up to your standards. What then? Petitions once again? We demand them to keep changing it and changing it? That is actually destroying Mass Effect much more than the bad ending we have now.

Why are you so damn sure that the ending cant be "fixed" with more clarification. The ending was vague anyway, how can you be sure what Bioware means with the term "clarification". When does clarification start? Who tells you that it cannot include more dialogue with the space magic uber awesome stupid star child that can explain things better and with more sense?

I hate it when you people just go bananas when you have not even a damn clue as to what "clarification" stands for. Reserve your judgement and relax already.

[Dune01]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Blackmind1 wrote...

It isn't our, nor Bioware's fault that you have a sad/unhappy life.

Basically this.

If you ask me, you are the single sane person on this forum.

[CARL_DF90]

If Bioware has really been paying attention, then all those plot holes and inconsistencies that everybody and his brother has been pointing out will be fixed. Here's hoping.

[Gleym]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

This is as good a compromise as there's ever going to be.

This is about as much a compromise as comedian Frankie Boyle's comment on ex-bankers being reassigned to teaching maths at school; "You have forty apples, and I have no apples. Give me all your apples."

[mcgreggers99]

Everybody just needs to CALM DOWN. Seriously. They promised to do something about the outcry. And they are doing that. Rearranging everything else that they had set in motion for the their DLC plans to make sure that we got the sense of "closure" that we were asking for. And they're doing it for FREE for heaven's sake.

I wanted the IT to be true, but they are the story tellers and I think giving them a second shot and the benefit of the doubt with this is important. I think forum feedback has played and will continue to play a huge part in what they actually put into this pack.

Yes we deserve a better ending, and now we will be getting one.....at no cost to us.

Life will go on and so will Mass Effect. I guarantee the next planned game or trilogy in this univers will work the ending out before they even get started,

[BiancoAngelo7]

I can't believe this is how they chose to do it....

They make a random press release announcement on some website, that has nothing to do with the game or its fans, and on top of that they decide to release "Cinematics and epilogue scenes"????

This means the ending they put in the game is what it is, and they're going to try to explain or clarify away all the plot holes, the bad writing, and most of all THE BAD GAMEPLAY???

NEWS FLASH you cant CLARIFY away BAD GAMEPLAY.

We asked for a NEW ending, or at least one that made sense like IT theory, and instead they are going to try and polish the turd that is the ending we got?

And why do this one day before PAX??? It makes NO SENSE.

Well, if this is true, then I will never be buying anything from Bioware again. Ever.

Man, I'm soooooo glad I didn't buy ME3 yet. Congratz on ruining your fans and ruining yourselves Bioware, if this is true, you have made a colossal mistake upon an already MONUMENTAL mistake.

[da mighty rEAper]

so no IT then?

[fern222]

Man in the summer? If  this is true that means that none of this was planned. They expected that people would love the endings.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

While I applaude Bioware for doing what hopefully will be the right thing, depending on how it's presented., I still don't know how they purposefully wrote themselves into a corner with their universe... all the mass relays being destroyed... well that's great, how are you going to ever do another game in the same universe now, when there's no way to get from system to system?

Here's to hoping they clear up all the plot holes and retcons they created with the final 10 minutes of the game, and the handling of some of the over arching plot, Rachni queen, the cutscenes of the battle showing the Asari flagship regardless if you actually rescued it or not way back when. etc.

[chengthao]

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
Death isn't deep, only a black-wearing emo bad-poetry-writing teenager would think that.

^this

[AkiKishi]

Shivajichandran wrote...
And yes- bioware is a company. So it is in their best interests to fix the ending. BUT if bioware didnt fix the ending and made different games, they would probably still sell well. So really it's a bit of both - supporting fans and repairing company reputation.

Depending on your experience this will be strike 3. Nothing Bioware had could have the pull of ME3 unseen.

[Stalker]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Dune01 wrote...

Stop ****ing damn it! They are doing this FOR YOU! They don't need a clarified or changed ending. THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU, THEIR FANS. So stop with the hate. It's not nice.

You are so easy to manipulate...

This is nothing more than a PR-stunt. IGN will probably praise it as "the change for the love of the fans".
We (the fans who they are trying to address) never asked for clarification. Not a single time. We want this steaming pile of crap erased and changed.

You don't speak for everyone. A lot of people said they wanted more closure, and BW said all along that that's what they're gonna get.

Do you really expect them to create an entirely new plot device that should support an entire trilogy based on 'demand'?

BioWare acts for minoritys here. Just look at the responses so far: it's safe to say that only 1 out of 10's problem was indeed "clarification".

Yes, I am a supporter for indoctrination and that would fit perfectly inside the story-line of ME3 and the trilogy.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

Blarty wrote...

So are we going to have at least a couple of months of people complaining about the EE DLC before it's released then? Not content to see that you're actions are prompting BW to act, so you now don't have the patience to wait til it's available, or any information comes out about it, because at the moment we know NOTHING about the EE DLC?

Even if they did completely change the endings for those that call any attempt of clarification to be more crud on top of other crud, who's to say that the new ending will escape your critical glare, or indeed that you'll agree with how the new ending is presented. And what if, shock horror, other people who are currently against the ending as it stands, look at the new content (given that we know NOTHING at the moment about what it is) and think that the EE stuff removes any concerns and issues for them, but you still want more changes?

A clarification DLC could retcon a lot of unpleasant things by shedding them in a different light. It's a common practice: you get a tv show that's going out of hand with its plot and at the end of the season they say 'oh it was all a dream'. Not the most classy explanation, no, but maybe the indoctrination theory was true all along, so it won't even be a retcon.

Modifié par Fisto The Sexbot, 05 avril 2012 - 01:59 .

[Getorex]

Valkyre4 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Way too little, way too late. Slapping paint on dogsh*t and calling it "clarification". You know how I would clarify sh*t? As a biologist, I would slap a piece of sh*t in a test tube with an equal volume of water, stir it into a paste, stick it in a centrifuge, spin the cr@p out of it (so to speak), pull the pungent clarified solution floating on top out. THAT is clarified sh*t. Do you want to drink it?

Of course you don't. It's sh*t water.

how about you tone that Sh*t down a little? Because from the way you are posting I get the idea that you really like sh*t and coprophilia...

If all you see is Sh*t everywhere, go someplace else where it is much cleaner or start talking and posting with a tiny bit of maturty...

This is Bioware forums addressing the gaping sore that is ME3's ending.  Of COURSE I see sh*t everywhere.  When you are in a pig sty...what do you see?  What do you smell? 

I am keeping the analogies simple for the simpletons that cannot seem to grasp simple concepts: illogic cannot be "clarified" into logic.  Irrationality cannot be made rational by "clarification".  You cannot make that ending work out by "clarifying" it.  You cannot make the blatantly illogical, disproven by the very game you just played statements of the starkid logical!  You just contradicted his premise for making the Reapers in the hours of gameplay prior in the very game he caps off!  You cannot "clarify" that into being anything but nonsensical.  No to clarity because it is NOT POSSIBLE.

Modifié par Getorex, 05 avril 2012 - 02:00 .

[ArthurBDD]

If it doesn't at least add some new options for how you respond to the Starchild, then it's still not fixing the whole "Why would my Shepard even listen to this little twerp?" problem.

I dunno guys. I wanna be hopeful. I want to believe that the plot holes are going to be patched over in a satisfying way (rather than offering some lame retcon). I want to believe that in those endings where you see Shep take a breath, you eventually see Shep reunited with his or her LI. I want to believe that the extra cut scenes and cinematics will make sure all my choices are reflected. I want to believe that there'll be an option to defeat the Starchild by pointing out the flaws in its own blinkered logic.

I want to believe that Bioware can write their way out of a paper bag again.

But after the DA2 debacle and now this mess, I really don't know. I'm not even sure that getting all the above will satisfy me at this point; I mean, it still won't change the fact that the whole "big-ass superweapon" idea is just about the most ridiculous cliche they could go for. Not to mention the deus ex machina starchild still being present at all.

[SonicDragon27]

Hopefully it shows that Marauder Shields actually survived and is living his life peacefully on a sunny beach in Lanzarote

Or at least that EDI and Joker can have cyborg children?! !!!

[ratzerman]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Not gonna lie... if Bioware gives me a reunion between Shep and Liara, all will be forgiven.

I have no shame.

It doesn't sound anything like that at all, unfortunately. They might say something tomorrow at PAX, so let's see.

You're probably right. But if not a reunion, at least a hint that it might be possible.

There's no way to salvage Starchild. The damage has been done. If we can't have a great ending, the least they can do is give us a happy one.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

I honestly don't know what to say about this. I'm going to wait for more details before I get happy or extremely pissed off.

[Alright-Television]

Where's my popcorn?

[Gleym]

Valkyre4 wrote...
[Rant]

So am I to take it that when-- sooo sorry, IF it turns out we're right and this was all just one big PR stunt to try and get people to buy ME3 again, you'll be right there with us when we call b.s?

[Lucy Glitter]

Weskerr wrote...

Considering the size and scope of the backlash, yes, I expected them to completely change the ending. Also, they never said in any official capacity that they would or would not scrap the existing endings. Their responses have been vague PR speak from the very beginning.

It would be an insult to all the hard work their own people put into the game to do that. 

adam32867 wrote...

i agree. whats with the people saying the ending was good because a sad ending is more realistic. if i wanted realism i would go for a walk in the park, not drop $70 on a game.

 

There are tons of people who play games for the realism or for the bitterness. Limbo is a perfect example of a popular but very sad game that is still loved by many. 

I don't think that's a valid argument to make, tbh. I think what you really mean, is that you felt the ending and feel of 3 was inconsistent to 1 and 2. Which I agree on.

rizuno wrote...

Well go find those people and bring them here, I'd love to meet them.

 



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[LittleEpicness]

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