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[rizuno]

METALPUNKS wrote...

How did I know that this would not be good enough for some people. Geesh you wanted a new ending and now you have it. I think it's pretty darn cool they are doing what they're doing. Some of us will enjoy every second of this. I just want to play more Mass Effect no matter how we get it and when. Also what did you think it was gonna be released next week. It's this summer that is not that far away. This stuff takes time and money, plus Bioware had no clue they were going to be working on a new ending. In a way it sucks because this crap is probably taking away from some serious dlc we would of had otherwise. They are going to listen to you, you'll the ending you wanted all along, why complain seriously!?

How many times do I have to go over this.  Read the article.  It's not a NEW ending.  It's not what we wanted.  I need some freaking clarification for their 'clarification'.  

[Dakota Strider]

For those of you that already totally love the game, and the ending: What are you doing here on the forums? If the game is so great, you should be replaying it. Back when Bioware actually made great games, you would never find me on the forums, until I had played through them several times. But I am guessing ME3 just does not captivate you as much as you claim, and you just want to troll, right?

[CerberusCheerleader]

The ending of Mass Effect 3 was rushed, but not the ending as a whole, just the ending cinematics. They wanted to have at least an additional cinematic that shows how Joker picks up your crew and several different cinematics for the "different" endings. They run out of time at the end and had to do some copy/paste/color-coding. And that's the only thing in Mass Effect 3 that they themselves are unhappy with. Everything else is exactly what they wanted it to be.

I'm not sure if they are aware just how much they are trolling their fans with this.

[Getorex]

Lightice_av wrote...

Name the games that started out epic and big and then continued as nitnoid and minor and were successful. Name a game that had big, bad enemy to...no real enemies, no real trial, no real problem to defeat, just a bunch of petty criminals or mercs.

Who says anything about "petty criminals or mercs"? Transhumamism is an issue that can divide the galaxy in two and create grounds for a giant war where both sides have a point and can be sympathized with, but neither can tolerate coexistence with the other.

Lets take Doctor Who for an example by the way; the Doctor can be saving the entire multiverse in one episode, and then be saving five people from a crashing spaceship the next, and both can be equally compelling and fascinating stories.

Deus Ex has this storyline in the pot.  They did it.  Don't repeat it.

[Cstyle]

Are people already finding new things to complain about?

[TheImmortalBeaver]

It's pretty amazing that they're going to all this trouble to appease all the, ahem, "opinionated" fellows on the BSN and releasing it for free. I think that the current endings could be pretty good with some serious clarification and expansion, so I'd say I'm pretty happy with where this is going. It'll be impossible to judge properly until we can play it, though.

[Persephone]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Where does it state that they don't know how to USE it?

Shepard asking Hackett what to do just before he tries the controls. He doesn't know. No one told him how to use it.

Magic elevator? No more magical than say....Biotics?

Biotics had a (ridiculous, but explained) justification. The magic elevator comes out of nowhere.

The Catalyst has been hinted at throughout the game

No, it wasn't. Shepard's guilt over the child was. Not the controller of the Reapers.

Don't care about DE. Not a plot hole but an abandoned storyline.

Many do. It would have had prior explanation. They abandoned it for something much, much worse.

"Starchild" looking like that is manipulation, plain and simple. Psychological torture for Shepard. Love that, actualy.

Headcanon. Nothing is explained about it in-game, and it shows up in the last ten minutes.

The synthetics rebelling against organics etc. is an old conflict.

Aside from the Geth-Quarian conflict, it was not present anywhere else in the trilogy, nor was it ever indicated to be part of the Reapers' motivation.

Choices being similar to Deus Ex doesn't bother me. Greater authors than Bioware's team have blatantly stolen entire plotlines. Ever heard of Shakespeare? Pushkin?

Doesn't make it right, especially when there was a game released last year that gave you almost the exact same choices (with better explanation).

Mess Relays being lost isn't a plot hole. It's a consequence. And I think they remain intact if you have a big enough EMS score and choose Control. (I've seen it)

Starchild says they'll be destroyed no matter what option is picked. Same stock footage for all three endings.

Cutscenes/Colors being re-used is an old tradition. Blue/red in M1&ME2. Not a plothole either. A cosmetic issue.

I never said it was a plothole. I'm saying it's lazy.

Strongest indication that what we see past Harbinger is a dream/illusion/desperate hope of a dying/indoctrinated soul.

Oh good, more fanwank.

Let me know when you come back down to Earth.

He doesn't ask WHAT do do. But "What do you NEED me to do?".

Not out of nowhere. But see it that way, if you like.

The Reaper at Rannoch foreshadows the Catalyst clearly. It's also hinted at elsewhere in ME1&2&3.

Interpretations/headcanons have existed ever since the first story about anything existed. Biggest one being the Bible. It has an entire SCIENCE dedicated to it.

Starchild/The Catalyst mentions the Relays for ONE ending, not all three.

"Fanwank" that is clearly supported by what we see past Harbinger's beam. If it turns out to be just a theory in the end, I can live with it.

[BurnOutBrighter]

"Clarity" won't make our Shepard's choices have meaningful consequences in the ending. #RetakeMassEffect

[Kaiser Shepard]

SynheKatze wrote...

So player agency seems to remain the same: none. I can't see why I should be happy with it, honestly.

So you want the entire game to be remade?

[mitthrawuodo]

i have a bad feeling. this is coming out too soon and i think that is down to how furious we have been and we will end up with another rushed ending

[PARAGON87]

I'm happy that BioWare is answering their fan's complaints, yet preserving their artistic integrity as a game company.

I hope BioWare takes this as a lesson by adding closure and providing their fans with higher-quality endings.

Also, I hope EA looks deeper into free DLCs, and not to use Downloadable Content as just another moneymaker for their bottom line, but as a courtesy to their regular fans.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 05 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[Persephone]

rizuno wrote...
But the worst one for me is that Shepard breathing scene.  Blow up self on Citadel, Citadel explodes, DESCENDS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE CRASHES ON EARTH and Shepard STILL ALIVE?  That's worse than all the fires burning IN SPACE.  How do you clarify that s***? 

IT. Illusion. Dream.

Easy to clarify, really. I think Shepard never actually left earth.

[Merwanor]

Well then I will have to wait for this DLC before I replay the game, but if this "extended cut" means that I still will have to aknowledge the logic of a genocidal entity and no choice of refusing to accept anything he says I will not see this as a fix. Because the current ending does not make sense for the Shepard I have created. Everything the entity says and suggests is moraly wrong on so many levels, Shepard would fight to the death instead of accepting any of the 3 endings.

I will have to wait for this dlc then before I even try to play this game again, because as of now, the ending makes the whole story a joke.

[kleindropper]

I see it won't be out until summer. If that extra time means a quality, explanatory ending that results in some variation and replayability, I am willing to wait. If summer comes and I get a slideshow, don't bother.

EDIT: the replayability is key for Bioware if they have an interest in SALE-ABLE dlc content for ME3.  Hopefully they've taken feedback to heart.

Modifié par kleindropper, 05 avril 2012 - 03:13 .

[Annoyed Dragon]

I guess most people that have a problem with the ending views it as a "Chewbacca Defense" Logic.

http://www.southpark...ewbacca-defense

[Persephone]

mitthrawuodo wrote...

i have a bad feeling. this is coming out too soon and i think that is down to how furious we have been and we will end up with another rushed ending

Summer. Could mean June OR August. Wait for the release date.

[rizuno]

Persephone wrote...

He doesn't ask WHAT do do. But "What do you NEED me to do?".

Not out of nowhere. But see it that way, if you like.

The Reaper at Rannoch foreshadows the Catalyst clearly. It's also hinted at elsewhere in ME1&2&3.

Interpretations/headcanons have existed ever since the first story about anything existed. Biggest one being the Bible. It has an entire SCIENCE dedicated to it.

Starchild/The Catalyst mentions the Relays for ONE ending, not all three.

"Fanwank" that is clearly supported by what we see past Harbinger's beam. If it turns out to be just a theory in the end, I can live with it.

Where is it hinted in 1 & 2?  bc that was a different writer with a different plan back then.

THE RELAYS EXPLODE IN ALL THREE "ENDINGS" HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAME

[CELL55]

Holes or not, if the Mass Relays are still destroyed, then a bunch of people are going to die and everyone will be trapped. Mass Relay destruction was my biggest problem with the ending, and if that still happens with the 'closure' DLC, then I will still be upset.

[TheKillerAngel]

digby69 wrote...

is this true? any other source?

http://investor.ea.c...eleaseID=662095
 

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 05 avril 2012 - 03:12 .

[WhiteVV1ings]

So, I'm assuming its just cutscenes and a epilogue. Hopefully it goes off the Indoctrination theory into something legendary. All I want is a rewarding feeling as ME2 but to a much grander scale.

[crazyrabbits]

Persephone wrote...

He doesn't ask WHAT do do. But "What do you NEED me to do?".

Semantics. He goes up to the controls, manages to blurt out, "What...I don't..." and collapses. He doesn't know.

Not out of nowhere. But see it that way, if you like.

You haven't given any evidence to the contrary. Without additional information, there's no evidence to assume otherwise.

The Reaper at Rannoch foreshadows the Catalyst clearly. It's also hinted at elsewhere in ME1&2&3.

Sure, the mission that occurs almost directly before the finale. That's not foreshadowing, and it still emphasizes how stupid their motivations are.

The dream sequences never foreshadowed the Catalyst.

There's nothing that foreshadows the "synthetics kill organics to save organics" from the previous games.

[iI]nterpretations/headcanons have existed ever since the first story about anything existed.[/i]

And that's fine, but the creators chose to end the story without resolving anything set up over the course of the game, nor did they attempt to give closure to the state of the galaxy.

In this case, "headcanoning" is stupid and shows a lack of effort on the part of the writers.

Starchild/The Catalyst mentions the Relays for ONE ending, not all three.

It's in his dialogue (all of which is stated before the decision). I'm not going to hold your hand for you. It's there.

Keep going. This is fun.

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 05 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[rizuno]

Persephone wrote...

rizuno wrote...
But the worst one for me is that Shepard breathing scene.  Blow up self on Citadel, Citadel explodes, DESCENDS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE CRASHES ON EARTH and Shepard STILL ALIVE?  That's worse than all the fires burning IN SPACE.  How do you clarify that s***? 

IT. Illusion. Dream.

Easy to clarify, really. I think Shepard never actually left earth.

clarification would seem to disregard that theory and then we are left with above plausibility.
I too, feel that IT is a terrific route the ending could take.  

[Corbinus]

Persephone wrote...

rizuno wrote...
But the worst one for me is that Shepard breathing scene.  Blow up self on Citadel, Citadel explodes, DESCENDS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE CRASHES ON EARTH and Shepard STILL ALIVE?  That's worse than all the fires burning IN SPACE.  How do you clarify that s***? 

IT. Illusion. Dream.

Easy to clarify, really. I think Shepard never actually left earth.

Oh for God's sake!
NOTHING to clarify here! It's just a gesture to fans who played MP.  Fanservice. A sight of hope because Shepard's story IS OVER.. You are not supposed to find real reasons why and how Shepard survived.

Modifié par Corbinus, 05 avril 2012 - 03:15 .

[Gleym]

I kinda love how all the pro-enders continuously mocked us because we pointed out that they 'didn't get it' as far as why we disliked the ending. And 'lo and behold, they prove us right by supporting this tripe and dismissing us as 'whining babies', yet again. Drones gonna drone, I guess. FYI, though, pro-enders venomously lashing out against the backlash? Watch this. It's a fully comprehensive explanation of how we feel on the subject and it even makes note of why 'clarification' is not the solution to the problem. Ironically enough, this video was created in March, before this announcement. So quit your 'omg even when you get wut you want you're not pleased!!!' ravings, since this was never what we wanted - just 'cause you're as easily pleased as always, doesn't mean that they actually did anything. At best, what, we'll go from a horrible five minute ending to a horrible 30 minute ending? Gosh golly, I can barely contain my excitement.