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[Archer]

Dr. Ray Muzyka, Co-Founder of BioWare and General Manager of EA’s BioWare Label. “Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding...."

By totaly ignoring the whole crux of the matter regarding their issues with the ending.

Mind you exactly what i expected they would do and exactly what i told all you IT fans they would do

I wont be getting it though. This series does not deserve the shambles of an ending it got, nor does it deserve that shambles to be clarified.

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 05 avril 2012 - 03:17 .

[yoomazir]

I bet my old Bioware games that the dlc will make things worse, mwahahahaha!

[Persephone]

WhiteVV1ings wrote...

So, I'm assuming its just cutscenes and a epilogue. Hopefully it goes off the Indoctrination theory into something legendary. All I want is a rewarding feeling as ME2 but to a much grander scale.

We'll have to wait for further details.

If it was just a few cutscenes & epilogue texts, they would release it NOW , not months later.

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Way for all you people that are whining to show your true colours

For the last month many have tried to clarified that the ending "didn't make sense and was full of plot holes"

Now that this clarification ending has been announced you're still complaining even though its set to address the "plot holes"

YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY COMPLAINING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE ENDING AND WANTED IT TO BE MORE OF A CALL OF DUTY PARADE PUPPIES AND RAINBOWS ENDING.

[Prism]

That's the problem. ASSUMING isn't helping with anything right now. I am personally glad that something is being done. Whether I will like it or not will be decided after I hear and see more, not RIGHT NOW.

Modifié par Prismvg, 05 avril 2012 - 03:15 .

[garf]

Shadowtirs wrote...

http://www.g4tv.com/...mander-shepard/

Just remember folks, all along it seemed like they reserved to keep Shepard around. My guess? They wanted to create a cliffhanger ending for 3, to then lead into the conclusion of the story through DLCs. They did a terrible job with the "cliffhanger" though, hence all the outrage.

If the ending wasn't so filled with plot holes and inconsistencies, it would have been masterfully done. They took a shot and they missed, and now they're taking steps to fix it. I reserve all judgement until this epilogue is downloaded and I've played through it. I will also not buy any DLCs (for 2 or 3) until I judge that the game was finished to my satisfaction.

And again, for all those people criticizing ME3 fans for being "entitled", you forget that we are CONSUMERS. So yes, we are entitled, because as consumers we have a right to be satisfied for a product we purchase. If ME3 was free then nobody could complain. But it's not, and we as consumers have rights!

This.

[fchopin]

Persephone wrote...


Starchild/The Catalyst mentions the Relays for ONE ending, not all three.

Sorry you are mistaken, if that is what Bioware wants then they will have to change what the Starchild said.

[Khayness]

Good luck explaining Godchild.

[llllshadowllll]

mitthrawuodo wrote...

i have a bad feeling. this is coming out too soon and i think that is down to how furious we have been and we will end up with another rushed ending

[Zalera1]

Not again.

Not that damn starkid again!!

[kleindropper]

WhiteVV1ings wrote...

So, I'm assuming its just cutscenes and a epilogue. Hopefully it goes off the Indoctrination theory into something legendary. All I want is a rewarding feeling as ME2 but to a much grander scale.

Heck, I'll settle for a Lucas-like re-edit showing civilizations cheering victory over the Empire Reapers a'la Return of the Jedi at this point.

[Mechler]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I have yet to see the "MANY irrevocable plotholes and illogical nonsense" (Bloody hyperbole, I am so sick of this being repeated at nauseam.... it has no more plot holes than ME2 ending(s)...)

-- Shepard doesn't know how to operate the Crucible. Does anyone? They didn't tell him???
Hackett repeatedly told you that they have no freaking idea what the crucible is or waht it does
-- magic space elevator?
More magic that saay FTL drives, biotics or the Lazarus project?
-- Character introduced from nowhere in last 10 minutes to explain the plot (macguffin)
That's not what a McGuffin is.*cough* Vigil *cough*
-- Dark Energy foreshadowing from previous games tossed out the door
What Dark Energy foreshadowing? AFAIK Dark Energy is the handwave magic stuff generated by Element Zero to make biotics and all the other magic tech possible.
-- Starchild somehow looks like the kid you've been dreaming about the entire game
Clarification. AKA the very thing that will be done
-- "Synthetics have to kill organics to save organics" hogwash
Seriously am I the only one who undertstands that idea? Sheesh. A creates syntethics. Synthetics kill A B C. But if Reapers kill A then B and C can live for 50000 years.
-- Ending ignores choices you've made through game; synthetic-organic cooperation is pointless
Your choices affect EMS which affect ending. ANd possibly the epilogue scenes that will come with the DLC. Oh and nothing stops synthetic-organic cooperation in the ASSUMIN CONTROL ending.
-- endings seem to be a direct lift of the final choices from the original Deus Ex
Do I have to list all the stories that stole from Tolkien? Or Star Wars? Neither of those two were 100% original either.
-- the "best" ending (the one that needs the highest amount of EMS to obtain) is "Synthesis" (Saren's plan)
Gives you an interesting new perspective doesn't it? The control ending was TIM's idea and that's also a very Paragon one. The difference is that Shepard can do these without allying with the Reapers.
-- "Synthesis" ending is ridiculous, uses unexplained technology and amounts to forced changes for all of galaxy
Actually the same description can also be applied to the other two endings. UNexplained tech, galactic consequences. And your point is?
-- "Destroy" ending has Shepard walk up to exploding generator for no real reason
No, the generator was not exploding when you were walking up to it. If you want to blow up the Reapers you should be pretty certain you hit the right spot. That's why we don't eyeball it
-- endings betray the themes set up throughout trilogy (free will, overcoming the odds, unity)
Control gives everyone a free will, but the reapers. Actually the only very radical choice is Synthesis. Since there were no galactic extinction, you did overcome the odds. Unity? Like the army you brought with you?
-- despite giving us hope in the prior games, endings all end with galaxy in hopeless situation
Everything is better than galactic extinction. Stargazer showed that the galaxy survived the mass relay destructions. The DLC will show more.
-- Mass Relay system is destroyed in all endings; no evidence to the contrary
Yeah? And? The DLC will show what happens between the relay destruction and stargazer
-- Cutscenes pretty much look the same (with a couple small differences)
There will be more cutscenes. You, know the DLC announcement you just read.
-- different coloured explosions (in three delicious flavours!)
You were hoping for one single colour?
-- No closure or resolution for squadmates, NPC's, Normandy, etc.
Extended Cut DLC. This is it's whole freakin point.
-- Liara or A/K flashback - any other love interest? Liara flashback for you!
Extended Cut DLC
-- squadmates teleport back to Normandy, even if they were shown lying dead on the ground after Harbinger attack
no one is shown on the ground. And I only saw Joker and EDI coming out of the Normandy.
-- Normandy is inexplicably fleeing during Shepard's decision? Really?
Worst part of ending, true. Again Extended Cut DLC
-- unexplained "Shepard Lives" scene (is he on the Citadel? In London? In space?)
Extended Cut DLC to clarify ending
-- bizarre "Stargazer" scene that has no real point
Actually it has a point. Show's that the Mass Relay destruction didn't end things, and Shepoard's story survived as a legend. I think Stargazer is the best part of the current ending

You're ignorant if you think there are no problems with it. This list is only scratching the surface.

Scratch up some more, if you would be so kind.

[Persephone]

rizuno wrote...

Persephone wrote...

rizuno wrote...
But the worst one for me is that Shepard breathing scene.  Blow up self on Citadel, Citadel explodes, DESCENDS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE CRASHES ON EARTH and Shepard STILL ALIVE?  That's worse than all the fires burning IN SPACE.  How do you clarify that s***? 

IT. Illusion. Dream.

Easy to clarify, really. I think Shepard never actually left earth.

clarification would seem to disregard that theory and then we are left with above plausibility.
I too, feel that IT is a terrific route the ending could take.  

All we can do is wait for further details at this point. PAX might bring some answers. If it comes out & sucks, we can still complain.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

woooooooooooooooow..... I hope this is true!

*drools*

[Dakota Strider]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

SynheKatze wrote...

So player agency seems to remain the same: none. I can't see why I should be happy with it, honestly.

So you want the entire game to be remade?

Not the whole game.  But ideally, once you arrive back on Earth, they can start there, and actually make the battle for Earth epic, like they promised in all their pre-release hype. 

Less than ideal, start at when they charge the Reaper Death Ray, in suicidal fashion, when our tactical decisions are removed, and Shepard and the rest of the alliance army suddenly turns stupid by ignoring everything they know about using cover and concealment to advance.

Least ideal,  Once Shepard is inside, before reaching The Illusive Man....the endings could be salvaged, without most of the plot holes, if they just started there.

[Rakshall]

I hope it will be long enough to give us that promised closure. If they will add only something like 30 seconds of cut scenes i guess they will start riots.
Extensions of stupid and terrible ending that is full of plot holes and illogical actions is still better than leaving it as it is IMHO. If BW will add enough content, the ending will change from terrible to bad - and I can live with that. The ending will still have very big negative impact on how i look on the whole series that i really enjoyed, but at least it wont cause any more rage (i hope so...).

[UnstableMongoose]

Can someone please explain how BioWare is "profitmongering by creating a cliffhanger" when this is going to be free? I find the lack of logic when discussing this topic to be inherently disturbing.

[Heather Cline]

Unless this extended cut includes the actual varying different endings we were originally promised and that includes what the game guide says is supposed to be 16 endings. No thanks, they screwed themselves. I don't want explanation/closure. I want the endings we had been promised back before launch. The whole 'artistic integrity/artistic vision' thing is a load of crap. Sorry BioWare but you just screwed yourselves with this announcement. I don't care if it is free, because frankly the whole AI child and then the other broken promises with the RPG mode and Story mode not having auto-dialogue among other problems... yeah... you just did the worst thing to this franchise.

See ya.

[Gleym]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Way for all you people that are whining to show your true colours

For the last month many have tried to clarified that the ending "didn't make sense and was full of plot holes"

Now that this clarification ending has been announced you're still complaining even though its set to address the "plot holes"

YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY COMPLAINING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE ENDING AND WANTED IT TO BE MORE OF A CALL OF DUTY PARADE PUPPIES AND RAINBOWS ENDING.

Nope. This is why we hated the ending. And that's also why this is not what we asked them to do. But nice of you to prove once again that Bi*drones will jump to any ludicrous answer to explain why someone doesn't like what they sheeple around.

[Siansonea]

I'm not getting my hopes up, not about this, or anything else BioWare is doing. When they announce their new game, I will have the most guarded wait-and-see attitude you can imagine. When they announce DLC, I'll withhold judgement until I hear from players who have actually played it, or have played it myself. I see the things they come up with in that Marketing department of theirs, and I don't trust them as far as I can throw an Atlas mech. I have no doubt that there are some very talented people who work at BioWare, and for their sake, I hope BioWare can be a company that compels me to preorder collector's editions of their games again. But that's not going to happen any time soon, not after the miasma of ME2 and ME3.

[Mriswith911]

Not sure what to think about this and not really sure I care. I'll probably play ME3 again just to experience the awesome game and then "hope" the clarification is actually worthwhile. If not then ME3 goes back in the cabinet or gets sold to Amazon. Future Bioware games will be purchased long after I can read actual user reviews instead of so-called critical reviews.

Such a sad waste of a Collector's Edition...

[Ryzaki]

Yeah my attitude on this is meh.

I'm not wasting more than 25 bucks on ME3. So whateves.

[HolmesLovesGuinness]

Sad news - seems very clear to me that this is NOT a new ending. 'Polishing a turd' would be a more accurate description I believe. 'Putting out the fire with gasoline' also springs to mind.

At least they are not charging for it, so fans of the current ending (all three or four of them) will not feel cheated.

[Gleym]

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Can someone please explain how BioWare is "profitmongering by creating a cliffhanger" when this is going to be free? I find the lack of logic when discussing this topic to be inherently disturbing.

It's called a PR stunt. In case it wasn't clear, the ending sucks so bad that the bad rep is making people not buy the game. By presenting this non-solution that looks like a fix, they create the illusion of having made amends, and thus all the clueless saps who don't realize this will buy new copies of ME3, thus ensuring that they continue to profit. On top of which, they've timed it perfectly so that all the drooling Drones and the ones desperate to latch onto anything that resembles an answer will lunge at those of us who see this for what it is and have us tear each other apart while they relax at PAX tomorrow.

Modifié par Gleym, 05 avril 2012 - 03:21 .