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[mr martian]

Heather Cline wrote...

what in the hell does IT stand for? Sorry and color me stupid but people using short hand for words that many may or may not understand is kinda crappy.

indoctrination theory

[Dav3VsTh3World]

rizuno wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Way for all you people that are whining to show your true colours

For the last month many have tried to clarified that the ending "didn't make sense and was full of plot holes"

Now that this clarification ending has been announced you're still complaining even though its set to address the "plot holes"

YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY COMPLAINING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE ENDING AND WANTED IT TO BE MORE OF A CALL OF DUTY PARADE PUPPIES AND RAINBOWS ENDING.

Point...missing it.

rizuno wrote...


Some points that are popping up here. 

1.) They gave you what you wanted, stop whining.
        -This isn't what the movement protested for. Ergo, it is NOT what we wanted. It's a start, and I thank them for that, but it reeks of pacification. From the beginning Retake has been about the ending failing at being an ending, and we feel that there are much better alternatives out there. there were giant gaping massive PLOTHOLES. There was a lack of choice. There was a lack of continuity in the storyline. There was a distinct lack of actual endingS. I could go on and on and on. 

2.) Happiness is not realistic.
       -Of course it is. It's called hope. It's why we are able to get up in the morning. It's where all motivation stems from. When did 'happiness' become something that we shouldn't want or expect out of life or our entertainment? You don't want happiness in your Shepard story? Fine. That's the whole point, just like everything else in the ME series, it should be gamer choice. Where down the line in fiction did a 'happy' ending start to = 'bad'?

3.) You're all just haters.
       -Sweeties...you have not even SEEN what 'hating on BioWare' could be. The fact that we're HERE IN THEIR FORUM discussing this PROVES that we still care, and care very deeply. I have never said, nor SEEN ANYONE say, 'BioWare we hate you, die' I see a lot of 'BioWare, we love you, please fix this' though.

OK Lemme address this

1. Thats what this DLC is addressing were you not paying attention to my post?
2. IT A REALISTIC SCI-FI F#%%ING WAR STORY, You can't expect it to be all happy and cheerful it'd ruin the entire formula of the series to suddenly be all happy and joyful, This also comes back to my original point about wanting the story to be your own, if you want it to be your own WRITE FAN FICTION.
3.ORLY? Tell that to the fans that wanted to sue Bioware over the ending http://social.biowar...281/16#11026853

[hallfing]

yo guys can we rage after we've seen the actual extended ending when it comes out?? cuz this is not making sense right now...

Modifié par hallfing, 05 avril 2012 - 03:42 .

[LegendaryBlade]

rizuno wrote...

Malice1979 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

In all seriousness, Bioware knows this isn't what we want. There's no way they couldn't know. They're just desperately trying to make the problem go away.

This perfectly sums up what is going on right now.

This.

Summer is a long way away for some people.  Time to move on, for wounds to heal; anger to fade.  

I hope they underestimate us.  This feels like cover fire as they run to the bunker.  

PAX is now a gajillion times more interesting.  

Thinking about it, announcing this at PAX was a good move. They can gradually deviate the questions away from "Why did you make the ending so bad?" to "What will the extended cut be about" and even if they get questions about the former, they can just answer with "Well, we appreciate that the fans didn't like it so we're making the extended cut".

They're pre-emptively covering themselves at PAX

[Hibernating]

Woot, well im happy. Its free and it will give us an epilogue about the ending.

[Stanley Woo]

i would like the name-calling and insults to stop immediately. If you want to disagree with each other, do so with respect and civility.

[nightsinger]

Good. We'll see if it'll be good enough when the DLC is available for download.

Modifié par nightsinger, 05 avril 2012 - 08:40 .

[Thrawn81]

Its nothing more than "Bull****" BW you fail!!!!!

[rizuno]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Gleym wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Way for all you people that are whining to show your true colours

For the last month many have tried to clarified that the ending "didn't make sense and was full of plot holes"

Now that this clarification ending has been announced you're still complaining even though its set to address the "plot holes"

YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY COMPLAINING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE ENDING AND WANTED IT TO BE MORE OF A CALL OF DUTY PARADE PUPPIES AND RAINBOWS ENDING.

Nope. This is why we hated the ending. And that's also why this is not what we asked them to do. But nice of you to prove once again that Bi*drones will jump to any ludicrous answer to explain why someone doesn't like what they sheeple around.

OH FFS 39 MINUTES??? TOO BLOODY LONG, give me the TLDW version instead, from the snipits I saw all I saw was nitpicking WHICH IS WHAT THIS DLC IS ADDRESSING

For you dearest, AGAIN

1.) They gave you what you wanted, stop whining.

-This isn't what the movement protested for. Ergo, it is NOT what we wanted. It's a start, and I thank them for that, but it reeks of pacification. From the beginning Retake has been about the ending failing at being an ending, and we feel that there are much better alternatives out there.

There were giant gaping massive PLOTHOLES. There was a lack of choice. There was a lack of continuity in the storyline. There was a distinct lack of actual endingS.  I could go on and on and on.  

[zoompooky]

Derek Larke wrote...

 An official press release went out
today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post
release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for
our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some
questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh
and it's at no cost to you - the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?
For
fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer
extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to
the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.[/list]
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No.
BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of
this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.[/list]
What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare
will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional
cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The
goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to
Mass Effect 3.[/list]
When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?
Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.[/list]
Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though
we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in
the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more
closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new
ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers
to the end of Commander Shepard's story.[/list]
So there you have
it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell
yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate
the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans?
Very much so and we are responding.

Be good to each other and Summer is coming...

[warchanter]

Malice1979 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

In all seriousness, Bioware knows this isn't what we want. There's no way they couldn't know. They're just desperately trying to make the problem go away.

This perfectly sums up what is going on right now.

No it doesn't. This release IS what I wanted, so I'm happy with it, and I bet there are many that think this was the wisest choice. Feel free to think otherwise.

[Heather Cline]

rizuno thank you.

[crazyrabbits]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

1. Thats what this DLC is addressing were you not paying attention to my post?

We still don't know exactly what it will address. "Clarification", at this point, could conceivably mean anything.

2. IT A REALISTIC SCI-FI F#%%ING WAR STORY,

No, it's not "realistic" in any fashion. What it is (or was, before the ending) was consistent in it's narrative focus.

You can't expect it to be all happy and cheerful

Oh good, more strawman arguments already disproved dozens of times over.

I'd ruin the entire formula of the series to suddenly be all happy and joyful

Like how ME2 allowed you to keep every squadmate alive? That's the very essence of "joyful". I did the impossible in that game, and was rewarded for it.

[Fxnris]

   An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan.
Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:
What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.
Be good to each other and Summer is coming... http://twitter.com/#!/darklarke

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Gleym wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

OH FFS 39 MINUTES??? TOO BLOODY LONG, give me the TLDW version instead, from the snipits I saw all I saw was nitpicking WHICH IS WHAT THIS DLC IS ADDRESSING

Oh, goodie. So you intentionally decide to choose ignorance and just insult us without even bothering to research exactly what it is people are displeased about, and then expect people to listen to you while you whine at us to 'stooop beeiiiin meeeeaaaaan' to 'poor Bioware'. How 'bout you just sit your poor ADHD-riddled self down and watch it? I'm sure that all the big words must be hard for you to follow, but take heart, it's really not that complicated.

You gave me a bloody 39 minute video and you expect me to watch all that? CONDENSE IT DOWN I DON'T HAVE 39 minutes to spare, how the hell can it "not be that compicated" when you linked me a 39 minute video,If you think I'm gonna argue at ALL THOSE POINTS then you clearly cannot think for yourself

[OdanUrr]

Persephone wrote...

Not confirmed.

If that were true, they would release it NOW and not need months of dev time. I'm expecting a Legacy-sized DLC at this point. And they can pull that off.

Cinematics take time. More so if you intend to craft cinematics to depict every single one of your choices (fate of quarians, geth, krogan, salarian, asari, companions, etc.). They simply cannot release it NOW because most devs are probably taking some well-deserved time off and are not actively working on it.

I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect them to release a "Legacy-sized" DLC.

[_FLANDERS]

But what do we get before some time in summer.

[yarpenthemad21]

nice news
but it can be done in 2 ways.
its not IT or other dream scene, its real. we get some scenes about normandy and how it escaped, clarifitation that this mass relay explosion is "different". we have this "artistic" vision with longer video.
its possible, and can be done in 2 weeks. not much work.

second way
its IT, dream or other twist scene. we get additional scene after the "ending", some dialogs, final scenes and conclusion with choices. we dont need gameplay, just some cinematics, or game engine scenes.
we get ending, some slide show about crew, races and what happend with them. just standard rpg ending. its a place when war efforts could make big difference making the final from big epic fail to almost happy ending.
but its a lot of work. a lot of scenes, a lot of differences. if they havent planed this, its several months of work.

[crazyrabbits]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

You gave me a bloody 39 minute video and you expect me to watch all that? CONDENSE IT DOWN I DON'T HAVE 39 minutes to spare, how the hell can it "not be that compicated" when you linked me a 39 minute video,If you think I'm gonna argue at ALL THOSE POINTS then you clearly cannot think for yourself

If you're posting on this forum (multiple times, I might add), you have time to spare. Watch it tonight if you don't have time now.

[jcmccorm]

No charge? Great. Just a bit of polishing? Meh. I'll certainly wait and see if they manage to deliver something great, and if they do, I'd absolutely love that. But I'm not betting on them getting it right.

If they can pull me back in somehow, great, I'm a customer again. If not, oh well.

[Taritu]

Working so far, in that enough people will say "wait and see" but I think this half-hearted effort isn't going to work in the long run. Clarification rather than fixing is unlikely to make the ending good enough.

Clarification means "we're geniuses but hey, you didn't get it."

Ooookay. No, Bioware made a bad ending. And it looks like they've decided to put their egos first and both the business and the fans second.

I would be shocked if there isn't a price for that, and if that price isn't paid by the people making the decision for years to come. Putting your ego first generally has a high cost.

Personally, if you don't do this to my satisfaction, not only will it cost you money in the future, but I will turn from a fanboy into someone who goes out of his way to badmouth your company in the future in a way that costs EA money.  You made promises, and you failed to deliver on them.

Modifié par Taritu, 05 avril 2012 - 03:51 .

[Malice1979]

[quote]warchanter wrote...

[quote]Malice1979 wrote...

[quote]LegendaryBlade wrote...

In all seriousness, Bioware knows this isn't what we want. There's no way they couldn't know. They're just desperately trying to make the problem go away.[/quote]

This perfectly sums up what is going on right now.

[/quote]

[quote]No it doesn't.[/quote]

Yes it does.

[/quote]This release IS what I wanted, so I'm happy with it,[/quote]

Good for you.

[quote]and I bet there are many that think this was the wisest choice.[/quote]

Good for them.

[quote]Feel free to think otherwise.[/quote]

I will but thank you for giving me permission to do so.

[Kalms]

Jackster94 wrote...

C'mon retake guys get a life. If a game ending pisses you off that much that you start a movement you need a wake up call

I think they are the wake-up call.