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[rizuno]

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Mass Effect 3 has cancer

BioWare's cure?


Robotussin.

It's more like they're adding even more cancer to it....if that's even possible.

Right?  I was just about to go type this exact thing lol.  I'll wait and see, but they're not giving us a lot to work with, are they?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Mass Effect 3 has cancer

BioWare's cure?


Robotussin.

It's more like they're adding even more cancer to it....if that's even possible.

Was a joke but yeah, they are trying to treat cancer by making the cancer larger and more artsy

[Grey21]

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

l_dambrun wrote...

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Waiting to see what "listening to fans" means. Trust is a bit difficult to give by now to any games.
I hope it'll settle things but... I admit, I'm a bit scared.



Wait and see.... and hope ?

Finaly I'd like to say thanks for the game and the efforts done for about theese 80 hours of game from Me 1 to Me 3 (actually 80h and 10 minutes but the last ten minutes.. well you know. I prefer replace it with my imagination)

I'll be looking foward to that DLC but only 'cause I'm curious and love the mass effect style/universe/races/characters. Nothing more.

They don't give a crap about what fans what, they are proud of endings. They are just giving us some cheap cutscenes and epilogues which might be just text and that's it. That doesn't mean they listen to what we want.

Probably not, but I don't necessarily want them to make what 'we want' because we all want different things.

However I do expect them to make an ending that:

- incorporates our choices (and not just puts them in a big military strength score that does little for the outcome),

- is logical,

- is believable,

- is satisfying,

- and compleet.


- Right now it is none of these things, and based on this FAQ it will likely never be. The current ending just doesn't make sense, fans have proven this, and they did so in a way that required more combined afford than Bioware put into the ending itself. If BIoware doesn't use their input to atleast make the ending sensible than I swear I will never buy another Bioware game (or books (I've bought 5 already)).

[rizuno]

Urbonov wrote...

Further clarification to the nature of the DLC on the Bioware blog

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Little depressing, but I'm still willing to see it through.

Yet one more slap in the face.  That's an upseting read for me.  

[Steven Kroh]

Way to ignore our concerns and stand by your crap-tastic ending, Bioware. We tried to help you with indoctrination theory, and it would have made for great DLC. If you had put the right spin on it, you may have even gotten people to pay for it. I certainly would have.

This new DLC is going to be free, and I don't even want to download it.

[Heavenly_King]

This (or a different ending) is what I was expecting, really. I hope that throughout the new cinematics, that the "space magic" is explained

Thanks for listening to the fans XD

[N7Infernox]

This could work fantastically... or fail hardcore.

[Sir Fluffykins]

I don't mind Bioware staying true to their artisitc side as long as they can explain to me how the universe exploding and everyone dying to 3 colours (serious exaggeration, but don't feel like going into it) is a great ending.

THAT SAID: YES, AN EPILOGUE! The biggest problem I had was no explanation on how anything I did had anything to do with anything!

THIS EPILOGUE, EVEN IF IT'S TEXT BETTER BE EXTENSIVE! I want to know if tricking out the Citadel saved lives, I want to know who got home, who died. Did Shepards Mom make it, Did Tali build a home and if Shepard survived was he there, did Garrus and Shepard have drinks on a beach watching Reapers burn, did Mouse make it, did Thanes son live a happy life, did Aria finally get stabbed in the back. I WANT AN OVERLOAD OF POINTLESS INFO FOR 20 MINUTES BASED ON EVERYTHING DONE FOR 3 GAMES

AND I WANT IT TO BE DIFFERENT RELATED TO THE CHOICES MADE IN ALL 3 GAMES AND TO THE FINAL ENDING DECISION.

I know, I know, "I want I want", but when I preoreder ME3, the finale to an epic trilogy and found it to be a truely brilliant game, I felt gutted by that bizarre -was-it-indoctrination-your-choices-meant-nothing-what-happened-to-everyone ending.

I'll have to see it to see if I like it to thank Bioware, but until then

THANK YOU BIOWARE FOR TRYING

Modifié par Sir Fluffykins, 05 avril 2012 - 04:40 .

[Toki82]

Why claim artistic integrity when you're under EA ("arts") which clearly is in it for the money. In my opinion both "art" and "integrity" is none of their bigger concerns. I enjoyed the game until the final speech with Anderson, then in my eyes, it all went haywire. It didn't even fell like a twist, just something rushed. I believe the people in Bioware are/were people with visions and I believe that they could have pulled off this kind of ending if they weren't rushed. I will see when summer comes, if I care anymore, if I will check out the "extended" ending.

For five years I've followed the ME series and I was very excited about this last one. But I guess two years in the making isn't enough. Guess I expected more than the "average" consumer, but wasn't that what it was all about? I guess not, selling the most copies and getting the highest scores with the biggest magazines was what it was all about?

Also, I enjoyed multiplayer, that was a surprise for me. Maybe I'll play it a bit more, but I don't feel like supporting EA in any way on anything. And by the way; what features does Origin have that is beneficial to the user? I've yet to experience any.

[Olueq]

Free DLC!? Im so excited I dont have to pay!...................So this really isnt even DLC, its just a patch to fix a glitch. The glitch being the ending itself. And from the sounds of it, it doesnt even do that. Hilarious.

[Grey21]

rizuno wrote...

Urbonov wrote...

Further clarification to the nature of the DLC on the Bioware blog

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Little depressing, but I'm still willing to see it through.

Yet one more slap in the face.  That's an upseting read for me.  

Indeed. They're basically saying the ending was perfect and we are all just too stupid to understand it. So they now have to further explain it to us with addition cutscenes.

It is the opinion of the majority that the ending is unsatisfying and they want a new ending. However I can understand that Bioware can't lissen to such requests.

However the ending has been thoroughly analyzed and found illogical, which is fact. Another fact is that it didn't deliver what they promised it would.

The ending isn't smart at all, it is on the level of Sucker Punch and The Matrix Revolution. It is the whole 'lets act cool, make things confusing and hopefully people will think we're smarter then they are. If we're lucky some of them will pretend they get it too, and the rest will keep quiet because of it'. It is insulting.

[neilthecellist]

God, Bioware, you just don't get it, do you know? We HATE THE EXISTING ENDINGS. Tacking on additional cutscenes isn't going to FIX the problem. It just COMPOUNDS IT.

You're still not giving us 16 different endings like you had originally promised, and a lot of my friends, and even general colleagues, even PROFESSORS at my university are still going to boycott your game. They're going to pirate your DLC, because this announcement you're making just doesn't solve anything. And I want to stop them, but I'm powerless to do so.

You're taking a step in the right direction.
You're not giving us the right results.
TRASH the old endings, they make NO SENSE. Give us the dark energy theory that the original Mass Effect writer wanted to do. This game makes NO SENSE at the end.

The ending isn't smart at all, it is on the level of Sucker Punch and The Matrix Revolution. It is the whole 'lets act cool, make things confusing and hopefully people will think we're smarter then they are. If we're lucky some of them will pretend they get it too, and the rest will keep quiet because of it'. It is insulting.

THIS!!!!!!

Modifié par neilthecellist, 05 avril 2012 - 04:41 .

[Dr. Scarabus]

There's a reasonable explanation for Bioware doubling down on the ending, and it has nothing to do with artistic integrity. Let's say hypothetically that a VERY expensive Mass Effect sequel is in the works. Now let's say this sequel requires that none or nearly none of the mass relays work at the beginning in order to gate content. Let's also say that this sequel requires all the ME races in close proximity to each other in order to justify players of different races starting in the same area. Can you smell what The Rock is cookin?

Nothing can be changed because EA's next cash cow depends on it.

[McAllyster]

This announcement is an epic fail.

NO, Bioware.

I want a NEW ending, not an extended version of the same crap. Extended crap is a crap too.

[Toki82]

Only it's longer.

[Stinkface27]

The worst part of this is that it means the ending was literal. So much for my favorite theory

Since they aren't fixing it or changing it, just adding to it, I can't help but worry that this will just make things worse.

We'll see! Thanks for making it free anyway.

[Kathleen321]

Why are you all getting your hopes up? They aren't changing the ending. They are adding to the endings that we all hate. How is that supposed to satisfy any of us? Those endings contradicted everything that the Mass Effect series was and they still don't get it.

f1r3storm wrote...
 The goal of the DLC is not to
[*]provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional
context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.[/list]

[*]

[G3rman]

Funny how throughout this entire thread, there isn't just two sides of an argument. There is one solid side that supports this or doesn't care, while the other is each person asking for their own specific wish for an ending. Some may agree they want something logical, but what that entails they will differ on. Some say they want it happy, but others say that wouldn't make sense and want a bleak ending.

BW was never going to give you a new ending personalized for your tastes, that's just wishful thinking. Your entire movement is flawed in the fact it has no one unified answer to what its asking for, and BW should not have to slave over every one of your opinions and win you over.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

rizuno wrote...

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Mass Effect 3 has cancer

BioWare's cure?


Robotussin.

It's more like they're adding even more cancer to it....if that's even possible.

Right?  I was just about to go type this exact thing lol.  I'll wait and see, but they're not giving us a lot to work with, are they?

You know what they say, great minds think alike lol. But yeah, they really aren't. And the whole "We are proud of the endings!!!1" thing makes it seem like things won't be very different and they are just expanding the crap with even more crap.

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Mass Effect 3 has cancer

BioWare's cure?


Robotussin.

It's more like they're adding even more cancer to it....if that's even possible.

Was a joke but yeah, they are trying to treat cancer by making the cancer larger and more artsy

Yeah, I know it was a joke...and a pretty spot on one at that. The endings are just three huge tumors which they are making even larger now.

Grey21 wrote...

PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

l_dambrun wrote...

.....


Waiting to see what "listening to fans" means. Trust is a bit difficult to give by now to any games.
I hope it'll settle things but... I admit, I'm a bit scared.



Wait and see.... and hope ?

Finaly
I'd like to say thanks for the game and the efforts done for about
theese 80 hours of game from Me 1 to Me 3 (actually 80h and 10 minutes
but the last ten minutes.. well you know. I prefer replace it with my
imagination)

I'll be looking foward to that DLC but only 'cause
I'm curious and love the mass effect style/universe/races/characters.
Nothing more.

They don't give a crap about what fans
what, they are proud of endings. They are just giving us some cheap
cutscenes and epilogues which might be just text and that's it. That
doesn't mean they listen to what we want.

Probably not, but I don't necessarily want them to make what 'we want' because we all want different things.

However I do expect them to make an ending that:

- incorporates our choices (and not just puts them in a big military strength score that does little for the outcome),

- is logical,

- is believable,

- is satisfying,

- and compleet.


-
Right now it is none of these things, and based on this FAQ it will
likely never be. The current ending just doesn't make sense, fans have
proven this, and they did so in a way that required more combined afford
than Bioware put into the ending itself. If BIoware doesn't use their
input to atleast make the ending sensible than I swear I will never buy
another Bioware game (or books (I've bought 5 already)).

Well a lot of us have been asking for the same things, like you said....logic, believability, satisfaction etc. and the possibility to have a "happy" ending, things which wouldn't be that hard to accomplish if they added alternate endings and just keep the crap color swaps for the people that enjoy them. But they are proud of the crap they produced which is pretty much a lost cause. I doubt a few cheaply made cutscenes and epilogues will "fix" things.

[SonicDragon27]

L00p wrote...

Win. You sir must be EA CEO John Riccitiello in disguise.