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[bowery tuff]

BerzerkGene wrote...

Everyone who is pissed at the fact there are no new endings, please put your rage down to simmer. Until you see what they do, you don't know if it will suck or be awesome, we have to wait and see.
I was disappointed and angry about the endings as much as the next guy, i will continue to say so, loudly and with blatant amounts of sarcasm firing. I am glad they are including an epilogue, that was entirely necessary. "Clarifying" is...well, a little suspect, how do you clarify something that makes no sense? Expanding...also suspect, while i would like to see a bit more about how all this stuff comes about, because as soon as i get to the citadel(hell, even a little before then) i'm just like what the f*ck is going on? Not sure if you can fix that with more scenes guys.
The very end itself is where narrative coherence goes out the window and leaves us with about 75 questions, as well as sadness, disappointment and finally, massive rage.
If not handled correctly, your core fanbase will abandon you, or at the very least, somewhere between 30-70 thousand will. I know i will. I won't even care how DA3 turns out at this rate. I'll just stick with Prototype 2, Ubisoft(i hope to god(that i don't believe in) that they do not get purchased by EA), and others who don't screw me around.

I agree. Hated the endings and have one eyebrow raised at this announcement but I'm willing to wait and see what happens. We know next to nothing at this point past clarification and epilogue. As I said before, if we get these extensions and I still hate the endings, I'll move on from the Mass Effect franchise, as sad as that is. I'll look at Bioware the same way as I look at a movie/tv studio or an author who I felt dropped the ball. I'll simply be much less trusting with future releases. I'm not saying people shouldn't be skeptical (I totally am) or some of the doomsday predictions may not be true, I'm just saying we have no idea exactly what's coming at this point. I was saying "uh oh" during the sixth season of Lost but I still watched the finale. It was terrible, I raged and now I have no interest in anything Lost-related.

[Super.Sid]

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

[Getorex]

ShdwFlash wrote...

What worries me is that with the extended cutscene, will it make my choices throughout the 3 games matter more? Because at the moment everything still boils down to 3 choices....

It probably won't. What BioWare did now is simply doing something half-assed again. They dont want to go the full mile in solving this problem and it will come back to bite them.

If it is worth doing, it is worth doing well!

I'll give the quick synopsis of what you will see:

Blue ending: ?

Green ending: Everyone with green glowing eyes.  Geth and Quarians shown on Rannoch (those who didn't get stuck around Earth) holding hands, singing songs (if you reconciled everyone).

Joker pounding into EDI from behind.

Your LI all glowy eyed with a baby somewhere.

Tuchanka with glowy-eyed Krogan working at rebuilding with little Krogans running around (if you didn't screw the Krogan).  Not Wrex though and not Grunt.  They're stuck around Earth.

You get the drift. 

Red ending: all he same above but without Geth and poor Joker not pounding anyone.  MAYBE Shepard busted up and alive on Earth while everyone else is Lost in Space (including LI with baby).  Shepard, however, accused of genocide.

There.  That's all you need to know what "clarification" means.

[SimonM72]

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

?

I'd like some of what Ms. Merizan is smoking to help ease the pain here because none of that is possible with the current ending... even after 'clarification'.

[sillyrobot]

Pity.

I was hoping to pick the game up, but it is looking very much like the artist's vision doesn't mesh sufficiently with my own to warrant a purchase.  I'll check the reviews, but I am no longer hopeful.

[Iamyew]

Only Bioware could have such a massive announcement and still give us nothing. it just goes to show what we can expect in the future. This is not enough bioware... but I think we can all see that it's all we're going to get. There is no more line to hold, no more worthwhile chastising remarks, only a hollow victory remains. Now, as fans we are faced with a very simple question, "Can we trust Bioware to make quality games in the future?" Based on their track record we can, but now that they are teamed up with EA and now that we can see what that cooperation has produced... I'm not going to say I don't trust Bioware anymore because at least they did something, but the point is they shouldn't have needed to do anything; they made an ending bad enough that eventually they had to do something about it due to a massive outcry, and they did it to save their own skins, not for the fans. anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself here. Bioware, you have done exactly what you set out to do; I now trust you just enough to buy products from you, but I will not be buying them from you until I read player reviews. This whole ordeal was a fiasco, and it is strike 1&2 in my book. one more screw up and I (as I am sure many others will agree) will never purchase from you again. on that note, thank you for doing something for the fans even though it was selfishly motivated.

Before this, we held the line...

[wafflez]

So it will just add an epilogue but not change the RGB explosions? Okay then.

[ParagonGreg]

This isn't for the fans. This is for the press to print "Bioware gives fans what they want" so that Bioware can go back to their normal antics. Lest we forget Deception, Origin, Day-1 DLC, etc.

[Biotic_Warlock]

How much will it cost...?

[chotito]

REST IN PEACE.

[Urbonov]

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

0_o

Link? Pics? I would very much like to see this tweet please.

[Super.Sid]

SimonM72 wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

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I'd like some of what Ms. Merizan is smoking to help ease the pain here because none of that is possible with the current ending... even after 'clarification'.

U can search through her twitter posts

https://twitter.com/#!/jessicamerizan

I know that when something is done is writing it becomes evidence. It does calm a lot of nerves but we will have to wait and see.

[Gurka84]

[eoinnx03]

It would be funny if I wasn't such a fan of mass effect. They have made the situation far worse for themselves and it appears they still don't know that yet.
Oh well. I'm done now with Bioware, and I'd like to thank them for great gaming memories for that last decade or so.
I wanted the option to have a slightly uplifting ending. Little blue children would of been nice, not just DEATH, DEATH with a side order of death.

[Getorex]

Urbonov wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

0_o

Link? Pics? I would very much like to see this tweet please.

Dream on.  The addition is exposition, NOT more gameplay.  No dialog.  Just vid. 

You will sit there and passively watch any autopilot dialog that might take place.  You will then see passive video of what is going on here and there.  You will see something akin to a powerpoint slide showing this or that with music in the background.  Yeehaw!

Your Shepard will still be dead no matter what (or at best toasted but alive on Earth while EVERYONE s/he gives a flying crap about is on Pleasure Planet getting it on).  Fun times.  Nice clarity.

[SuperHamzah]

Am I the only one who thinks any change is a privilege? Not a right?

Some are saying this is just to shut people up - well...duh?!?!

To put into perspective, imagine George Lucas re-made parts of the Phantom Menace after it was released, nope neither can I.

They made a mistake, they dealt with it head on and are at least trying to fix it. They had many options: Ignoring you all completely and milking the cash cow, upload a cheap CGI ending in a couple of weeks, or whatever.

As customers, yes we have a right to complain, but we don't have a right to the content. They own it. Now they can be like Lucas, and be d*cks about their ownership, or they can be as they are - better than most others.

[OfficerDonNZ]

To little to late. After I finish ME3 later today all three Mass Effect games (along with their guides) will be sold, not that I expect to get much for them. I've even unrestered my copies of ME2 and ME3

[SuperHamzah]

Smboedy elhp me i am gbein hled hstogea by ibowaer oh gdo i cnnato fele my lesg...:-(

[Getorex]

eoinnx03 wrote...

It would be funny if I wasn't such a fan of mass effect. They have made the situation far worse for themselves and it appears they still don't know that yet.
Oh well. I'm done now with Bioware, and I'd like to thank them for great gaming memories for that last decade or so.
I wanted the option to have a slightly uplifting ending. Little blue children would of been nice, not just DEATH, DEATH with a side order of death.

Death (blue), death (green), or MOSTLY dead (red) with a side order of genocide.  I think that is what you meant right?

[Reever]

Getorex wrote...

Urbonov wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

0_o

Link? Pics? I would very much like to see this tweet please.

Dream on.  The addition is exposition, NOT more gameplay.  No dialog.  Just vid. 

You will sit there and passively watch any autopilot dialog that might take place.  You will then see passive video of what is going on here and there.  You will see something akin to a powerpoint slide showing this or that with music in the background.  Yeehaw!

Your Shepard will still be dead no matter what (or at best toasted but alive on Earth while EVERYONE s/he gives a flying crap about is on Pleasure Planet getting it on).  Fun times.  Nice clarity.

Still better than what we have now. Don´t get me wrong, I know they could have done something more epic (and logical?) but at least they´ll try to make us understand what´s so great about these endings we already have. Maybe...

[Super.Sid]

Getorex wrote...

Urbonov wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

0_o

Link? Pics? I would very much like to see this tweet please.

Dream on.  The addition is exposition, NOT more gameplay.  No dialog.  Just vid. 

You will sit there and passively watch any autopilot dialog that might take place.  You will then see passive video of what is going on here and there.  You will see something akin to a powerpoint slide showing this or that with music in the background.  Yeehaw!

Your Shepard will still be dead no matter what (or at best toasted but alive on Earth while EVERYONE s/he gives a flying crap about is on Pleasure Planet getting it on).  Fun times.  Nice clarity.

There have been conflicting quotations from different people of the company so lets just wait until PAX to see what is the reality. I still think the DLC will integrate into the ending mission.They are just staying silent about it. They have also hinted that VAs are being recalled.Why I say that it will integrate is because after the end of the game you go back to the Cerberus base mission save.

Modifié par Super.Sid, 05 avril 2012 - 06:22 .

[Getorex]

SuperHamzah wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks any change is a privilege? Not a right?

Some are saying this is just to shut people up - well...duh?!?!

To put into perspective, imagine George Lucas re-made parts of the Phantom Menace after it was released, nope neither can I.

They made a mistake, they dealt with it head on and are at least trying to fix it. They had many options: Ignoring you all completely and milking the cash cow, upload a cheap CGI ending in a couple of weeks, or whatever.

As customers, yes we have a right to complain, but we don't have a right to the content. They own it. Now they can be like Lucas, and be d*cks about their ownership, or they can be as they are - better than most others.

They have a right to be dicks and morons and we have the absolute right to punish them for it.  It's all good.

[Martin3389]

Getorex: I still stand by my post. Maybe I'm assuming too much of Bioware, maybe I'm not. I simply wrote down my thoughts about the whole "ending business". What makes sense to me doesn't need to make sense to anybody else. I'll just put it this way, just because something was at the end doesn't mean that it was the real end. No sane developer would botch like 7 years of his handiwork by this. The whole part AFTER choosing one from three "endings" seemed forced and on-the-fly to me, because I think that they weren't able to do what they wanted to do because of the deadlines. That is reason enough for me. They just might do the DLC the way you described because it is expected by the audience. Maybe Bioware realized that the way they wanted to do it won't satisfy the masses. Or maybe they are just biding time to make sure to deliver their intended closure to this saga properly and that's why it's taking so long. Thanks for your reaction btw.

[MrNose]

SuperHamzah wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks any change is a privilege? Not a right?

I don't think that the "right/privilege" dichotomy works here.  Many feel that the general agreement they had with BioWare has been violated, and are angry abou tthat.

I personally just didn't like the ending, and a few tweaks will make the game a solid 8.5/10 for me, maybe even a 9/10.  Its already a 7-7.5 in my book.