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[daboy042188]

hey stan are we talking animal house style epilouges or full cinematics?

[Dakota Strider]

The artistic integrity argument was destroyed when they offered to sell DLC on the very day the game was released. If they had integrity, and the DLC was important for their art, it would have been included in the game, or allowed to be free.

[MadMatt910]

Can help but feel the missed the point. Hard.

Extending the endings will not charge the lore inconsistencies and its very likely that you will still get 3 largely identical endings. You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.

[yejo]

While I think the 3 godchild endings are indeed pretty ****ty.
I don't get the whole we where promised 16 different endings, since you kinda get those.
you just need to see the entire game as an ending to all your storylines.
i mean i'm currently on my 3rd playthrough and the whole krogan genophage thing came out 3 different ways.
the Rachni queen was different as well as the attack on the council.
so yeah you got your 16 somewhat endings.
or did you really think that it was possible to get all the outcomes of all those different quests, subcharacters and what not you did in the previous 2 games into an epiloge of roughly 15 minutes.
you'd be watching a movie of about an hour if they'd done that.
but i am kinda bummed that they don't really change the endings (or at least they're saying they won't) because i was hoping for a happy happy joy joy all the way to a you're all doomed cause the reapers win and everything in between kinda ending for all my playthroughs.

[PaulSX]

Getorex wrote...

Urbonov wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

According to Ms. Merizan on twitter, no one starves to death, Shep is reunited with crew, there are certain sacrifies, rebuilding the relays is completely possible depending on your ending and she says she fancies indoctrination theory on one of her playthroughs.
I think it all depends on EMS scores.

0_o

Link? Pics? I would very much like to see this tweet please.

Dream on.  The addition is exposition, NOT more gameplay.  No dialog.  Just vid. 

You will sit there and passively watch any autopilot dialog that might take place.  You will then see passive video of what is going on here and there.  You will see something akin to a powerpoint slide showing this or that with music in the background.  Yeehaw!

Your Shepard will still be dead no matter what (or at best toasted but alive on Earth while EVERYONE s/he gives a flying crap about is on Pleasure Planet getting it on).  Fun times.  Nice clarity.

And what is the problem with that. when you finish fallout new vegas and dragon age origins there are also only powerpoint slides showing you what happened to each faction and important characters. That's all Mass Effect 3 needed post ending sequences.

[Gurka84]

Ziroz wrote...

Gurka84 wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Fixed it for you!

=)

it will be intersing to see what they do  but personally i wanted more endings but i am happy that they are doning something at least i am  hoping it will be good but i dont whant to jinx it so i am note hoping fore more then that

[SalsaDMA]

Dr. Scarabus wrote...

There's a reasonable explanation for Bioware doubling down on the ending, and it has nothing to do with artistic integrity. Let's say hypothetically that a VERY expensive Mass Effect sequel is in the works. Now let's say this sequel requires that none or nearly none of the mass relays work at the beginning in order to gate content. Let's also say that this sequel requires all the ME races in close proximity to each other in order to justify players of different races starting in the same area. Can you smell what The Rock is cookin?

Nothing can be changed because EA's next cash cow depends on it.

EA's "next cashcow", as you put it, won't happen and will end up as a tax write-off unless they manage to actually salvage the mess they made with ME3.

[Martin3389]

Getorex: Well never, because there was no player outrage this big. Everybody is bound to make a serious mistake one day. But if Bioware care about its reputation, they simply must respond to this somehow. Whether they failed because of the deadline or overestimation doesn't matter. What matters is how they deal with it. I can hope that they'll learn from this and improve themselves in the future.

[RoninTX]

People please learn to read, thye are saying they are EXTENDING the BAD endings...not getting rid of the bad ending of give more diverse endings..

So in the end these are the endings we are stuck with, well time for me to pack all my Bioware stuff and send it their way.

[BP93]

I don't want a few extra cutscenes with no dialogue. Or am I not reading this all right?

How can they "explain" something when there's no talking?

[Urbonov]

BP93 wrote...

I don't want a few extra cutscenes with no dialogue. Or am I not reading this all right?

How can they "explain" something when there's no talking?

I don't think they actually said there isn't going to be any new talking. Based on Jennifer Hale's interview the other day, they do not have her doing any new femshep work, Yet. Seeing as they have slated this for a summer release, there is yet time. And that's even assuming it's not going to be Hacket, or the LI doing any sort of epilogue talking (very possible as in 2/3 endings Shep is so much space dust, and possiblly a reaper overmind...)

Modifié par Urbonov, 05 avril 2012 - 07:05 .

[silverspirit2001]

Oh well, bioware always has had a 20% rate on sucky endings. NWN and NWN2 anyone? Only the expansions cured those ills.

But then again, a lot of people buying NWN was for the multiplayer create your own dungeon. If bioware released those tools for Mass Effect, I bet half the complaints would disappear. Mainly, because the game for hardcore fans was about those abilities.

[rizuno]

Ok. Cooled off. Found this on Forbes.

http://www.forbes.co...ctory-for-fans/

@Corbin Allen on comments: "I’ve been actively pointing out on the RME3 Facebook; this is a won battle, but not a won war.

It’s easy to dismiss the first thing you’re offered as all you’re going to get. But what’s the real perspective here? I don’t see that I’m being handed the “Extended DLC” or nothing else. I see this as the first stage of a haggle.

They’ve offered us something while asserting it’s all they can do. Well, when I bought my car, the salesman asserted to me that the best he could do was $2000 more than I paid for the car in the end. I didn’t give up when I was handed the price I didn’t want, and I’m not going to give up on the RME movement just because the “first offer” by EA/BioWare is potentially a crap one.

Players should recall that last month, we were told they most certainly couldn’t do anything about the ending. Now they’re saying they can do something about the ending, but most certainly can’t really change it. They’re on the slippery slope of negotiation and trying to dress it up like a solid brick wall. The solution here is not to give up or call it won, but keep haggling and ignore that illusion of wall-ness."

I agree completely. I shall now slap the me of 2 or so hours ago. It's not over yet.

[sorentoft]

Well that sucks. Guess I am done with EA games for good then.

[Super.Sid]

Some news , interpret as you like

[Lobinic]

BIOWARE changes nothing and only gets more **** to end their ****.

[leondes1]

Bioware, you totally missed the point.

Thanks for nothing. My money will go else wear.

Another company gone to corporate greed.

[Urbonov]

rizuno wrote...

Ok. Cooled off. Found this on Forbes.

http://www.forbes.co...ctory-for-fans/

@Corbin Allen on comments: "I’ve been actively pointing out on the RME3 Facebook; this is a won battle, but not a won war.

It’s easy to dismiss the first thing you’re offered as all you’re going to get. But what’s the real perspective here? I don’t see that I’m being handed the “Extended DLC” or nothing else. I see this as the first stage of a haggle.

They’ve offered us something while asserting it’s all they can do. Well, when I bought my car, the salesman asserted to me that the best he could do was $2000 more than I paid for the car in the end. I didn’t give up when I was handed the price I didn’t want, and I’m not going to give up on the RME movement just because the “first offer” by EA/BioWare is potentially a crap one.

Players should recall that last month, we were told they most certainly couldn’t do anything about the ending. Now they’re saying they can do something about the ending, but most certainly can’t really change it. They’re on the slippery slope of negotiation and trying to dress it up like a solid brick wall. The solution here is not to give up or call it won, but keep haggling and ignore that illusion of wall-ness."

I agree completely. I shall now slap the me of 2 or so hours ago. It's not over yet.

This.

By ackowleding that there was a need for, at the very least, a clarification of the ending, we the unsatisfied fans have won a small battle. We can't fall on our swords now though, the next step is just as important as the first.

Possible plan to consider. http://social.biowar...ndex/11037693/1

Modifié par Urbonov, 05 avril 2012 - 07:15 .

[grimkillah]

I reserve any option of this DLC until its release, and I recommend everyone to do the same. This is not the victory, just a temporary ceasefire.

[RoninTX]

I wish I could go to PAX so much now just asking WHY they are extending a BAD ending instead of adding more ending options to it.

Thye should have made an ending like ME2

[SalsaDMA]

grimkillah wrote...

I reserve any option of this DLC until its release, and I recommend everyone to do the same. This is not the victory, just a temporary ceasefire.

temporary ceasefire?

More like.... Bioware took a bullet to the knee and keep trying to limp through it...

[Fraq Hound]

Giving us closure to a disappointing ending. Well at least they listened to half of what the upset fans were saying. I have a feeling this will make me feel a little better about how my favorite Sci-fi trilogy came to a close.

Also have a feeling it won't change my stance on future Bioware products. Somewhere between Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 they lost the ability write and execute a compelling ending to their games.

They aren't getting a dime from me until they remember how.

[grimkillah]

April 12, 2014, is that when ME4 comes out BioWare?

[Urbonov]

SalsaDMA wrote...

temporary ceasefire?

More like.... Bioware took a bullet to the knee and keep trying to limp through it...

Must...resist.....sykrim....knee....joke...

[Sero303]

Dakota Strider wrote...

The artistic integrity argument was destroyed when they offered to sell DLC on the very day the game was released. If they had integrity, and the DLC was important for their art, it would have been included in the game, or allowed to be free.

I have to agree,...if they were truly concerned about their "artistic integrity" they shouldn't have released a Day 1 DLC ( not that I care ) I just find it hypocritical of them