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[vania z]

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

[thebigbad1013]

I hope it's good, I really do. I truly hope that this will give a satisfying ending to the trilogy and that it will fill the plotholes and explain all the stuff that doesn't make any sense and contradicts the lore. But can that really happen when starchild and space magic remains? I doubt it, but I'm hoping.

[Super.Sid]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

How can I trust what you say ?

[Cloudwulf]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

I dont care if i can trust what he says. I want to believe him. It would be also the first time of my life to Side with EA against Bioware! Please give me my Happy End!

[Sir Fluffykins]

Reva-C wrote...

Wynteryth wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Choice is the heart of this game.

They didn't give me the choice when they retconned my character out of existence, they didn't give me a choice when they butchered everything I've done previously, they didn't give a choice to Thane or Jacob romancers when they threw them out as irrelevent, they didn't give a choice to Cerberus supporters, they didn't give a choice to a lot of people.

The ending is the only one which inconveniences you, thus it bothers you and you stomp your feet on the ground and cry out, demanding satisfaction. They're offering closure, something which many people clamoured for, though you'll keep stomping your feet because you don't get a happily ever after.

I'm sorry if I find that outrageous.

They didn't throw Thane and Jacob out as irrelevant. They had Jacob find a different romance while you were indisposed.. That happens in real life.. 

They gave a lot more choices to people than you are claiming.  The fact is that they gave you ONE choice for an ending.  Suicide.  Period.  No Paragon check. No Renegade Check.  No matter what you chose, you're dead.  Yeah.. great choice.  OH, and it basically made all the other choices irrelevant.  More so than anything else in the series.  

Well put....I agree with that. I loved the game up until then. Okay, there were a few bits that were off and I wasn't sure about, but hey isn't that so with every game, book, film, show? But they didn't ruin the game...I just shrugged and moved on to the next awesome part of it. It's just that final ending and the non choice offered in the bland last ten minutes.

If I've spent 40 hours gathering every last war asset I can find....I expect that to have some impact on the ending, like it did in ME2, to scrape through it barely in one piece and find a HUMAN way to kick the reapers into touch .......if I've only spent 10 hours on the game and not bothered collecting them, I equally expect to be cremated and buried as a failure that let Earth down and for Anderson to get all the praise LOL

How we all thought that, how we all thought that. Then you're left wondering what was the Citadel Defence Force for, what was the point of saving the Rachni, besides a pointless 100 points what was the fleet for, what was the point of putting Jack and the students on defence, what was anything for 

I could have lived with an simple Epilogue giving a run down on what you've done through text stories that changed based on what you did.

People say what the endings imply is hugely different, but for me I felt guttered by the ending I got, then I felt mad when I found the other endings were near identical. Like a fool I started looking for the "real, hidden" ending and couldn't find it.

^@ Russian post: I'll wait and see...THOUGH I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THIS FREE DLC WILL HAVE MORE HYPE THEN MOST NEW GAMES THIS YEAR 

Modifié par Sir Fluffykins, 07 avril 2012 - 10:57 .

[Grey21]

Cloudwulf wrote...

I dont care if i can trust what he says. I want to believe him. It would be also the first time of my life to Side with EA against Bioware! Please give me my Happy End!

Haha, indeed. EA might be a corrupt and evil company, but they speak the language of money. They care when I say 'I will never buy another Bioware product again if they don't change the ending!'. They don't care about artistic integrity as long as I keep on buying.

And I'm honest about this. I will NOT buy another Bioware product ever again if they don't change the ending. Not just add cutscenes (extended crap is still crap). The disappointment I had to endure when seeing this horrible ending was much worse than the enjoyment ME1 gave me. ME1's enjoyment partially come from the promise of one day experiencing consequences to the hard choices we had to make. ME3's ending failed to deliver, effectively making the whole trilogy bad with its illogical and unsatisfying ending.

When a game like Halo 3 does this than it isn't as bad. It is a game primarily about shooting, but a storydriven game needs a better ending. Right now the ending is of the same level as Sucker Punch and The Matrix Revolution. Yet Bioware believes they created their own Fight Club as they arrogantly said they had to protect their artistic integrity. Crap isn't art, and you've lost your integrity long ago Bioware!

[Legion_IV]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

This sounds too good to be true, but god do I hope it is!

[Cloudwulf]

I didn´t see Sucker Punch, but hell i also didn´t like the ending of Matrix 3, but still the ending of Matrix 3 felt more right then the ending of ME 3. In another Forum one guy said, that shepard was brave and trying to find a way like Captain Kirk and turned in the last 10 Minutes to Neo, while saying:
"I have to Sacrifice myself in one of your machines Reaper-God? Ok if thats my Destiny."

Modifié par Cloudwulf, 07 avril 2012 - 11:03 .

[CaribbeanCLANK]

In my opinion, this "Extended Cut" is just another slap in the face from Bioware.

[Grey21]

Cloudwulf wrote...

I didn´t see Sucker Punch, but hell i also didn´t like the ending of Matrix 3, but still the ending of Matrix 3 felt more right then the ending of ME 3. In another Forum one guy said, that shepard was brave and trying to find a way like Captain Kirk and turned in the last 10 Minutes to Neo, while saying:
"I have to Sacrifice myself in one of your machines Reaper-God? Ok if thats my Destiny."

What I mean is that in both Sucker Punch and The Matrix 3 the creators want a 'smart' ending but they don't have any ideas. So they just make things extra confusing and illogical but in a 'cool looking way'.

Their hope is that some viewers will think: 'I don't get it, but I'll act as if I understand it!'. That way oher viewers will think: 'this doesn't make any sense, but some people seem to get it so I'll just shut up'.

That way they hope to get the same kind of reputation as movies that actually have a smart plot such as Fight Club and even the original Matrix.

WIth that in mind it makes absolute sense that they'll say something douchy like: 'but.. but.. it is out artistic integrity!!!''

What they mean is: 'You just don't get it, you're too stupid. But we're so smart, we'll make additional cutscenes so even stupid people can understand our fantastic ending!'

I think driving around in their EA sportcars has made the good doctors rather arrogant.

[Zerox Z21]

Grey21 wrote...

Cloudwulf wrote...

I dont care if i can trust what he says. I want to believe him. It would be also the first time of my life to Side with EA against Bioware! Please give me my Happy End!

Haha, indeed. EA might be a corrupt and evil company, but they speak the language of money. They care when I say 'I will never buy another Bioware product again if they don't change the ending!'. They don't care about artistic integrity as long as I keep on buying.

And I'm honest about this. I will NOT buy another Bioware product ever again if they don't change the ending. Not just add cutscenes (extended crap is still crap). The disappointment I had to endure when seeing this horrible ending was much worse than the enjoyment ME1 gave me. ME1's enjoyment partially come from the promise of one day experiencing consequences to the hard choices we had to make. ME3's ending failed to deliver, effectively making the whole trilogy bad with its illogical and unsatisfying ending.

When a game like Halo 3 does this than it isn't as bad. It is a game primarily about shooting, but a storydriven game needs a better ending. Right now the ending is of the same level as Sucker Punch and The Matrix Revolution. Yet Bioware believes they created their own Fight Club as they arrogantly said they had to protect their artistic integrity. Crap isn't art, and you've lost your integrity long ago Bioware!

Agreed, I might start to hate EA less even if this is true.

The ideas represented in that rumour of a post are really what we'd want to be honest. Sounds great.
, if vague.

I cared about Halo 3's story, nothing wrong with ending really. Suited it, and there's Halo 4 coming now. But yeah, Mass Effect is rooted in RPG aspects and it should stay that way. That's what differentriates it and makes it's own sect of fans enjoy it.

[Cloudwulf]

Grey21 wrote...

Cloudwulf wrote...

I didn´t see Sucker Punch, but hell i also didn´t like the ending of Matrix 3, but still the ending of Matrix 3 felt more right then the ending of ME 3. In another Forum one guy said, that shepard was brave and trying to find a way like Captain Kirk and turned in the last 10 Minutes to Neo, while saying:
"I have to Sacrifice myself in one of your machines Reaper-God? Ok if thats my Destiny."

What I mean is that in both Sucker Punch and The Matrix 3 the creators want a 'smart' ending but they don't have any ideas. So they just make things extra confusing and illogical but in a 'cool looking way'.

Their hope is that some viewers will think: 'I don't get it, but I'll act as if I understand it!'. That way oher viewers will think: 'this doesn't make any sense, but some people seem to get it so I'll just shut up'.

That way they hope to get the same kind of reputation as movies that actually have a smart plot such as Fight Club and even the original Matrix.

WIth that in mind it makes absolute sense that they'll say something douchy like: 'but.. but.. it is out artistic integrity!!!''

What they mean is: 'You just don't get it, you're too stupid. But we're so smart, we'll make additional cutscenes so even stupid people can understand our fantastic ending!'

I think driving around in their EA sportcars has made the good doctors rather arrogant.

Is it arrogance or despair, or just blindness?  It is hard to say from my point of view. I think sometimes: Hell, they have to know what the gamers what. But after DA2 and ME3 Ending i am not so sure anymore. Maybe they know what we want (For example JAde empire hat a nice even romantic happy end, with not so many questions left) but  you are right, they wanted to look very smart by giving us this Deus Ex ending and tried to look extra cool by adding the Reaper-God, that philosphical Bull...t why the reapers want to destroy the organics.

I am honestly a simple guy. If the Reapers are there like an earthquake, i dont ask why. I thought two games long. The Reapers are evil and just want to destroy the organics because they are afraid of them being terminated by the organics in the future. I did not need a cool Explaining bla blub. I want my happy end, destroy the reapers, house with tali, shepard being happy and rewarded for his hard work. Thats the plain happy end, that is not the actual Hollywood-Trend, but that is all i want and need.

They don´t give it to me and tell me i am stupid because i don´t understand how great this pseudo-philosophcal-rushed Ending is! Sounds like the Dialogues, Shepard had with the Reapers:
"You just are too small too understand. You can not stop us."
"I will stop you (or at least stop my Bank-Account sending you money for DLC)."
"You just don´t understand."

And now they say, that they have listened to our complaints, but don´t give any new ending? Thats illogical twisted in itself. How can you pretend to listen to me, and DON´T create a new ending? I am not the only one who wants shepard sitting at the beach with a Tequila Sunrise in his Hand...Am I?

[Grade_Ronso]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

I want to believe this is true.

If it is true then my fate on EA as rise a little, specially after the debacle of Command and Conquer 4.

[Grey21]

Cloudwulf wrote...

I am not the only one who wants shepard sitting at the beach with a Tequila Sunrise in his Hand...Am I?

No, I expected there to be at least one ending that would be incredibly hard to obtain where it does end with  Shepard and Garrus sitting on a beach in Brazil (with a crashed Reaper sticking out of the water in the distance).

However I was fully prepared to die, I was expecting to have dire consequences to my choices. I was tottally ready to have the rachni queen betray me and kill me. I would have been okay with that, it makes sense. I made the choice to let her live, I should then live (or die) with the consequences.

But I wasn't ready for a trainwreck of illogical events all hapening after each other in the ending. The whole conversation with the god-child had me constantly whisper 'w..t..f..'. Than the choices had me say out loud 'FU'. Than we get the ending cutscenes that just make me go speechless. With each new frame I'm thinking: ''why? how?'' During the credits I processed everything that happened and come to the conclusion it just makes no sense and I feel more pissed off than I've ever been about entertainment. 150+ hours on my first character alone, for nothing...

Than fans smarter than me piece together the Indoctrination theory. It is perfect, it explains it all and it allows Bioware to reset the ending without losing their 'artistic integrity'. But they are too arrogant to accept this peace-offer from their fans. I just have no choice but to stup buying their crap. Unless they are able to change the ending and make it less crappy. However extended crap is still crap, and they just aren't getting it.

[Fidget6]

By the Summer? That's not enough time to create anything too big, I doubt they'll even have any additional voiced dialogue. Hopefully they'll show more of what happens to your crew after they land on the planet though, and give us some damn epilogue screens like Dragon Age did....

[Cloudwulf]

Grey21 wrote...

Cloudwulf wrote...

I am not the only one who wants shepard sitting at the beach with a Tequila Sunrise in his Hand...Am I?

No, I expected there to be at least one ending that would be incredibly hard to obtain where it does end with  Shepard and Garrus sitting on a beach in Brazil (with a crashed Reaper sticking out of the water in the distance).

However I was fully prepared to die, I was expecting to have dire consequences to my choices. I was tottally ready to have the rachni queen betray me and kill me. I would have been okay with that, it makes sense. I made the choice to let her live, I should then live (or die) with the consequences.

But I wasn't ready for a trainwreck of illogical events all hapening after each other in the ending. The whole conversation with the god-child had me constantly whisper 'w..t..f..'. Than the choices had me say out loud 'FU'. Than we get the ending cutscenes that just make me go speechless. With each new frame I'm thinking: ''why? how?'' During the credits I processed everything that happened and come to the conclusion it just makes no sense and I feel more pissed off than I've ever been about entertainment. 150+ hours on my first character alone, for nothing...

Than fans smarter than me piece together the Indoctrination theory. It is perfect, it explains it all and it allows Bioware to reset the ending without losing their 'artistic integrity'. But they are too arrogant to accept this peace-offer from their fans. I just have no choice but to stup buying their crap. Unless they are able to change the ending and make it less crappy. However extended crap is still crap, and they just aren't getting it.

you speak it out exactly like i feel it. I was playing ME1 and had the idea, that in the end, all my choices would be added together, and that the number that would come out of this would give me a good or a bad ending, depending on my actions. So i thought things like "Shall i let the Rachni Queen life? Maybe she helps me in the end with a big rachni army against the reapers, or she will start just a war against the "normal" species or even worse help the reaper. I sat there five minutes before the screen with the Kill her, let her free options and tried to decide what was best"

And all this was absolutely good for nothing! Even if you kill her, there will be a Fake Queen in Part 3!

I also was amazed by the Indoctrination theory and thought:"If this is really true, then I HAVE EVEN TO APOLOGIZE TO BW for beeing mad at them in the first place." If they could have went with the IT, this would have been true Art in my eyes. A daring Expiriment unknown to Gaming-History, but it is not going to happen.

you know Grey21 i never posted anything in this Forum until today. Even after the Ending that left me speechless like you, i decided to never play this game through again. Then after i learnde about the IT i started playing again, choosing the "Destroy Reaper" Option.
Why do i post now, for the First time? Because now, after the Announcment of the Directors Cut DLC i really feel hopeless. I feel assured that this Bull*** of an ending is what we really get! Why did i pay 70 Euros for this? WHY?
At the Moment i feel again enraged like after i played through the first time! I will not Play ME3 anymore and uninstall it along with Origins from EA, if we don´t get a new ending!

Bah or maybe i start playing again Alpha Protocol, there i had at least a good ending Scene, driving on a Yacht with my LI into my new Life. that was cool enough for me...

[General User]

The Phantom Menace: Extended Cut
Now with more Jar Jar!

[Cribbian]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

I really wish that this was true but its hard to be optimistic about this mess anymore:unsure:

[tsk16]

Is anyone worried that this "cut content" might be some of the unused cinematics in the game files that were uploaded to youtube?

[KrazyKiko]

IF - that is all true...I'd gain a great more respect for EA...although their motives may be related more to $$$ than the story itself.

[Tavalero]

In the Extended Cut answers the question of who created the Reaper? And why?

If not, then there is an Extended Cut of the Extended Cut?

[MaximizedAction]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

This contradicts the statement about no new endings on Bioware's blog.

[rmpumper]

MaximizedAction wrote...

This contradicts the statement about no new endings on Bioware's blog.

Yes, but we all know very well that Bioware tend to lie most of the time.

[Emzamination]

GuyIncognito wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
You speak as if bioware hid that fact.Da2 was advertised as having a "shell" ending with you destined to be the champion from the begining.The whole game is built around you telling bioware how the champion came to claim his/her title and what decisions they made along the way.

Because it is totally illogical that the survivors of the normandy would pass down stories of their leader and friend who saved the entire galaxy from annihilation, yes? Further more its impossible for him to have given that kid the exact version of events since some things only shepard was witness to.It is far more likely he was retelling events that have been saturated through time.

No doubts about Bioware making this method intentional in DA2.

In regards to your statement about Shell Endings, this is my point exactly. You knew the ending of the story before you knew the beginning because this was explicited stated by both Cassandra and Varric. Cassandra demanded the story from Varric and the first story is in line with a legendary exaggerated style that is told across Taverns from Thedas to Orlais. Cassandra demanded to know the real story and Varric was the one that told her (and this is even assuming that you never took Varric on any of the quests as well).

Justice was supposedly slain in all DA:A epilogues, only to re-appear as a plot driver in DA2 by being merged with Anders and instigating the whole Mage / Templar War and sets the stage for DA3. The Anderson / Udina Councilor reference has already been made which sort of invalidates the choice for the Player's Story vs. what Bioware wants the story to be. Both examples of disconnects between what you chose and how the story turned out.

No, it's not illogical to assume that if Indoctrination Theory is disproven by the Extended Cut we are still left with the gaping plotholes which cannot be explained. Historical recording of what exactly happened to persist after 10,000 years there is going to being transformations in the story even if the survivors passed down stories of their leader and friend who held the line against the galaxy's annihilation. I agree its most likely that if the Narrator is telling the kid the story, he's telling events which have been transformed over time. Sounds more like a legend to me which is in line with how The Champion's story was initially told by Varric. This is where the disconnect is, because the way the narrative is executed in ME1, ME2, and ME3 up the post credits you've always assumed that you are Shepard.

Example: Romance of the Three Kingdoms is an old story which was compiled and translated from oral Chinese story tellers, no one really knows what exactly happened, we just get the stories of what's passed down through time. Some of the characters are depicted as larger then life heroes and some as larger then life villains. But what is interpreted as quasi established history vs. legend hasn't stopped Koei from releasing 7+ versions of Dynasty Warriors and re-telling the story over and over slightly differently.

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As I said in my OP, this is just my point of view and sure... it's probably easily proven irrelevant. What I'm asking is... can it be said with 100% certainty that with how the ending turned out & the post credits narrative implications that you are The Shepard as much as you are The Warden? It's a casualty of the style of storytelling that BW has decided to use. Is it bad? No, it's just not what the players were expecting. The player wants it to be the Player's story and not "The Shepard's" Story.

Hell... Mel Brooks made fun of Moses going up to the mountain in History of the World Part 1, returning with 15 Commandments, accidentally dropping 1 of the tablets which left us with 10 Commandments. Who is to say we aren't violating 5 of the Commandments without knowing it? lol.

Thats wrong, spirits can't be slain even when their mortal host dies.

In regards to the anderson/udina thing, it is completely logical and natural that the second in command would take control once the presiding member steped down.The vs would most likely take control of the normandy should something happen to shepard seeing as they are the "xo".

As for your position on the narrative, it is never going to be your story no matter what game you play.We can make decisions in WoW/FF and ToR but it is blizzard,square and bioware who created those universes and everything in it.They write every line of dialogue and every decision you make.You can't just step into somebody elses realm and proclaim yourself god.If you want that much freedom then create your own universe and games.

[Dakota Strider]

vania z wrote...

Guys, I might have some good news.
There is post in some russian forum dated back march 25th with inside info, since some parts turned out to be true, it might be that all this info is more or less accurate, here is the translation:
There is fighting between Bioware and EA management. EA is more than unhappy with death of series and the fact, that fans are blaming it on them(bioware was given all the freedom and EA was not checking on them, they trusted BW's reputation). BW have overestimated their own strength and were not able to create the game properly. [not relevant part].
EA wanted to take senior writer out, but Dr. Muzyka defended him personally, since they were old friends.
BW was working on small free patch to explain the ending and were planning to release it before april 10, but EA forced them to make complete rewrite of the ending. They started to work on it on march 20 and it will be ready by ~july. Will be two main endings - everything is ending great or everything is ending badly.
Epilogue depends on your actions, and here it is the same - either they lived happyly ever after, became rich and so on or.. Without middle tones.

Would be great to believe, but without documented sources....sorry if I am skeptical.  Russian forums have more access to information about American/Canadian companies than we do here in North America?  I suppose anything is possible, but this is just as likely to be a pro-ender spin to help silence those of us that have been speaking out (no offense vania z, just saying.)

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 07 avril 2012 - 01:42 .