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[Drake_Hound]

Sidac wrote...

f1r3storm wrote...

new endings?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.[/list]What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

awesome! nice to see a company stick to their guns. I actually liked the endings.

Good then you don´t need to download the DLC .
You are a satisfied customer . go play SWTOR cause I am not logging in .
You can replace people for them in another bioware game ..

[Drake_Hound]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

xxskyshadowxx wrote...
I like how they replaced the word "plagarism" with the phrase "artistic vision" and people are just eating it up. It's both sad and fascinating at the same time.

I like how they aren't caving in to the unrealistic demands of some people. Who are determined to attack and tear at and devour BW until they get their way.

Oh if you are happy with what you have , good for you atleast those people care enough .
We can also say F it , lets forget about it , pretend the nose is bleeding .
And next Bioware is like Westwood ... only the name and just grind out same worthless quality cause fan didn´t care.

So if you are happy buy SWTOR and play it , put your money where your mouth is .
Replace those who don´t want to play it anymore .

[Sidac]

Drake_Hound wrote...


Good then you don´t need to download the DLC .
You are a satisfied customer 

I can do some critical thinking so, i got the endings. All the "extended cut" is doing is saying "this is what happens after the events of your choice". So it will be nice to see how they did that as well. Plus its free. why miss that?

[Drake_Hound]

Critical thinking LMAO , on a linear endings .
Yeah right , so basically you are already happy with the ending you are not the target they seek to appease .

So basically what a waste of money this extended ending .
Woot failure on a big scale coming up .

[Drake_Hound]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

Oh if you are happy with what you have , good for you atleast those people care enough .
We can also say F it , lets forget about it , pretend the nose is bleeding .
And next Bioware is like Westwood ... only the name and just grind out same worthless quality cause fan didn´t care.

So if you are happy buy SWTOR and play it , put your money where your mouth is .
Replace those who don´t want to play it anymore .

What are you talking about? No one mentioned anything other than Mass Effect but you. Why? What relevance does it have?

I'm not talking about people who dislike it. I'm talking about people who are determined to pull BW down if they don't get what THEY want.

And that is what this ending did to me ; am a huge bioware fan .
I can overlook flaws in SWTOR , but guess what ME3 endings just killed everything I could stand in SWTOR .

And they wondered why people don´t log in anymore , really huge bioware fans .

[Drake_Hound]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

And that is what this ending did to me ; am a huge bioware fan .
I can overlook flaws in SWTOR , but guess what ME3 endings just killed everything I could stand in SWTOR .

And they wondered why people don´t log in anymore , really huge bioware fans .

What did it do to you? make you determined to pull them down no matter what? If that's the case, I don't really have any sympathy for you; that's wrong, regardless of how you feel they betrayed your trust.

LOL i betrayed my trust ?
I feel betrayed at such crappy directors cut ending to sell DLC .
I feel betrayed for day 1 DLC content , day 1 ... you know game development material that should be free.
Cause it was made at the same time as the game .
I feel betrayed for playing a wonderfull 99% game that last 1% made me feel like it was meaningless.

Wait you don´t feel betrayed ? hmm wierd , very strange .

[Grey21]

Sidac wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...


Good then you don´t need to download the DLC .
You are a satisfied customer 

I can do some critical thinking so, i got the endings. All the "extended cut" is doing is saying "this is what happens after the events of your choice". So it will be nice to see how they did that as well. Plus its free. why miss that?

You got the endings? You're the first person to say that. Everyone up until now has agreed that they are illogical. Hell, a large group of fans made a case study out of it. It notes that although the Mass Effect universe has had previous inconsistencies, nothing comes close to how illogical the ending is.

So please explain the endings to me, it wont take long. All three are basically the same anyway, so just explain one of them.

[Cloudwulf]

Like Grey 21 said. Pleas explain The one Ending to us. Enlighten us! So we can go home, becuase i am really tired bye this Battle David against Goliath. I don´t know if we Fans can win who want this new ending, but one thing is for sure. Even if i silence, that doesn´t mean i am happy again with Bioware. They can sell their "awesome" Games to other people. I played today something good from Bethesda, and bought some older stuff for not much money from CD Projekt...you know what i mean.

Fact is, i am already starting to look for alternatives. There is life outside there asside from BW. Even if the other games are not that cineastic like Mass Effect or KOTOR, i can endure it, if they don´t treat their Fans like sh*t and lie to them like BW did with Mass Effect. I really wish i never had played KOTOR, because this game made me instantly a BW Fanboy. Playing a Jedi, Romancing Bastilla, and then this wonderuful Happy End with me and her getting our Medal Ceremony...Ah i miss those times, even if my Jedi was not voiced like Shepard...

But i am tired of beeing attacked byy Bioware, even if its indirect, by their hired guns in the Gaming-Journalist-Media as "whiny" Fans that "should be ashamed" of himself (thats what i read today! Unbelievable) Time to yell at another Gaming Company "Shut Up and take my Money!" I heard CD Project newest Project should be good. At least it was recommended to me here in the BW Forum by another User, who himself also hates BW now. So maybe it is really good.

Modifié par Cloudwulf, 09 avril 2012 - 05:52 .

[illutian]

Sorry, Bioware, but it's summer...I don't feel like having the wool pulled over my eyes.

Until I can get the "good ending" that I earned, ME3's endings will remain crap...no matter how much paint you put on it

From the Poll Post I made:

I earned* a good ending**.

*ME1: Council Saved; ME2: Everyone survived the Suicide Mission; ME3: Over 6000 Military Strength, 100% Galactic Readiness, Geth & Quarrians at peace

**Good Ending: Shep lives, EDI & Geth lives, Relays still exist, and Reapers destroyed

[Grissmin]

Annaka wrote...

No, I don't think they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. This can be fixed if they just get over that "artistic integrity" bs. What people seem to call for is pretty much:

-Remove the star child (one thing most of BSN seem to agree on)
-Replace the "we have to kill organics or they'll die" with an idea that suits the plot and makes sense
-Fill in the plot holes
-Add a happy ending as one possible outcome among several and make our choices matter in the endings
-Add character-specific epilogue

This! ^

[BronD69]

ME3 great game for shooter based fans and casual gamers alike with no real emotion invested.
I can fully understand their opinions on the ending being O.K.

ME3 for those whom played the trilogy with many hours of emotion invested with choices made. Its an insult to our very being. The last 10mins or so of the trilogy is an insult to integrity on b/w part if left as... period!!

Modifié par BronD69, 09 avril 2012 - 07:16 .

[Foxbat Killer]

I don't have a problem with the three choices or the star child. I consider the star child to be a physical representation of the citadel itself. It's not space magic, its akin to Shepard entering the geth consensus and visualizing himself, Legion, and the Geth/Quarian history. The star child is Shepard's own interpretation.

The three choices are also not a problem for me in theory. The problem for me is after the choice is made. We perceive the 3 choices as being the same because we never get to see the effects of those choices. So if the extended cut drastically changes the outcome of the 3 choices to reflect our previous choices, then clearly the 3 choices aren't the same and you will have your 16 different endings.

Obviously they do need to clear up some of the potential plot holes. But I do not view the star child and the crucible as any more "space magic" than the basic premise of biotic powers.

[jerms510]

Drake_Hound wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

And that is what this ending did to me ; am a huge bioware fan .
I can overlook flaws in SWTOR , but guess what ME3 endings just killed everything I could stand in SWTOR .

And they wondered why people don´t log in anymore , really huge bioware fans .

What did it do to you? make you determined to pull them down no matter what? If that's the case, I don't really have any sympathy for you; that's wrong, regardless of how you feel they betrayed your trust.

LOL i betrayed my trust ?
I feel betrayed at such crappy directors cut ending to sell DLC .
I feel betrayed for day 1 DLC content , day 1 ... you know game development material that should be free.
Cause it was made at the same time as the game .
I feel betrayed for playing a wonderfull 99% game that last 1% made me feel like it was meaningless.

Wait you don´t feel betrayed ? hmm wierd , very strange .

then go away. if Bioware has hurt you so much, then gtfo their boards. put your money (time) where your mouth is, and never come back.

oh, you're just whining for the sake of whining? Thought so.

[GuyIncognito]

FAButzke wrote...
I agree with everything except when the "Mass Effect rant" starts:
Mass Effect creates an illusion of choice but, believe me, you have NO CHOICE in what ending you get. Not even in ME1.

Let's recap:

ME1: Save or Kill the council? = Pointless
ME1: Udina or Anderson? = Pointless
All of that leads to:
ME1: One Ending

ME2: Save or Destroy the Base? = Pointess (We do get two different color endings though (Just like ME3))
ME2: Crew is alive or dead? = Pointless (everyone that's killed is replaced by a "copy" in ME3)
All of that leads to:
ME2: Two Endings (2 different colors which counts as one and 1 where your character dies (if you screw things up))

ME3: No need for clarifications here... 3 different colors endings (which count as one) and one "secret".

So... "linearity" is not a thing exclusive to ME3.

You guys have been "lied to" since day one, back in 2007. Stop raging about a fricking game already.

Oh... And those who couldn't cope with reality, came up with the lame "Indocrination Theory". Wake up people. You are the indocrinated ones. Reality is right here. =P

You're misquoting me a bit. I think you got a bit of a post that I was responding to.

During the time period after ME1 & ME2's release and players finished, the player felt that they accomplished something unique because it was their choice to mold the story how they wanted it to be and project themselves as Shepard being their digital avatar.

My contention with ME1's and ME2's ending and feelings that were achieve at the end of those games for some players were not invalidated until you reached ME3 where you realize that you were never in control of the story all along (a form of what you say is illusion of choice) and its this disconnect between a player's Shepard avatar when in reality it's a Shepard Legend which has got so many people in an uproar (The Stargazer = unreliable narrator).

I myself did not pick up on this until the post credit sequence, but that doesn't make me mad about the whole issue. It's just realizing how the narrative was executed that caused a shattering of player perception that "Shepard's story" isn't "their Shepard's story"

Modifié par GuyIncognito, 09 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[Ingulfthemad]

Hmmm .. dont think they should bother.. the ending was a balls up on Biowares front, but us little fishs will not change a thing nor will the extended cut..endings are the same.. their just going to try to explain the whole mess, but the mess is unexplainable.. to me I think the just said "lets get this over with, as they approached the end of making it..so we can move onto something new, gamers will not notice" they forgot that we are human and not just wallets or purses.

I will take a look when it comes out.. only because I am human and have curiousity,, but the game for me is ruined( getting to the end was fun though, atleast I can say that)... like i said in previous post.. did not want bunnies and Unicorns..just survival

Modifié par Ingulfthemad, 09 avril 2012 - 08:55 .

[Arakim]

I can't see how longer endings could make them better.

You're just taking longer to show me that my choices didn't matter.

The writers talk of artistic vision, but don't seem to realize that when you invited us to make choices, real choices, back in ME1, it became our game, OUR vision, not just yours.

Keep your color endings, just let us work toward the ending we want.

[Drake_Hound]

People telling me to GFO and whiney , congrats is that the next generation of BSN hope you do have the money .

yes am using my money to fund freaking games I like on kickstarter, instead of pouring it into DLC.

[GuyIncognito]

Drake_Hound wrote...
-snip-
yes am using my money to fund freaking games I like on kickstarter, instead of pouring it into DLC.

All eyes on Brian Fargo.

[illutian]

Arakim wrote...

I can't see how longer endings could make them better.

You're just taking longer to show me that my choices didn't matter.

The writers talk of artistic vision, but don't seem to realize that when you invited us to make choices, real choices, back in ME1, it became our game, OUR vision, not just yours.

Keep your color endings, just let us work toward the ending we want.

Actually, they keep saying "artistic vision" because to redo the ending and add more would require getting the VAs back, getting the design team back, getting the story boarders back, and switching dumping more money into a post-released game...WITH NO MONEY RETURNS.

So, they scapegoat out by saying it was Artistic [insert something].

Personally, I would highly suggest people just not buy EA games from now on. Doesn't matter if they completely overhaul ME3's ending and make a fabulous DA3. That would send a message to all companies; reminding them that it's the customer who owns them, not the other way around.

[Drake_Hound]

No money return is a lie !
cause ME2 earned more money from me from DLC , still have bioware social points purchased unused , cause that is how much I loved the company .

let see swtor still have unused time cards , money from loyal fans who are happy doesn't count ?
hope those people who are satisfied with the ending , can match those kind of devotion.

[MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES]

GuyIncognito wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...
-snip-
yes am using my money to fund freaking games I like on kickstarter, instead of pouring it into DLC.

All eyes on Brian Fargo.

+1



TELL ME YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY THAT, BSN.

[PaxtonFetel]

I've noticed a lot of anger in yourself to bioware. But these guys did an amazing ME1 and a very good ME2 (especially the combat part). They have done enormous work in ME3 and it can be seen, until the last 15 minutes I gave the game a 10 out of 10. So let small, but there is hope that in the summer with the release of the DLC all history with a finale will be forgotten like a bad dream.