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[jumpingkaede]

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

I PAID for this when I bought ME3.  

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I'm not going to complain, I think I know what they're going for, but honestly, they should have known better in the first place. "Criticaly Acclaimed" or not, a lot of people might not bother after few months from launch.

On the other side - I'm sure they are aware of it, so it does seam they're doing it with those few individuals who will bother in mind.

I'm mostly sad but close to the acceptance stage.  I'll try to reserve judgment until they release the DLC... whenever they do, but right now?

Bioware butchered one of the best IPs and gaming universes ever... because they thought it would be artistic.  That hurts.

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 05 avril 2012 - 08:11 .

[terdferguson123]

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

[pablosplinter]

Better than nothing(just)

I am afraid that it just means that Bioware were not as good as I thought they were. I doubt I will buy another BW game tbh ......and I never thought I would be saying that!

[Doc Trisera]

They seem to miss our point while clarity and closure ARE good we also wanted to get rid of Casper the unfriendly ghost who decides the fate of the galaxy in three equally stupid endings (Or rather ending)  with no chance to argue our own case back, They harm the ending more than anything else here.

And for the record Bioware after your day 1 DLC you lost the ability to hide behind your "Artistic Integrity".

Modifié par Doc Trisera, 05 avril 2012 - 08:11 .

[Tocquevillain]

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

[phagus]

terdferguson123 wrote...

phagus wrote...

Wow an extended blue, green or red ending, but more personalised, wow just wow !, (face palm, followed by Doh). My initial reaction of course. I might be wrong but EA/BW still seem to think their original artistic ending was great (all those 75 perfect scores and critical acclaim bs has gone to their heads). I'll reserve judgement till i've seen it, but If they can cutscene the ending so all the plotholes and godchild's err.. logic makes sense I'll be stunned. Until then well done EA/BW for at least making it free.

You will reserve judgement till you have seen it... Except that you already judged it before you saw it. Epic.

Well spotted! I think I'm still suffering from godchilds logic loop!

[Myrmedus]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Complaining that the content will not ultimately ease our discontent with the ending.

But it's free, it doesn't cost you ANYTHING. Let me spell this out... you. are. not. losing. anything. by. playing. this. dlc. And, for that matter you know pretty much nothing about it at this point, how in the heck do you know it will be dissapointing without even trying it? Judgemental much?

You don't get it, do you?

The fact it's free is irrelevant. It's not like we'll get this and then the possibility for a paid Ending Change DLC aswell.

This is it. This is all we're getting, paid or not. And at least based upon the comments describing the nature of the DLC, its existence is not a boon but a liability.

I hope to God I am wrong but it seems very unlikely if their description was anything to go by.

[OgFux69]

Although I highly doubt they can fix that DISASTER with clarification.

[Vox Draco]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tleining wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...


Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

i'll take that Alternative

Why...? So, you hate the catalyst so much, that you would sacrifice the entirety of galactic civilization, now, and every 50,000 years, because your that selfish? Thats what I just read.

pft..blame Bioware, not the players...if they had provided us with ANY kind of proof that the Child can be trusted,for example by introducing him a earlier and hinting at him? maybe then we could believe him. But as it stands now, he just pops up and all Shepard can do is doom the Galaxy in some kind of way...

For me, the Star Child still is a Reaper and a mass-murderer. I'd rather make it bitterweet and sacrifice some synths to get rid of this abomination...

Or, as it seems now, I'll will hardly ever have to make that decision again anyway, as I don't feel like playing any ME-Game anytime soon again....

[TRISTAN WERBE]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

TRISTAN WERBE wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Not sure if I will bother to reinstall Mass Effect 3... on summer... I mean, come on - summer.

yea ill be swimming

I'm not going to complain, I think I know what they're going for, but honestly, they should have known better in the first place. "Criticaly Acclaimed" or not, a lot of people might not bother after few months from launch.

On the other side - I'm sure they are aware of it, so it does seam they're doing it with those few individuals who will bother in mind.

im shure some people will obsesse over it and leak the endings online in may most likely could if you think about it summer could be may or june which is kinda early but they said more content will come before that so im thinking at least Omega DLC which id accutaly like to play cause it sounds fun and MP DLC but alot of people will have other stuff to do or the ones on strike will stay on strike

[Captiosus77]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

Dude, you're making yourself look woefully ignorant.

GO READ THE FAQ.

We know everything there is to know.
No additional player choices.
No additional player driven dialog.
Simple "clarification" of the existing endings.

It is lipstick on a pig under the guise of "artistic integrity". The same, tired, condescension acting as though we're too stupid to understand their "vision" so they're giving us limited new cutscenes and epilogues to "explain" it to us.

GO READ THE FAQ.

What we're getting (or not getting) is all explained there. If you can't understand the simple Q&A presented, I have little else to say to you.

[RUDAL]

ME3 and its "clarifying" DLC - no additional costs

well what about that BW/EA  www.youtube.com/watch ?

10GB of content (33 minutes of cut scenes and 4 hours of additional gameplay) and it's all free and ON ONE even asked for it !!

Thats how you treat your fans !

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Modifié par RUDAL, 05 avril 2012 - 08:14 .

[Leafs43]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Anyone else think this DLC is crap?The endings suck and I don't see how extra cutscenes are going to help any?

The only people who don't think its sucks are the people that want some closure and can't wrap their small minds around the huge plot holes the endings created.

[Myrmedus]

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Wrong.

The exchange with the Catalyst was a bluffing game. The only reason it wiped out organics was because it believed it was doing right, not for spite. Since you had now forced it to reconsider its position, it no longer necessarily thought its cycle was right. Therefore, you had a measure of power in that bargain to at least try to object yet Shepard never used it.

Bad. Writing.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 05 avril 2012 - 08:14 .

[terdferguson123]

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

[Wolfen919]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Complaining that the content will not ultimately ease our discontent with the ending.

But it's free, it doesn't cost you ANYTHING. Let me spell this out... you. are. not. losing. anything. by. playing. this. dlc. And, for that matter you know pretty much nothing about it at this point, how in the heck do you know it will be dissapointing without even trying it? Judgemental much?

It's not being judgemental at all. They described what the DLC would do for us. It totally ignores the issue at hand. They only proposed to fix a half of the original problem. 

It's like you asked for mcdonald's to remake your food because it was made incorrectly, but to make it up they gave me a dollar menu item. That's not what I asked for.

I appreciate the effort, but we all realize that this was going to happen. This closure DLC will be somewhat pleasant, but is still ignoring one of the biggest problems with the ending; damn inconsistencies. 

Modifié par Wolfen919, 05 avril 2012 - 08:16 .

[BlankPage]

This one isn't satisfied. They're going to keep their God-space-magic-kid over some "artistic vision" crap. Great.

I don't -want- closure. I want the starbrat and the whole color selection gone.

[Adam2190]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

It's a smart move on their part, they offer us free DLC with very little content that doesn't actually improve anything but because they give it for free anyone that is still unhappy about it look like whiners. They don't lose much money in production and they make it look like they made it from the good in their heart.

[puppy maclove]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

SORRY BUD... BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT HERE. :innocent:

[Tleining]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Why...? So, you hate the catalyst so much, that you would sacrifice the entirety of galactic civilization, now, and every 50,000 years, because your that selfish? Thats what I just read.

Nooo, but the Catalyst is the Leader of the Reapers, you know, Reapers? Our Enemies? So if i have the choice between coming up with a new Solution based on the screwed up Logic of that thing, or go down fighting....my Shepard would go down fighting. "Never ever give up!"
Maybe our fleet won't be able to fight them back, maybe they'll all die. But we won't give in to the Species that had spent the last billion years killing people. And we won't betray our Allies.

[MsKlaussen]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Anyone else think this DLC is crap?The endings suck and I don't see how extra cutscenes are going to help any?

There's a saying that if you have to explain what's funny about a joke then it's not really funny.

That's pretty much all there is to it...

[Myrmedus]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

[Headrusher]

You folks do realize that Bioware/EA isn't actually going to change the ending? As in the "starchild" bullsh*t will still be in the game?

All they are going to do, as some other folks here have eloquently put, is to "polish the turd".

But I will give credit where credit is due, at least its free turd. I bet they really had to fight their EA overlords for offering a free DLC.

[Atrumitos]

Sounds like it will be a whole lot of bull but I'll reserve judgement till I see it. Perhaps it will set things right.

Most likely it won't but I've got nothing to lose. Till then, I'm simply not buying any dlc.