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[812memphis]

yeah... thanks for killing the Mass Effect Series

[terdferguson123]

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Complaining that the content will not ultimately ease our discontent with the ending.

But it's free, it doesn't cost you ANYTHING. Let me spell this out... you. are. not. losing. anything. by. playing. this. dlc. And, for that matter you know pretty much nothing about it at this point, how in the heck do you know it will be dissapointing without even trying it? Judgemental much?

It's not being judgemental at all. They described what the DLC would do for us. It totally ignores the issue at hand. They only proposed to fix a half of the original problem. 

It's like you asked for mcdonald's to remake your food because it was made incorrectly, but to make it up they gave me a dollar menu item. That's not what I asked for.

I appreciate the effort, but we all realize that this was going to happen. This closure DLC will be somewhat pleasant, but is still ignoring one of the biggest problems with the ending; damn inconsistencies. 

Except, in your example, you have the food and can see it for what it is. Why does it not work here? Because, all you have is an announcement with barely anything to go off of. You are being judgemental, because you don't have the dlc yet, you havn't played it, and you have no idea how far the depths of "clarifying" will go. For all we know, after clarification, many of the plot holes will be fixed. Do you see what I am saying? It's a judging the book by it's cover situation and you, and many others are falling for it.

[refuse81]

Tleining wrote...

refuse81 wrote...

So, in light of the recent tweets from Jessica Merizan there's only one true ending, Destroy. The other two are pitfalls.

no. There are three endings and you can use your imagination to ...go where you want.
Destroy: they will rebuild the Relays, find the Normandy, Shepard and LI will be together.
Control: Reapers will rebuild the Relays, they will find the Normandy, Shepard-Reaper and LI will be together...somewhat
Synthesis: Reapers will rebuild the Relays, they will find the Normandy..... okay, can't come up with a Happy Solution for this right now.

How do you get from dying and giving up everything you are (blue) to reunite with love interest? I'm intrigued...

[mauro2222]

Myrmedus wrote...


No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

Clap clap clap

[Walshicus]

Sadly I think it's obvious at this point that Bioware just aren't listening despite their PR protestations.

A poorly constructed ending cannot be made into a well constructed ending by "clarifying" or "extending". It's not the detail we're complaining about, it's the entirity of the Star Child scene and beyond. It's the absurdity of the premise, the degree to which the authors evidently hate the universe as had been crafted up to that point.

That the polish to this proverbial turd is coming to us "free" is no consolation. You don't forgive the man who fits your windows wrong just because he comes back later to wash them. And I'd even dispute this is free. I paid full price for my copy of this game, and I was promised by Bioware and EA marketing that I'd get an ending appropriate to my choices in the trilogy - which I also paid full price for.

This was a golden opportunity for Bioware to seize the initiative. To show humility through an ending that Makes Sense. Instead it's gutting to know that the company which once brought us Baldur's Gate and Knights of the Old Republic has dragged its name through the mud.

I'm just not sure how they could possibly recover their reputation showing such arrogance. I know this purchaser of every ME2 DLC mission won't be spending another penny on Bioware content.

[Daedalus1773]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

You are being obtuse. People are criticizing the decision to release clarifying DLC, rather than the content of the DLC itself that doesn't yet exist.

But keep on pretending otherwise. Trollololol.

[Vlta]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...



Ah, choices...

See that doesn't even make sense since in two endings shepard dies, in the one ending where he doesn't die you're throwing the entire galaxy into the dark ages aka no friggin ships............so how in the hell do you reunite? Unless of course she's talking about more dlc pre-ending

[puppy maclove]

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

THE POINT..... HE GETS IT.    

[terdferguson123]

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

So wait.. you played the new dlc? Where can I download it?

[Deuterium_Dawn]

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Yay for plot devices. And while the impossibility of conventional victory is played up, we aren't given a good reason why other than perhaps sheer numbers, which can be overcome. They're more advanced than we are, but not impossibly so. We know Thanix weaponry(derived from reaper tech) is effective against them and the codex entry on the Reapers suggests that if the right strategies were employed they could in fact be defeated. The Turians, especially with Krogan help, seem to have made a pretty good go of it.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

And then anyone nearby a mass relay dies anyway and the rest of the galaxy is plunged into a dark age.

[BlankPage]

Nevermind. This one is satisfied.
https://twitter.com/...955957643481088

[Gterror2]

In summer?Damn now i need to wait for another 6 months to see that "closure" DLC, nice to see BW will release it free, not following the Capcom "True Ending" 6$ BS.

[ungodlike]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Anyone else think this DLC is crap?The endings suck and I don't see how extra cutscenes are going to help any?

Maybe, if whatever the DLC does fails to make more sense of the endings than all the speculation and theories players have come up with yeah it will be crap then, we will have to see first.

[terdferguson123]

Daedalus1773 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

You are being obtuse. People are criticizing the decision to release clarifying DLC, rather than the content of the DLC itself that doesn't yet exist.

But keep on pretending otherwise. Trollololol.

And your missing my entire point. Saying something will "clarify", could mean a number of different things. Clarification could make the current endings seem genius if done right. That's my point. You guys are all judging this without even playing it or knowing much of anything about it. I am not trolling, you guys just are being overly judgemental of something that you know very little about and it's making me sad.

[Tocquevillain]

Myrmedus wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Wrong.

The exchange with the Catalyst was a bluffing game. The only reason it wiped out organics was because it believed it was doing right, not for spite. Since you had now forced it to reconsider its position, it no longer necessarily thought its cycle was right. Therefore, you had a measure of power in that bargain to at least try to object yet Shepard never used it.

Bad. Writing.

"Wrong"? About what? You haven't said what I'm wrong about. What do you mean "object"? Object to what? Object to the choices being made? The Starchild gave him a choice, if Shepard didn't make a choice from the options, Starchild would just let the Reapers do their work. What would you object to? There's nothing, your job to end the threat. You end it.

I'm totally bewildered by this, please explain.

[refuse81]

Gterror2 wrote...

In summer?Damn now i need to wait for another 6 months to see that "closure" DLC, nice to see BW will release it free, not following the Capcom "True Ending" 6$ BS.

October isn't summer...

[Tleining]

refuse81 wrote...

How do you get from dying and giving up everything you are (blue) to reunite with love interest? I'm intrigued...

shannon.users.sonic.net/masseffect/

this was posted yesterday social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11005521/1#11005521

if your War Assets are high enough (and Liara is your LI) it basically says that Shepard is now in every Reaper in the Galaxy and can somehow get a new body (or at least get back to Liara).
Try it, really great project.

[Wolfen919]

terdferguson123 wrote...
Except, in your example, you have the food and can see it for what it is. Why does it not work here? Because, all you have is an announcement with barely anything to go off of. You are being judgemental, because you don't have the dlc yet, you havn't played it, and you have no idea how far the depths of "clarifying" will go. For all we know, after clarification, many of the plot holes will be fixed. Do you see what I am saying? It's a judging the book by it's cover situation and you, and many others are falling for it.

I know exactly how the DLC will happen because of this quote:  “We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.” 

Does it mention anything about rewriting the ending? No? Then I know I will not be completely satisfied. If Bioware is not changing the ending at all, which this DLC states it will not, then clarity and closure will not do jack for me.

My point still stands. Thank you.

terdferguson123 wrote... 
And your missing my entire point. Saying something will "clarify", could mean a number of different things. Clarification could make the current endings seem genius if done right. That's my point. You guys are all judging this without even playing it or knowing much of anything about it. I am not trolling, you guys just are being overly judgemental of something that you know very little about and it's making me sad. 

You can't clarify the many plot holes that were in ME3. Bioware dug themselves in a hole that they cannot crawl out of in plot holes and any further explanation of the plot holes would most likely create MORE plot holes. It's impossible to fix this mess dude. 

Modifié par Wolfen919, 05 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[refuse81]

Tleining wrote...

refuse81 wrote...

How do you get from dying and giving up everything you are (blue) to reunite with love interest? I'm intrigued...

shannon.users.sonic.net/masseffect/

this was posted yesterday social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11005521/1#11005521

if your War Assets are high enough (and Liara is your LI) it basically says that Shepard is now in every Reaper in the Galaxy and can somehow get a new body (or at least get back to Liara).
Try it, really great project.

"
This is a fan created work[/i]. It is not endorsed by BioWare or Electronic Arts. "

[thegame30]

What is amazing in all of this is that we never got a confrontation with Harbinger no dialog, no fighting nothing... Harbinger just shoots you and that it? lol

[puppy maclove]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

So wait.. you played the new dlc? Where can I download it?

WOW.... I think you might be the Starchild? 

[terdferguson123]

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...
Except, in your example, you have the food and can see it for what it is. Why does it not work here? Because, all you have is an announcement with barely anything to go off of. You are being judgemental, because you don't have the dlc yet, you havn't played it, and you have no idea how far the depths of "clarifying" will go. For all we know, after clarification, many of the plot holes will be fixed. Do you see what I am saying? It's a judging the book by it's cover situation and you, and many others are falling for it.

I know exactly how the DLC will happen because of this quote:  “We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.” 

Does it mention anything about rewriting the ending? No? Then I know I will not be completely satisfied. If Bioware is not changing the ending at all, which this DLC states it will not, then clarity and closure will not do jack for me.

My point still stands. Thank you.

Keep on judging that book by it's cover. Keep on keeping on man!

[The Divine Avenger]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tleining wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...


Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

i'll take that Alternative

Why...? So, you hate the catalyst so much, that you would sacrifice the entirety of galactic civilization, now, and every 50,000 years, because your that selfish? Thats what I just read.

No it's this simple for me

WTF was the point of that we care we want your opinion thread the other week, they've basicly turned round & said " thanks for your money now F*** off"

We are listening to your complaints NO YOUR NOT or you'll know the biggest complaint revolves around GOD CHILD
.
ME1 Quote

"You touch my mind fumbling in ignerance incapable of understanding"

No I understand just fine, your a synthetic ba**ard that was created by some random GOD CHILD AI to wipe out all galactic life so galactic life doesn't build synthetics that will wipe them out.

Vigil told you himself that by the time that the reapers returned to Dark Space the only prothians that were left were the top scientists. They used the conduit to go to the citadel & then they reprogramed the keepers to stop them from obaying the reapers
.
If GOD CHILD was always on the citadel them why did'nt he signal Soverin when the Prothian scientist's started there attempts at rewriting the keepers.

So the awnser is NO they have not listened to a damb thing we've said the end will remain broken unless GOD CHILD is addressed.

Modifié par The Divine Avenger, 05 avril 2012 - 08:28 .

[ThaDan64]

I'm willing to give this DLC a chance, especially since it is free.
However it sounds like Space Magic 2.0 and as it is I hate the current ending.
Unless this dlc can really fix this broken ending, I'll probably be done with BW.
I'm giving it a chance though.