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[ForceXev]

I love how people are already basically posting "reviews" of this DLC. "OMG, this DLC sucks!"

Really? Are you all time travelers? Can I get a ride in your time machines?

Latching onto a few words like "clarity," "closure" and "cutscenes" is not enough to make a fair judgement of this DLC.

I'm happy to be taking away these three things from this announcement:
A) They really are doing something.
They're taking until the summer, which gives them time to do it right, not a rush job.
C) It's FREE

Give it a chance. If it fails to answer the issues and the plot holes and it sucks, THEN I will complain along with you. We have to actually play it first before we judge it.

[2Shepards]

Ah yes.  "Clarity and closure."

If they fill massive plot holes, I will be pleased.  Disappointed that they still think their ending perfection, but pleased nonetheless.

Holding the line.

[Johanna]

terdferguson123 wrote...
And your missing my entire point. Saying something will "clarify", could mean a number of different things. Clarification could make the current endings seem genius if done right. That's my point. You guys are all judging this without even playing it or knowing much of anything about it. I am not trolling, you guys just are being overly judgemental of something that you know very little about and it's making me sad.

I've had my tantrum and between this and other unpleasant RL things, I'm emotionally exhausted.

Terd's right.
Besides, they're already on this project.
All we can do is wait and see.
I trust that Jessica Merizan isn't jerking us around.

My Shep is my own hero.  I'm so very attached to her that I'm unable to give up hope.
And where hope ends, fanfiction begins.
I think I'll paint that 8 foot portrait of her after all.

Modifié par pants witch, 05 avril 2012 - 08:29 .

[Daedalus1773]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Daedalus1773 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Captiosus77 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Are you guys really complaining about free stuff?

Think about this for a second.... Please, I need you guys to do it, I can't even believe what I am seeing. They are giving us FREE content, and you guys are actually complaining.

Just because something is free does not mean it's immune to critique. The fact is what they're giving us, free, according to the FAQ, is just lipstick on a pig.

Forgive me, but critique usually comes after you have seen what it is. You have no argument, you are complaining over something free that you havn't tried or knnow anything about.

You are being obtuse. People are criticizing the decision to release clarifying DLC, rather than the content of the DLC itself that doesn't yet exist.

But keep on pretending otherwise. Trollololol.

And your missing my entire point. Saying something will "clarify", could mean a number of different things. Clarification could make the current endings seem genius if done right. That's my point. You guys are all judging this without even playing it or knowing much of anything about it. I am not trolling, you guys just are being overly judgemental of something that you know very little about and it's making me sad.

You are wrong. 

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

[/list]Some of us strongly believe that the introduction of the StarKid character, his dialogue (or lack thereof) and motivations (as silly as they are) are the problem.  Clarifying them will not change the fact that this ending with this character is broken.

But keep arguing with everyone, understanding absolutely nothing & insisting nobody can understand you when you criticize them for holding a position they don't actually hold. Good luck with that.

[Wolfen919]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Wolfen919 wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...
Except, in your example, you have the food and can see it for what it is. Why does it not work here? Because, all you have is an announcement with barely anything to go off of. You are being judgemental, because you don't have the dlc yet, you havn't played it, and you have no idea how far the depths of "clarifying" will go. For all we know, after clarification, many of the plot holes will be fixed. Do you see what I am saying? It's a judging the book by it's cover situation and you, and many others are falling for it.

I know exactly how the DLC will happen because of this quote:  “We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.” 

Does it mention anything about rewriting the ending? No? Then I know I will not be completely satisfied. If Bioware is not changing the ending at all, which this DLC states it will not, then clarity and closure will not do jack for me.

My point still stands. Thank you.

Keep on judging that book by it's cover. Keep on keeping on man!

... just don't be disappointed if I end up being correct in my assumption. 

[RedTail F22]

clarity and closure huh?

well good bye Mass Effect. We had a good run

[The BS Police]

I'll reserve judgement untill I see the extended ending, but I do want a new ending or atleast a couple additional choices in the ending. The Starchild plot definitly goes against everything about the Reapers from the first two games, let alone we don't even get a suitable confrontation with Harbinger.

I give props to bioware for doing this, but it may not be enough.

[Myrmedus]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

So wait.. you played the new dlc? Where can I download it?

Are you serious?

Read the press release IN THIS VERY THREAD:

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No.
  BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of
  this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
  on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Holy crap...

[terdferguson123]

ForceXev wrote...

I love how people are already basically posting "reviews" of this DLC. "OMG, this DLC sucks!"

Really? Are you all time travelers? Can I get a ride in your time machines?

Latching onto a few words like "clarity," "closure" and "cutscenes" is not enough to make a fair judgement of this DLC.

I'm happy to be taking away these three things from this announcement:
A) They really are doing something.
They're taking until the summer, which gives them time to do it right, not a rush job.
C) It's FREE

Give it a chance. If it fails to answer the issues and the plot holes and it sucks, THEN I will complain along with you. We have to actually play it first before we judge it.

OMG another person with a brain. No way!

[Tocquevillain]

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Yay for plot devices. And while the impossibility of conventional victory is played up, we aren't given a good reason why other than perhaps sheer numbers, which can be overcome. They're more advanced than we are, but not impossibly so. We know Thanix weaponry(derived from reaper tech) is effective against them and the codex entry on the Reapers suggests that if the right strategies were employed they could in fact be defeated. The Turians, especially with Krogan help, seem to have made a pretty good go of it.

....
And then anyone nearby a mass relay dies anyway and the rest of the galaxy is plunged into a dark age.

The game states that even with the Krogran, Palaven is losing.
The codex states it takes four dreadnoughts, firing together to destroy a Sovereign-class Reaper. There are thousands of Reapers in the galaxy, there are less than fifty dreadnoughts.
The codex states that smaller ships can take out smaller Reapers, but again the numbers are skewed.
The codex stated that there are certain weaknesses that can be exploited, but that they are ultimately not very exploitable, because the weaknesses are only for short periods of time (like when descending through the atmosphere of a planet, their shielding is weaker).

As to your last point, one of the narrative themes is "history repeats". You break this cycle as Shepard. Obviously, Bioware misjudged how well something like this would go over in a videogame. But let me just say this. The clarification DLC reunites you with your team, who are all in or around Earth at the time of the relay explosions. If the relays explode and destroy the solar system, how can you be reunited with your team? Also, even if the galaxy is plunged into a dark age (and given that Bioware are making ME4 as stated by Ray Muzyka, it's obviously NOT), it is free of Reaper control and the cycle. That's the most important takeaway.

[mupchu777]

Look at this point I like the fact that they at least admit the ending wasn't very good for everyone. I think the whole artistic integrity thing is a sham.. Seriously... see the many golden turd comments throughout the forum. I'm glad it's free but at this point I'd pay for something better... and I also doubt they are going to be able to tie things up nicely. It's hard to come back from promising such an amazing ending, without the easy a, b, c choices; and delivering the exact opposite. I'm interested what they will do, but not overly optimistic. Especially since all that is promised is extended cut scenes and text. The time for being optimistic with BW is past... I think the retake movement and the fans were very clear about what sucked, and we get the artistic integrity line... While I do agree BW, as authors, have a right to tell the story they want to... I also have the right not to buy into it. I'll take the free DLC and hope it moves the series from a terrible ending to a meh ending.. but fundamental trust is gone and I'm doing the only things I can. Cancelled SWTOR account, future purchases will require much more forethought... Interest in next BW game... gone... I know it's nothing in the big scheme of things for BW as I'm only 1 customer out of the billions out there. I'm not entitled to dictate to them how I wanted the story to go. In fact I actually like the story they told up til the last friken 15 minutes... I just can't purchase these games anymore without forethought... they are no longer instant purchases and I wont buy into the hype anymore... I've transitioned from a BW fan to a consumer... sad... I've just been let down 1 too many times...

[Myrmedus]

Tocquevillain wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Wrong.

The exchange with the Catalyst was a bluffing game. The only reason it wiped out organics was because it believed it was doing right, not for spite. Since you had now forced it to reconsider its position, it no longer necessarily thought its cycle was right. Therefore, you had a measure of power in that bargain to at least try to object yet Shepard never used it.

Bad. Writing.

"Wrong"? About what? You haven't said what I'm wrong about. What do you mean "object"? Object to what? Object to the choices being made? The Starchild gave him a choice, if Shepard didn't make a choice from the options, Starchild would just let the Reapers do their work. What would you object to? There's nothing, your job to end the threat. You end it.

I'm totally bewildered by this, please explain.

Wrong about Shepard not having any other option.

Starchild would not have just let the Reapers do their work because it no longer ordained their work as a workable solution, hence why it was even willing in the first place to "find a new solution". In addition, with the option for "Destroy" available to us that was yet another bargaining chip to use in the exchange.

There was enough wiggle room there to interject. We were never given the option, even a failed attempt. We were simply given the option to nod our head like a little lost lamb.

Let me give you an example:

We could destroy the Reapers and the Catalyst. That option was open to us. What if we used that, the fact the Catalyst's solution didn't work and the peace we brokered with the Geth as the crux of an argument for the Reapers to leave the galaxy to its own devices, risks and all, and in exchange we leave the Citadel relay activated and the Reapers can invade if all-out war breaks out between us and synthetics again?

In other words: let us try for peace on our own and if it screws up then fair enough.

Or anything. There was more than enough there to make our own case rather than being pigeon-holed into 3 pre-ordained choices.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 05 avril 2012 - 08:38 .

[Headrusher]

"Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No.
BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of
this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned."

Yeah Ok. Basically, nothing is going to be changed.

[Gterror2]

refuse81 wrote...

Gterror2 wrote...

In summer?Damn now i need to wait for another 6 months to see that "closure" DLC, nice to see BW will release it free, not following the Capcom "True Ending" 6$ BS.

October isn't summer...

Yeah, work can change my perspective of summer...

[terdferguson123]

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.

Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

So wait.. you played the new dlc? Where can I download it?

Are you serious?

Read the press release IN THIS VERY THREAD:

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No.
  BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of
  this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
  on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Holy crap...

You are still judging something that you havn't played. I have no idea how you are not understanding this...I get it, they are not making a new ending. But who are you to say that with the right amount of clarification, you might actually like it? You dont know, you have not played it, and judging it before doing so is plain idiotic.

[jarrettwold]

Time to tiptoe through a minefield.

Bioware listened. I think that's evident from the phrasing in the press release. The retake movement did have an effect. I think they compiled all the feedback they could find across twitter, BSN and probably Reddit. They most likely viewed the majority of the feedback, as seeking clarification to the ending and went that route. That's cool, it's their baby and they've now said exactly what they're going to do.

Digging around it's seems to be a 75/25 positive/negative split in reaction to the news. If people are happy about it, then that's cool too. The ending DLC is going to be free which is even better news to those people. It's also a cool thing on Bioware's behalf to do. They could have charged for it, they're not going to. It's 2 months of development time that's coming out of their pocket, which is not cheap.

That being said, I didn't like the ending. I wanted alternate ending DLC, and I think a lot of people who wanted that were willing to shell out between 10-30USD to see that happen. Alternate ending DLC isn't going to happen so I'll deal with that. I'm not satisfied, but that's how the ball bounces.

At this point will I replay through ME3 to get to that clarified ending? No. I'll see how I will feel come summer, but at this point my gut instinct is telling me I'm not going to.

The only thing I'm going to be watching for at this point is Omega DLC, which I really want to play and signs of an MMO. If a MMO is going to be set in the past, not playing it. If it's set in the future by anything more than a hundred or two hundred years or so, not playing it. I liked the universe that existed in this ME trilogy, and want to play in that one.

Did I ever feel entitled to a new/alternate ending? Nope. Do I think they could have done cool things with one? Yup. If there was a precedent to be set for doing that, in a positive way, Bioware would have pulled it off.

So while I'm bummed, I'm happy that a lot of other people are excited. I will be saving my save, and backing it up to the xbox live cloud and on a thumbdrive. Being able to import a saved game into an MMO would be awesome. But, I do agree the Shep's story had to come to a close in this series.

[theflyingzamboni]

So which color pillow do you think EA will choose to receive its Golden Poo on?

Modifié par Led Guardian, 05 avril 2012 - 08:34 .

[jedsithor]

terdferguson123 wrote...


You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

It's simple really. The Reapers can be proved wrong. EDI and the Geth can prove that the Reapers are mistaken in their belief that organics and synthetics will always kill each other. At this point, the only threat to the galaxy are the Reapers themselves. If the Reapers were wrong in this cycle, how many other cycles did they get wrong? They've been doing it for a billion years.

You're right, it's out of character for Ren/Par Shep to let everyone die. What's also out of character is Shep not pointing out the enormous flaw in Starchild's logic. Maybe everyone dying should be an option as a "worst" ending. Shepard makes his case, he fails to convince Starchild and the Reapers wipe everyone out. But if you make the right choices, why not have one where nobody else has to die? Shepard makes his case, convinces Starchild and the Reapers leave for Dark Space, vowing to return only if organics and synthetics can't get along. Or maybe the Reapers decide to leave but Harbinger refuses and has to be taken down before he can destroy the Citadel with Shepard on it. Shepards survival would come down to war assets.

The Reapers being wrong changes everything. At least it should. The three ending choices could easily have been kept intact. An additional option where Shepard can make his case would allow for both the "best" and "worst" endings in addition to the original endings with variations depending on choices, assets etc.

To me, that's the best compromise. It doesn't disregard the current endings and rewrite them, Shepard's choices matter in how successful he is, it allows for a happy ending and an utterly catastrophic ending, Shepard doesn't stop being Shepard in those final moments. Add some cutscenes, including one of Joker evacuating the Normandy crew for the original endings (maybe the Normandy taking on Harbinger in the added endings) and epilogue scenes that are different depending on what happened and...well...everyone gets what they want, right? New endings that make sense. Old endings remain intact and make more sense because in those endings Shepard hasn't united the Quarian and Geth and doesn't have a case to make, plot holes resolves, closure for characters.

It's actually quite simple and all it needs is a Par/Ren option for Shepard in the final conversation.

[Bestyj669]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...



Ah, choices...

I guess you have to go with Blue ending to get that ... Damn choices ... Not sure who Green & Red would mean though

[Kamuchi]

Tocquevillain wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Yay for plot devices. And while the impossibility of conventional victory is played up, we aren't given a good reason why other than perhaps sheer numbers, which can be overcome. They're more advanced than we are, but not impossibly so. We know Thanix weaponry(derived from reaper tech) is effective against them and the codex entry on the Reapers suggests that if the right strategies were employed they could in fact be defeated. The Turians, especially with Krogan help, seem to have made a pretty good go of it.

....
And then anyone nearby a mass relay dies anyway and the rest of the galaxy is plunged into a dark age.

The game states that even with the Krogran, Palaven is losing.
The codex states it takes four dreadnoughts, firing together to destroy a Sovereign-class Reaper. There are thousands of Reapers in the galaxy, there are less than fifty dreadnoughts.
The codex states that smaller ships can take out smaller Reapers, but again the numbers are skewed.
The codex stated that there are certain weaknesses that can be exploited, but that they are ultimately not very exploitable, because the weaknesses are only for short periods of time (like when descending through the atmosphere of a planet, their shielding is weaker).

As to your last point, one of the narrative themes is "history repeats". You break this cycle as Shepard. Obviously, Bioware misjudged how well something like this would go over in a videogame. But let me just say this. The clarification DLC reunites you with your team, who are all in or around Earth at the time of the relay explosions. If the relays explode and destroy the solar system, how can you be reunited with your team? Also, even if the galaxy is plunged into a dark age (and given that Bioware are making ME4 as stated by Ray Muzyka, it's obviously NOT), it is free of Reaper control and the cycle. That's the most important takeaway.

That was befor the Thanix cannons, i`m more suprised that we didn`t see the Normandy tear a reaper apart and half the Turian fleet a few dozen with ease

[Subject Alpha]

I will reserve judgement until I've played the DLC.
However, this sounds bad... Like they're just going to ignore anything they don't like, leading to more plot holes =\\

[Varus Torvyn]

I was hoping our choices would matter, like they did for the ending of ME2.

Single-player still needs a mission to raise fleet effectiveness...not everyone wants to run multiplayer.

Modifié par Varus Torvyn, 05 avril 2012 - 08:42 .

[The Divine Avenger]

pants witch wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...
And your missing my entire point. Saying something will "clarify", could mean a number of different things. Clarification could make the current endings seem genius if done right. That's my point. You guys are all judging this without even playing it or knowing much of anything about it. I am not trolling, you guys just are being overly judgemental of something that you know very little about and it's making me sad.

I've had my tantrum and between this and other unpleasant RL things, I'm emotionally exhausted.

Terd's right.
Besides, they're already on this project.
All we can do is wait and see.
I trust that Jessica Merizan isn't jerking us around.

My Shep is my own hero.  I'm so very attached to her that I'm unable to give up hope.
And where hope ends, fanfiction begins.
I think I'll paint that 8 foot portrait of her after all.

So you people have made you peace with being lied to about the 16 "DIFFERENT" ending's & the A, B, C, choices that weren't supposed to be in the game. Fair enough but me I no longer trust a word that come's out of their mouth, I can't afford to the pain I feel over this is stll too freash & it's been nearly a month. You can set yourselfs up fopr a fall if you want but I'm not going to join you, they addmited to NOT changing anything about the ending GOD CHILD is the biggest issue of the whole game so it's clear they are'nt listening.

Modifié par The Divine Avenger, 05 avril 2012 - 08:38 .

[VHohenheim]

As long as these additional "scenes" make the star child more plausible, there are more differences between the three current endings, and I can see more than a stranded Normandy, I'll be fine. I would rather have had something about Dark Energy than the star child and doubt that they are going to change whether the relay's self-destruct.

I would have liked to know that I didn't just play ME, ME2 and ME3 to get an ending that caused me to question the entirety of the series for just a ten minute ending and epilogue. Hoping that this clears up most if not all questions about the ending, summer can't come soon enough.

[2Shepards]

[quote]terdferguson123 wrote...

[quote]Myrmedus wrote...

[quote]terdferguson123 wrote...

[quote]Myrmedus wrote...

[quote]terdferguson123 wrote...

[quote]Tocquevillain wrote...

[quote]Kamuchi wrote...

[quote]Tocquevillain wrote...

[quote]Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

If the DLC reasonable explains how Glowboy isn't a deus ex machina who ends the game by essentially just forcing you to make a choice of three buttons to push while having absolutely no reason to trust Glowboy on any of them, I'll be happy.


[/quote]

Shepard had no choice but to trust Starchild because the alternative was the death of everyone in the galaxy by Reaper.

Duh.

[/quote]
Actually, i`d have told that starbrat to go to hell, atleast you had a fighting chance with that entire armada to kill some reapers system by system, planet by planet as the relays weren`t destroyed

More sense with all your choices then be forced to pick your 3 color doomsday effect... <_<

[/quote]

Actually you had zero chance, it was already said that the Reapers can't be defeated conventionally. Your ONLY chance is to use the Crucible.


[quote]Tleining wrote...



i'll take that Alternative ../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/quote]


Shepard would take the options sooner than let everyone die.

[/quote]

You can't convince them, I have tried. They spend so much time arguing that they don't just want a sunshine and rainbows ending. But then they refuse to accept that A.) The game tells you several times that stopping the Reapers conventionally is not possible, and B.) stopping an extinction event is going to cause mass sacrifice and galactic change no matter what path is taken.

They also cannot seem to understand that more is at stake then just the current galactic life. How are you guys not understanding that life will continue to be destroyed every 50k years if you don't do something now? It's out of character of either paragon or renegade shep to just say "screw you!" and let everyone die. 

[/quote]

No offence but this post really pissed me off.

You're not getting through because you're not listening.

I'm pretty sure you'd been told numerous times that we both didn't want a sunshine and rainbows ending but that we also wanted additional endings. NO, they didn't need to be sunshine and rainbows, but we didn't want the existing endings which was the entire crux of the Retake movement.

Does this new DLC offer changed or additional endings?

No.

End of story.

[/quote]

So wait.. you played the new dlc? Where can I download it?

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Are you serious?

Read the press release IN THIS VERY THREAD:

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Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No.
  BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of
  this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
  on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.[/quote]

Holy crap...

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You are still judging something that you havn't played. I have no idea how you are not understanding this...I get it, they are not making a new ending. But who are you to say that with the right amount of clarification, you might actually like it? You dont know, you have not played it, and judging it before doing so is plain idiotic.
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Techinicly you won't be playing...You'll be watching.  Where did it say anything about new gameplay, cause I missed it if it did.