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Myrmedus wrote...

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The fact you folks honestly expected a complete re-write, and thought Bioware would actually do that?

You set yourselves up to be let down. The only ones to blame here is you.


Not re-write but additional options/endings would've been a viable possibility.


Except that none of the "additional options" I've seen fans come up with work at all with what we're given.

It's clear that the endings we got are WAI (Working As Intended), but that we missed something or something got lost in translation.

Which is what we're going to get.

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They seem to have missed the problem, but we'll see where this goes. I appreciate that they're doing this for free, however, this isn't going to fix their problem. Starchild should, from an objective viewpoint, not be in the game unless introduced much sooner. Besides, this doesn't address the broken promises concerning choice and endings. They'll still be A,B and C. 

Modifié par Zix13, 05 avril 2012 - 10:22 .


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Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

ForceXev wrote...

I love how people are already basically posting "reviews" of this DLC. "OMG, this DLC sucks!"

Really? Are you all time travelers? Can I get a ride in your time machines?

Latching onto a few words like "clarity," "closure" and "cutscenes" is not enough to make a fair judgement of this DLC.

I'm happy to be taking away these three things from this announcement:
A) They really are doing something.
B) They're taking until the summer, which gives them time to do it right, not a rush job.
C) It's FREE

Give it a chance. If it fails to answer the issues and the plot holes and it sucks, THEN I will complain along with you. We have to actually play it first before we judge it.


OMG another person with a brain. No way!


Pre-requisite to "having a brain" = Agreeing with Tardferguson.

And I thought I was egomaniacal.




Well, you can throw insults around all day. But, this poster and a handful of others are the only other people I have come across in this thread that have shown they have the mental capacity to realize that judging something before it's even released is about as dumb as humanly possible.


That was just a reworded version of the equation I displayed in my original post. That is still "They're the only posters with the mental capacity to agree with my point."

I'd also consider a great deal of your posts insulting. I did wait awhile before I went to the same level at least but it's gotten a bit ridiculous now.


You are still avoiding everything I have posted to this point, and beating around the bush by reiterating the announcement and why it's apparently going to suck even though you have no basis for that whatsoever. Do you hear announcements for other things you claim to "love" and then immediately hate on them becuase something didn't go exactly as you imagined it in your head? While at the same time, forgetting that an announcement with barely any relevant info is enough to go on?

I have said it a hundred times, and I will say it again: You cannot reasonably judge something off of an announcement and nothing else, try it out, if you don't like it, THEN throw in your complaints, but complaining about it before it is even released just makes you seem like you are complaining for the sake of complaining.

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AkeasharK wrote...

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Although not made by Bioware KOTOR IIs ending was a shambles if my memory serves me correctly...


Kotor 2's ending is the worst I've ever played in an RPG, short of FFVII's 'Meteor falls... everyone dies?' until they released Advent's Children and showed that, no... everyone actually survived.


KotOR 2 ended on a cliffhanger, because everybody thought there was going to be a KotOR 3.  There wasn't, so the ending ended up being just bad.  ME3's is far, far worse, though.  Because it gives no hope.

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I definitely agree with giving this DLC a chance before raging but I'm not going to lie and say I don't have concerns. I'm not sure I've despised the ending of anything the way I despise the ending to ME3. That said, it's unlikely I'll download it without first watching this "extended cut" on youtube. I'm not sure I have it in me to play through that ending again even if it means I get clarification and closure.

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It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

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Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

I guess they didn't even understand it themselves when they came up with it. :?

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Not good enough, Bioware. You should not be proud of your "artistic decisions" with the end of the game. You should be ashamed.

You have tarnished an otherwise amazing trilogy with 10 minutes of egotistical nonsense. I hope you're happy and proud.

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Hang on a second, if they aren't releasing new endings, doesn't that mean we can trade in our games with no fear of DLC additions being added? You know, there's really no point keeping the game for the extended cut, you'll be able to see all the endings on youtube anyway, might as well cash in SOME money from your game before trade-in prices drop into the PS2 game area. You don't even need to worry about future DLC, that will be as equally plain and easy to watch on the internet as the current endings are. Seeing as we now know that the Mass Effect franchise has taken a .50 to the chest, we don't need to spend a penny more "just in case" they release another Mass Effect game, we can just watch everything on the internet and pay absolutely nothing to EA and Bioware. Actually buying the DLC will not affect our end saves at all, so there's no need to purchase it whatsoever, seeing as you could save £5 and just watch it on youtube, and you don't need to wait 20 minutes to download it!

Frankly, we now have no reason to buy anything from EAware, and anything we are actually interested in can be seen on the internet for minimal price. This will continue until either EA realises that the franchise is dead and releases their grip on it, or if they go belly-up. Short-term, this is a loss to both us and them, but long-term, we begin to see the winnings of this (we don't have to spend £45-£70 every two years (excluding DLC) and we can focus our money on more important things and/or better franchises who know not to f**k up their games). In the end, all EAware has done is lost a big chunk of their earnings and given a fair amount of it to their rivals, who will undoubtedly use this event to their advantage.

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Versidious wrote...

Because they're claiming the free stuff should appease us, but it doesn't actually fix any of the major problems we have with the endings? If it's good enough, then I might buy Bioware products in future, but leaving the ending as it is will still ruin the entire series for me, a series which I had hoped wwould give me another four or five playthroughs, so yeah, I will still be unhappy about the endings. If you have a problem with us still being unhappy, then you really ought to be talking to Bioware about that, and trying to get them to at least apologise to us...


The DLC isn't out so no one can claim it doesn't 'Fix' anything with the endings.

Why should any creator apologize? At least you're getting something. Some folks have been waiting since KotOR 2 was released for a patch fixing the endings (which were more than 5 minutes of rubbish)  I might as well ask George R Martin to apologize for the midnumbingly soul crushing bludgeoning that the Song of Ice & Fire is.

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Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?


Don't worry.  I'm sure the explanation will be as much of an ass pull as the star child.

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mtnsportr wrote...

Mass Effect is the first RPG-type game I ever played. My experience has completely soured due to the lame ending and the feeble attempt to extend the lameness.

Back to Counterstrike, Ghost Recon, Far Cry, Battlefield, Crysis...etc.

Bye RPG's!


Bye RPG's indeed. When you invest so much thought process in to choices made in them it really sucks even worse when they go downhill like this. It's not worth the risk any more.

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Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?


A mess like the ending is, I'm surprised it isn't going to take a full year or longer to explain.

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Liimer wrote...

Not good enough, Bioware. You should not be proud of your "artistic decisions" with the end of the game. You should be ashamed.

You have tarnished an otherwise amazing trilogy with 10 minutes of egotistical nonsense. I hope you're happy and proud.


Do you enjoy being miserable? 

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This is a major fail, players wanted a NEW BETTER ending not stuff added to the crappy ending that can never be good.

You cannot add anything to the current endings to make them good, just slightly less worse. I don't understand how you can be proud of this 'artistic vision' they speak of, when there is nothing artistic in it.

Fine expand it, I will play it since its free and see what it does. Most likely I will be back here to again ask for new endings.

If the expanded endings are as bad as I believe they will be, then goodbye Bioware, didn't think you would screw up this badly again

Modifié par UrdnotGrunty2, 05 avril 2012 - 10:23 .


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Liimer wrote...

Not good enough, Bioware. You should not be proud of your "artistic decisions" with the end of the game. You should be ashamed.

You have tarnished an otherwise amazing trilogy with 10 minutes of egotistical nonsense. I hope you're happy and proud.


Agreed.

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If Bioware insists on proving that they are not trustworthy then that's their prerogative and I'll go with it. It's not my first choice, but it seems Bioware would rather not take my money in the future than simply fix what's broken.

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EA Edmonton: "Here, please buy our other DLC while you wait for the free DLC.......It will be good-we promise"

Uhm.....Yeah.

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RiouHotaru wrote...

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Everyone (somewhat intelligent) understands the ending. People don't like it because its sophomoric and riddled with plot holes. 


Obviously they don't, or we wouldn't be getting the extended cut.  I think Bioware's realized that something about the ending is being lost in translation.

And now they're going to fix that mistake.  I couldn't ask for a better response.


....we're getting the extended cut because so many consumers are outraged by the ending. We were never asking for them to explain it to us, we just wanted it to be less crappy.

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mtnsportr wrote...

Mass Effect is the first RPG-type game I ever played. My experience has completely soured due to the lame ending and the feeble attempt to extend the lameness.

Back to Counterstrike, Ghost Recon, Far Cry, Battlefield, Crysis...etc.

Bye RPG's!


Don't leave RPGs when the reason you dislike ME3 is because it abandoned tey thing that made it into a RPG. 
Lots of other games still let you chose stuff, build your character like you want and give you an ending that makes sense within the narrative. 

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RiouHotaru wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

The fact you folks honestly expected a complete re-write, and thought Bioware would actually do that?

You set yourselves up to be let down. The only ones to blame here is you.


Not re-write but additional options/endings would've been a viable possibility.


Except that none of the "additional options" I've seen fans come up with work at all with what we're given.

It's clear that the endings we got are WAI (Working As Intended), but that we missed something or something got lost in translation.

Which is what we're going to get.


I have read plenty of fan fiction that makes perfect sense, is an appropriate ending, and even keeps the stupid starbrat in.

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Animositisomina wrote...

Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?


A mess like the ending is, I'm surprised it isn't going to take a full year or longer to explain.


Only someone as blind and arrogant as Mac or Casey would even think its possible to explain the ending they came up with in the first place and anyone buy it

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terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

ForceXev wrote...

I love how people are already basically posting "reviews" of this DLC. "OMG, this DLC sucks!"

Really? Are you all time travelers? Can I get a ride in your time machines?

Latching onto a few words like "clarity," "closure" and "cutscenes" is not enough to make a fair judgement of this DLC.

I'm happy to be taking away these three things from this announcement:
A) They really are doing something.
B) They're taking until the summer, which gives them time to do it right, not a rush job.
C) It's FREE

Give it a chance. If it fails to answer the issues and the plot holes and it sucks, THEN I will complain along with you. We have to actually play it first before we judge it.


OMG another person with a brain. No way!


Pre-requisite to "having a brain" = Agreeing with Tardferguson.

And I thought I was egomaniacal.




Well, you can throw insults around all day. But, this poster and a handful of others are the only other people I have come across in this thread that have shown they have the mental capacity to realize that judging something before it's even released is about as dumb as humanly possible.


That was just a reworded version of the equation I displayed in my original post. That is still "They're the only posters with the mental capacity to agree with my point."

I'd also consider a great deal of your posts insulting. I did wait awhile before I went to the same level at least but it's gotten a bit ridiculous now.


You are still avoiding everything I have posted to this point, and beating around the bush by reiterating the announcement and why it's apparently going to suck even though you have no basis for that whatsoever. Do you hear announcements for other things you claim to "love" and then immediately hate on them becuase something didn't go exactly as you imagined it in your head? While at the same time, forgetting that an announcement with barely any relevant info is enough to go on?

I have said it a hundred times, and I will say it again: You cannot reasonably judge something off of an announcement and nothing else, try it out, if you don't like it, THEN throw in your complaints, but complaining about it before it is even released just makes you seem like you are complaining for the sake of complaining.


Here is an analogy for you. The ending is a big heaping smelly pile of maneur. Now Bioware is not going to REPLACE that pile of maneur with something, they are going to add something onto the end of it.

How do we know it's still going to be bad? Well... you can't fix a pile of s-

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 Wow................ This is quite amazing... I just hope these inproved endings actually do provide closure and explaination to what happen...

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JohnShepard12 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

I guess they didn't even understand it themselves when they came up with it. :?


I was wondering how long it was going to take for people with zero understanding on making games would turn up.

Do you think they can snap their fingers and voila, all the content is done? It takes time to make cinematics, schedule in people for VA, do it, go through the QC process, testing it, the usual weeks or more of approval from Microsoft or Sony to put, etc etc.