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[lillitheris]

If they'd fixed the endings, I'd have been happy with bittersweet.

‘Clarity’, though? Better be lots of clarity with Shepard getting up from that pile of rubble and spending some time looking for the Normandy, in that case.

[Sphynxian]

At least their video conference press release was more succinct:

Modifié par Sphynxian, 05 avril 2012 - 10:25 .

[The Divine Avenger]

RiouHotaru wrote...

The fact you folks honestly expected a complete re-write, and thought Bioware would actually do that?

You set yourselves up to be let down. The only ones to blame here is you.

NO we don't want a rewrite we want additional endings, if the IT is true then that's fine but we still want the multipal endings that arn't A, B, C, endings.

[Njald]

Animositisomina wrote...

Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

A mess like the ending is, I'm surprised it isn't going to take a full year or longer to explain.

A year? try 5 minutes from me. It's easily explained, it's just not very good.
Here is a fast draft of what we will see in the DLC  
I do hope I'm wrong though.

Modifié par Njald, 05 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[Poison_Berrie]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Well, you can throw insults around all day. But, this poster and a handful of others are the only other people I have come across in this thread that have shown they have the mental capacity to realize that judging something before it's even released is about as dumb as humanly possible.

So that precludes us from making our judgements on the basis of the information we do have? All we can do is make a guess and for some what we know doesn't alleviate our concerns. I know I will continue to loath the synthesis ending for any clarification will be feel hollow in the face of that.
Sorry, I can think of a lot of things that are more dumb.

Also on the insults: pot meet kettle.

[sistersafetypin]

streamlock wrote...

EA Edmonton: "Here, please buy our other DLC while you wait for the free DLC.......It will be good-we promise"

Uhm.....Yeah.

The funny thing is, I bet they actually think people will be buying any DLC now. 

[Matt561]

This still doesn't justify them lying in the interviews.

[Taldek]

sigh... well I'm done with bioware, I have no interest in a polished turd and being lied to.

[TobyTucker]

This is akin to getting your nails done while ignoring your broken wrist. It certainly does nothing to fix my main complaint about the endings. The game is marketed as a battle to "Take Earth Back". The implied promise is that a successful playthrough will result in you achieving this goal. This very basic promise was broken and has yet to be addressed.

I am convinced the time needed to develop the "wildly different" endings promised before the game was released was devoted instead to the MP aspect of the game, no doubt at EA's insistence, to appeal to the "Call of Duty" crowd and assure a steady cash flow from character packs, weapon packs, map packs, ad nauseum. The fact the this new DLC will be nothing more than "cinematics" is an admission that EA has decided that the cost of developing new endings doesn't justify the possible return and has nothing at all to do with "artistic vision". IMHO that's a very short-sighted view and is certain to dampen the enthusiasm for further ME3 products much less any further games from BioWare. If that's the way they want to roll, so be it.

[Animositisomina]

Njald wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

A mess like the ending is, I'm surprised it isn't going to take a full year or longer to explain.

A year? try 5 minutes from me. It's easily explained, it's just not very good.
Here is a fast draft of what we will see in the DLC  
I do hope I'm wrong though.

"It's just not very good." That kind of defeats the point then, no?

[Dandynermite]

Extended cut will take one of the idiot story writers that have ruined Mass Effect two minutes.

Expensive piece of junk dlc with one useless mission will take the whole team, then they will sell it at 25% of the original game price.
Next comes multiplayer map-pack, same price.
Then there will be another piece of junk puzzle or something put in for twenty minutes.

Don't get your hopes us, don't think it's going to be good.

You want a decent story game go to the Fallouts, Bethseda/Obsidian
A decent TPS go Gears, or for FPS Halo, Bungie.
Decent game from developers who care about fans Diablo 3 Blizzard/Activison.
Cool new game to look forward to later on Assasins Creed 3.
Do not wait around for this ignorant, arrogant company to spew some pr crap or a two minute colour change at you.

[Velocithon]

Matt561 wrote...

This still doesn't justify them lying in the interviews.

This is a huge part why Bioware's rep still takes a hit with me. They can do whatever with the endings.

Fact remains they lied on so many occassions about this game and they've never acknowledged nor apologized for it.

[CmdrStJean]

My viewpoint remains as it was before. Clarification changes nothing so long as the Mass Relays are destroyed and Galactic Civilization (as we know it) dies a slow, war torn death. I am therefore not inclined to put much credence into whatever it is they're going to do at the moment, though I am intrigued that they're going to deliver this content free of charge. To be honest, this just sort of postpones the inevitable reckoning. Until I know more about what's going on I can neither support, nor fully walk away from the ME franchise. Well, I've waited for plenty of other things in life, guess I can do the same with this.

[Velocithon]

I noticed the FAQ says "additional cinematics and epilogue".

Anyone think the epilogue could include some gameplay?

[Sphynxian]

I'm also wondering why I should care about Omega (which is so obviously going to be a DLC) when the entire Omega system is destroyed in the aftermath of a demolished mass relay. I mean if flying a meteor into one was enough to destroy an entire star system, than what the crucible did couldn't possibly be any better...

[Kamuchi]

Animositisomina wrote...

Militarized wrote...

It took Walters 5 minutes to jot down this ending

Now it'll take him 3 months to explain it?

A mess like the ending is, I'm surprised it isn't going to take a full year or longer to explain.

Maybe that`s why they set the deadline for 2014, after that they will release it due to it`s complexity 

[Xaijin]

Noatz wrote...

“We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.”

Some new items here to take note of. Firstly they have confirmed their post launch schedule has been changed. Yes, we suspected this already but it is nice to know for sure they are not just "continuing as planned" and are acting on the outbreak.

Secondly, and more importantly is the last bit "will feel more personalised for each player". This is new, and significant, because it means they will be working on that crucial "choice" element.

Do people who immediately dismiss these statements as "more PR gloss" even read them?

It is PR gloss. People don't want the endings we have, they want a range of endings that reflect their actual choices without a chekhov ex machina. Secondly, acting like ALL of BioWare somehow wrote and constructed the ending is a bit ridiculous. Very few users have an issue with the WHOLE game. An overwhelming majority of users hate the ending. It's not rocket surgery. Changing the endings to be inline with the actual choices and plot up to that point is what most users want. The cost of doing so can be ameliorated through further Overlord style SP DLC, which users are likely to purchase if they know their choices and actions are actually being realized. Hell, you can throw in 2 MP maps and geth, batarian, and vorcha classes with it and you can probably get away with charging 20 bux.

[NvVanity]

Meh we're getting a free add-on that clarifies the ending that left us all saying "WTF?". Good enough for me. Better than Bioware ignoring us.

[tybbiesniffer]

I cheered out loud when I read the announcement. I'd actually be satisfied with clarification and closure. Maybe I'm the only one.

[nevar00]

Sphynxian wrote...

I'm also wondering why I should care about Omega (which is so obviously going to be a DLC) when the entire Omega system is destroyed in the aftermath of a demolished mass relay. I mean if flying a meteor into one was enough to destroy an entire star system, than what the crucible did couldn't possibly be any better...

No it wasn't, the relays going off were "controlled".


...Omega gets to starve to death instead now that there will be no supply ships reaching it anytime soon.

[Bullius]

I already posted this on one of the many disapointment threads.

But hey if they can't be bothered to change "the ending" I don't see why I should be to change my post so.......

No it's not enough, it's a ****ing insult, and still means the whole point of the three games up to the end was a load of bloody bollox.

Choices and consequences my arse, fans get ****ed over once again. I knew this was coming but I was foolish enough to hope they would cop on and give us several completly different endings, from horrible to happy (you know where all the Mass relays don't explode and maybe even Shep lives and we get to see how all our choices really mattered?)

So much for that eh?

To hell with this. Bioware I'm offically done.

[nevar00]

Xaijin wrote...

Noatz wrote...

“We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.”

Some new items here to take note of. Firstly they have confirmed their post launch schedule has been changed. Yes, we suspected this already but it is nice to know for sure they are not just "continuing as planned" and are acting on the outbreak.

Secondly, and more importantly is the last bit "will feel more personalised for each player". This is new, and significant, because it means they will be working on that crucial "choice" element.

Do people who immediately dismiss these statements as "more PR gloss" even read them?

It is PR gloss. People don't want the endings we have, they want a range of endings that reflect their actual choices without a chekhov ex machina.

Please don't compare Starkid to a Chekhov's gun.  That would imply Starchild had been illuded to with any of the games and not just thrown into the last 5 minutes with no introduction at all.

[The Edge]

Velocithon wrote...

Matt561 wrote...

This still doesn't justify them lying in the interviews.

This is a huge part why Bioware's rep still takes a hit with me. They can do whatever with the endings.

Fact remains they lied on so many occassions about this game and they've never acknowledged nor apologized for it.

Agreed. Rather than look at quotes they made long ago and acknowledging them, they use the "maintaining the artistic vision" arguement.

That arguement would work if they didn't make promises that they couldn't keep to their fans leading up to and following release.

[Asepsis]

I...can't even...breath...

I will try and control myself and reserve judgment until summer, but I seriously cannot fathom how the starchild conversation will ever make sense, EVER, in the ME universe.

[AkeasharK]

Dandynermite wrote...

You want a decent story game go to the Fallouts, Bethseda/Obsidian
A decent TPS go Gears, or for FPS Halo, Bungie.
Decent game from developers who care about fans Diablo 3 Blizzard/Activison.
Cool new game to look forward to later on Assasins Creed 3.
Do not wait around for this ignorant, arrogant company to spew some pr crap or a two minute colour change at you.

Bethesda... Daggerfall. Oh so very much, Daggerfall. Apparently they've improved over the years, but after that cataclysmic mess I've found it hard to get into any of their sandbox games.

Obsidian has relased some of the worst RPGs I've ever played. KotOR 2 chief among them.

Blizzard is releasing StarCraft 2 as three full priced games. That would be the equivalent of getting to the end of Mass Effect 3 and them going 'Oh yeah, part two of that will be out in a year or two, and cost the same amount'

And considering the total lack of respect and abuse they show their fanbase throughout WoW and its individual patches and expansions... ah... no.

No company is perfect. I'll still be getting the ME3 DLC because I enjoy the game, and theres much worse endings (I'm looking at you Sith Lords)

Further Bioware games...? After the shambles of Jade Empire and the backdraft over DA2, I'm at the point where unless its something that I care about, I'll wait until all the DLC is out and its $20 or less.