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[Zuka999]

Asepsis wrote...

I...can't even...breath...

I will try and control myself and reserve judgment until summer, but I seriously cannot fathom how the starchild conversation will ever make sense, EVER, in the ME universe.

It wont. Its time to put the games away forever.

[double02]

Sweet! More satisfaction for me, yay!

[Sphynxian]

nevar00 wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

I'm also wondering why I should care about Omega (which is so obviously going to be a DLC) when the entire Omega system is destroyed in the aftermath of a demolished mass relay. I mean if flying a meteor into one was enough to destroy an entire star system, than what the crucible did couldn't possibly be any better...

No it wasn't, the relays going off were "controlled".


...Omega gets to starve to death instead now that there will be no supply ships reaching it anytime soon.

It's highly likely that you're correct, but I can't seem to recall where it was stated that the destruction of the relays using the catalyst was "controlled." The blast waves and destruction seen looked like they were not controlled at all.

[TJWWE2007]

tybbiesniffer wrote...

I cheered out loud when I read the announcement. I'd actually be satisfied with clarification and closure. Maybe I'm the only one.

It comes down to, "Will it be enough?" 

So many people want LI closure and to see the galaxy adapt to your decisions, but with Shepard dead in many playthroughs, and the relays destroyed in most playthroughs, none of that can really be achieved.

[Yokokorama]

Lets give them a chance and see what they do with this instead of raging before we see what they do. If they slap together a piece of crap, then yeah, we will have a reason to complain. However, so far we should just wait it out and see what happens. We should still be active, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.

[Darkness625]

hope the extended cut dlc will give a happy ending, when u get 4000-5000 readiness. Continue off the part where sheperd wakes up on a pile of rubble and u unlock the happy ending.

[anarch1888]

Well, lots of crystall balls out there if people already know for sure that this is going to turn out sour. Theoretically speaking, anything is salvageable. If you look at any long fiction series, where characters get killed, resurrected and killed all over again on the whim of the author and social polls. For example, the author introduces details that the audience was unaware of and that change the flow of subsequent events in a totally unexpected direction...

Personally, I'd rather wait and see the thing for myself rather than jump to any conclusions. And respond with my wallet later on.

And surely Bioware will protect their product and their team - otherwise their shares will fall in price, pulling EA's shares along. And that will definitely not be pleasant. But that's how economy works. So even if a company is aware that there is a serious problem and throws all resources at it to fix it, they'll never openly admit it (unless it carries legal implications). As far as I know, only Asian companies do that (because of a difference in mentality).

[AkeasharK]

nevar00 wrote...

Please don't compare Starkid to a Chekhov's gun.  That would imply Starchild had been illuded to with any of the games and not just thrown into the last 5 minutes with no introduction at all.

You clearly haven't been paying attention, since theres been threads about mentions of something above the Reapers controlling the pattern since ME1, and being outright told it earliar in ME3. Haven't it being in the centre of the pattern, the Citadel, make sense.

[darknessmyown]

I remain HIGHLY skeptical, this says they still think the endings they gave are good for some rather bizarre reason. I am not looking for more views and close ups of a horrible ending, I am looking for a good ending lacking in plots holes and a number of other issues.

[Dandynermite]

AkeasharK wrote...

Dandynermite wrote...

You want a decent story game go to the Fallouts, Bethseda/Obsidian
A decent TPS go Gears, or for FPS Halo, Bungie.
Decent game from developers who care about fans Diablo 3 Blizzard/Activison.
Cool new game to look forward to later on Assasins Creed 3.
Do not wait around for this ignorant, arrogant company to spew some pr crap or a two minute colour change at you.

Bethesda... Daggerfall. Oh so very much, Daggerfall. Apparently they've improved over the years, but after that cataclysmic mess I've found it hard to get into any of their sandbox games.

Obsidian has relased some of the worst RPGs I've ever played. KotOR 2 chief among them.

Blizzard is releasing StarCraft 2 as three full priced games. That would be the equivalent of getting to the end of Mass Effect 3 and them going 'Oh yeah, part two of that will be out in a year or two, and cost the same amount'

And considering the total lack of respect and abuse they show their fanbase throughout WoW and its individual patches and expansions... ah... no.

No company is perfect. I'll still be getting the ME3 DLC because I enjoy the game, and theres much worse endings (I'm looking at you Sith Lords)

Further Bioware games...? After the shambles of Jade Empire and the backdraft over DA2, I'm at the point where unless its something that I care about, I'll wait until all the DLC is out and its $20 or less.

You ignore the Fallouts for RPGs, which have (oh my god !!) DIFFERENT ENDINGS DEPENDING ON YOUR CHOICES. 

You ignored Diablo 3 completely, focusing on a game with 10 million monthly players, and saying they are unhappy... go on their forums and find as much hate from their larger fan base please??

As for your endings point, there is one ending, only the colour changes. 

[RainbowDazed]

I ask you to give me my money back, Bioware. I am fair, so I only demand a refund for ME3 and for the Ashes DLC. Prove that this is about artistic integrity by offering a full refund to anyone who desires it.

Though I have a hunch that you won't do that. Because this is not about artistic integrity. This is about money. Schedules, budgets, deadlines. About being indocrinated by the rEApers. Your artistic integrity is long gone, and so is my support for you work. I will not pre-order your products any more, nor will I buy another Bioware product at full retail prize. I will boycott your new releases actively and encourage others to do so aswell.

The fanbase has been very reasonable and has given you a fair chance to mend things, and this is how you reply? Fool me once, shame on you. But don't think you get a second chance to fool me.

I'm done.

P.S. Thank you for BGI & II and for your contribution on PS: Torment - the greatest game of all time. You had an integral part in revolutionizing RPGs, and I'll never forget the days I bought BG and Torment - two amazing days. Now it's clear your time has passed and like most things before dying of old age, you pooped your pants aswell. Very few get to pass away with their digniy intact, neither did you.

[N7Gold]

They seem to love the term "artistic integrity"... I sense a lot of arrogance in it.

[Frosteeze]

darknessmyown wrote...

I remain HIGHLY skeptical, this says they still think the endings they gave are good for some rather bizarre reason. I am not looking for more views and close ups of a horrible ending, I am looking for a good ending lacking in plots holes and a number of other issues.

The endings now come in cyan, sepia, and tickle-me-pink. *nods*

Oh god please don't let my comment come true...

[nevar00]

Sphynxian wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

I'm also wondering why I should care about Omega (which is so obviously going to be a DLC) when the entire Omega system is destroyed in the aftermath of a demolished mass relay. I mean if flying a meteor into one was enough to destroy an entire star system, than what the crucible did couldn't possibly be any better...

No it wasn't, the relays going off were "controlled".


...Omega gets to starve to death instead now that there will be no supply ships reaching it anytime soon.

It's highly likely that you're correct, but I can't seem to recall where it was stated that the destruction of the relays using the catalyst was "controlled." The blast waves and destruction seen looked like they were not controlled at all.

Honestly I was just kidding with my response, and was pointing out that Omega was screwed regardless, but even so I agree.  It is possible and even likely that the relays were "controlled"... except that every piece of information in the game including the final cutscene would imply otherwise, and we have no reason or information to believe that the explosions were controlled.  

[The Divine Avenger]

Zuka999 wrote...

Asepsis wrote...

I...can't even...breath...

I will try and control myself and reserve judgment until summer, but I seriously cannot fathom how the starchild conversation will ever make sense, EVER, in the ME universe.

It wont. Its time to put the games away forever.

we need to stick together, we are getting through, there hoping this will shut us up because of the impact are movment is having on the gaming community as a whole.

near enough every major player in the idustry is talking about us, so it's bound to be making them nearvous. Everyday more & more people flock to are cause.
 
We need to stick together & we'll win, it's been done before so please my fellow soldiers don't give up just yet

HOLD THE LINE

Modifié par The Divine Avenger, 05 avril 2012 - 10:48 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

guess they just said F GOTY or any chance to pull it out of the crapper with a decent ending

[Spectre Impersonator]

Velocithon wrote...

Matt561 wrote...

This still doesn't justify them lying in the interviews.

This is a huge part why Bioware's rep still takes a hit with me. They can do whatever with the endings.

Fact remains they lied on so many occassions about this game and they've never acknowledged nor apologized for it.

For me they still have the chance to rectify their mistakes by simply giving us what they directly promised but they don't seem to want our continued support as fans.

[nevar00]

AkeasharK wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Please don't compare Starkid to a Chekhov's gun.  That would imply Starchild had been illuded to with any of the games and not just thrown into the last 5 minutes with no introduction at all.

You clearly haven't been paying attention, since theres been threads about mentions of something above the Reapers controlling the pattern since ME1, and being outright told it earliar in ME3. Haven't it being in the centre of the pattern, the Citadel, make sense.

Do you have any links?  I hope you aren't referring to that idea that having a vague reference to some light creatures on a description of a random side planet in Mass Effect 1 is a valid explanation.  

[iiTzCyAniiDe]

AkeasharK wrote... 

Obsidian has relased some of the worst RPGs I've ever played. KotOR 2 chief among them.

   
did you play it with the restored content? it was amazing, its only got so many flaws because it was pushed for an early release (like ME3) yet despite that still maintains a logical and understandabl storyline and ending. 

AkeasharK wrote...  
Blizzard is releasing StarCraft 2 as three full priced games. That would be the equivalent of getting to the end of Mass Effect 3 and them going 'Oh yeah, part two of that will be out in a year or two, and cost the same amount'

 

Ever played SC2, i have had it since the release day, and i still play it today, there's a reason they split it into 3 games, not because of the money - because they take the time to make their games and make them to a 100% professional standard, SC2 took 10 years to make becuase they wanted it to be right, you wanted it to be another 20 for the extra addons the other games will have? 

[MassEffect762]

It's not they don't understand, it's that EA($$$) controls them and figures Fifa and TOR will keep them going.

In other words they don't care about ME or you for that matter.

[shepskisaac]

AkeasharK wrote...

Obsidian has relased some of the grestest RPGs I've ever played. KotOR 2 chief among them.

Fixed that for you.

[Sphynxian]

nevar00 wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

I'm also wondering why I should care about Omega (which is so obviously going to be a DLC) when the entire Omega system is destroyed in the aftermath of a demolished mass relay. I mean if flying a meteor into one was enough to destroy an entire star system, than what the crucible did couldn't possibly be any better...

No it wasn't, the relays going off were "controlled".


...Omega gets to starve to death instead now that there will be no supply ships reaching it anytime soon.

It's highly likely that you're correct, but I can't seem to recall where it was stated that the destruction of the relays using the catalyst was "controlled." The blast waves and destruction seen looked like they were not controlled at all.

Honestly I was just kidding with my response, and was pointing out that Omega was screwed regardless, but even so I agree.  It is possible and even likely that the relays were "controlled"... except that every piece of information in the game including the final cutscene would imply otherwise, and we have no reason or information to believe that the explosions were controlled.  

That's a relief! I was worried I missed something in the endings. I really, up until the final few minutes of the game, was excited about the prospect of an Omega mission, too. Maybe even adding Aria as a temporary party member ala' Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Instead I can't find myself to care about the universe much. :<

[NvVanity]

TJWWE2007 wrote...

tybbiesniffer wrote...

I cheered out loud when I read the announcement. I'd actually be satisfied with clarification and closure. Maybe I'm the only one.

It comes down to, "Will it be enough?" 

So many people want LI closure and to see the galaxy adapt to your decisions, but with Shepard dead in many playthroughs, and the relays destroyed in most playthroughs, none of that can really be achieved.

My guess is.

• They'll explain how FTL travel will be done w/o Relays. Not sure how, probably something along the lines of getting it from the remains of blown up Reapers.
• Explain what Squadmates, Love Interest and Normandy Crew did afterwards whether thats getting off that planet or it turns out to be significant somehow.
• Explain what all the different races did afterwards depending on your choices. Quarians rebuild Rannoch, Krogan spread out beyond Tuchanka with Genophage cured, Rachni (if alive) join society, etc.
• Closure for former squadmates, significant characters and minor ones we love or interacted with a lot.
• Subliminal DLC advertisement
• What happened to people who got screwed over. Cerberus in shambles, Asari government being hated for not sharing Beacons, etc.
• State of the galaxy in the future when we see the Stargazer. Galactic peace? Something else? 

[Dandynermite]

MassEffect762 wrote...

It's not they don't understand, it's that EA($$$) controls them and figures Fifa and TOR will keep them going.

In other words they don't care about ME or you for that matter.

Don't blame EA. Bioware lied and screwed us over, not EA. If you buy lemonade from a kid at at stall and it tastes of **** you really going to hunt down his mom for giving him the ingrediants? 

No, precisely. 

Bioware made the ****ty endings, not EA, EA game them a timescale and the budget, they blew it buy made a plot centric day one dlc and wrecked the endings. 

[BurnOutBrighter]

N7Gold wrote...

They seem to love the term "artistic integrity"... I sense a lot of arrogance in it.

Agreed. There isn't any artistic integrity in that ending, and if BioWare had any, they'd remake the ending so it was actually artistically appropriate for the series.